divisions + khabarovsk+horrible matchmaking destroy balance.This needs fixing..

[Grumpy_Shark]

One picture = 1000 words. 

*edited*

 

[WingedHussar_Adler]

mate it is not the ship it is the player :)

[kfa]

1700 base xp khaba?

 

NEVER SEEN THAT MUCH

 

NERF

 

PLS

[KaraMon]

362 xp is made by presing W 4 times and doing 10k dmg to a DD , so you didn't do anything whole battle and you complain about division? :D

[Grumpy_Shark]

Team B has 3 players rank1 together in division. Team A has no division. 
And as this was not enough the team B has 3 extra rank1 players. Team A has only 1 ranked1 playeream
So team B has 6 rank1 players in total. While the other has only 1 rank1 player.
3 of them rank1 together in a division PLUS one of them in Khabarovsk... (goodluck hiting the rank1 player into the Khabarovsk... ) .  

[RobS80]

A picture does not in fact paint as many words as you thought.

 

My guess is your surviving Yamato was max range and your dead one YOLO'd. Your Gearing looks to have played well. Your Zao looks like he made some life choice errors. Not a lot to do with Khaba or divisions or MM tbh.

 

Tier 9 radar cruiser that low down the list is an issue though.

 

EDIT - MM is not skill based and you don't want it to be, trust me. Rank one isnt always a guarantee of player skill either. I have seen many many poor players who have rank one. Just that it took them 1000 games in a season to finally hit it.

[KaraMon]

So your point is ?

 

If we remove that Khabarowsk your team could win?

[mtm78]

He is crying complaining in other topics that WG should remove divisions because they are unfair. He just has no friends to play with so he thinks that WG will remove the incentive of lots of others to PAY for this game's development and remove the ability to play with friends, just because some potato blames his lacking performance on divisions.

 

The valid part, not present in this thread yet so it might not actually be something he finds actually important, is that MM should better balance divisions if possible ( WG already said they would like to, maximum difference should be 1 division ), but more so roles / types of ships. It's more an issue that one team get's a lot of radar and the other team none, or one team has severe advantage in stealthy destroyers. That causes much more variance in outcome as divisions. 

 

 

 

 

[Capra76]

6 minutes ago, RobS80 said:

Your Gearing looks to have played well.

 

Looks like the Gearing sank an AFK Fletcher, which may explain how the game went.

[Hugh_Ruka]

3 minutes ago, mtm78 said:

He is crying complaining in other topics that WG should remove divisions because they are unfair. He just has no friends to play with so he thinks that WG will remove the incentive of lots of others to PAY for this game's development and remove the ability to play with friends, just because some potato blames his lacking performance on divisions.

 

The valid part, not present in this thread yet so it might not actually be something he finds actually important, is that MM should better balance divisions if possible ( WG already said they would like to, maximum difference should be 1 division ), but more so roles / types of ships. It's more an issue that one team get's a lot of radar and the other team none, or one team has severe advantage in stealthy destroyers. That causes much more variance in outcome as divisions. 

 

 

 

 

Since divisions can be formed after MM did the work, there is no way to balance that ... also Divs do not cover out of game comms, so that cannot be balanced either ...

 

I do not see a problem with the screenshot ... been on both sides frequently ....

[mtm78]

Those divisions are exempt from the 1 max difference rule, off course. I agree I don't have an issue with divisions, not at all. I do with MM not balancing ships based on roles instead of classes as the game has clearly outgrown this limited four class principle. 

[Grumpy_Shark]

31 minutes ago, KaraMon said:

362 xp is made by presing W 4 times and doing 10k dmg to a DD , so you didn't do anything whole battle and you complain about division? :D

Forget me for a moment here , i may had a bad match , I also stuck at edge of screen. I mean does this line up seem ok to you? one team 6 rank1 other only 1 ranked1 , THAT ALONE IS HUGE. Plus division plus the 3 rank1 in division. You play it blind but it's not gonna work. The screenshot speaks for itself. As for the destroyers they chickened didn't go for the objectives,2 areas on the north remain uncontested noone went the dds sat there , they were next to them but noone would go cap them, i could not hit the khabarovsk everyone was shooting it, could not hit it, it had to go down but... crap... then they killed some of our ships so the match was pretty much over... they had big point difference so THEN i  yoloed to just try to kill that [edited] in Khabarovsk. At that point nothing else seemed of importance anyway. But this game doesnt reward the people that try to play for the team but the people that play for their ego.And that is bad mentality. (I knew i would do crap dps but i kept firing at Khabarovsk at least to distract it a bit so that it is not left unbothered. I have hit in the past other Khabarovsks but in other ships. With Baltimore somehow the salvos don't go where i excpect.) I have the video you can open it with World of Warship.exe , Its the map ice islands. 

20170823_204740_PASC017-Baltimore-1944_18_NE_ice_islands.wowsreplay

[RobS80]

14 minutes ago, Capra76 said:

 

Looks like the Gearing sank an AFK Fletcher, which may explain how the game went.

 

Haha yes indeed. Did not see that. I only meant since he was top XP he may have capped more etc, but its likely one full HP kill of the DD gave him all that XP.

[22cm]

12 minutes ago, mtm78 said:

1. He is crying complaining in other topics that WG should remove divisions because they are unfair.

 

2. He just has no friends to play with

 

 

1. No, but MM should balance divisions. I know unicum players that play only in divisions, not to endanger their precious stats. A full 3 man clan division of good players, top tier and talking in real time in game chat should be balanced only by a division of the same kind, because they will easily dominate the game. In case the division includes a carrier, it is almost impossible to counter.

 

2. Typical excuse of the division-only unicums when I make fun of them they don t have the balls to play solo.

[mtm78]

25 minutes ago, 22cm said:

 

1. No, but MM should balance divisions. I know unicum players that play only in divisions, not to endanger their precious stats. A full 3 man clan division of good players, top tier and talking in real time in game chat should be balanced only by a division of the same kind, because they will easily dominate the game. In case the division includes a carrier, it is almost impossible to counter.

 

2. Typical excuse of the division-only unicums when I make fun of them they don t have the balls to play solo.

 

1>  I just said the exact same, well except for asking for SBMM as that would be stupid to even bring up. 

 

2> Most people don't only play in divisions, but yeah there are some who only play in divisions.

 

<sarcasm>

I mean look at @_FTD_he's a filthy low bob solo player only getting carried in divisions   

</sarcasm>

 

Wait, you make fun of them? why? You think they really need divisions to carry them in randoms to get good results? Also you do know WG has made it easy to actually filter on division and solo games, so crying about it just makes you look more obsessed with those performing better. 

 

I am pretty sure _FTD_ for instance is a better player as you, even if his solo stats are not good and he only plays divisions now.

[22cm]

1 minute ago, mtm78 said:

<sarcasm>

I mean look at @_FTD_he's a filthy low bob solo player only getting carried in divisions   

</sarcasm>

 

Wait, you make fun of them? why? You think they really need divisions to carry them in randoms to get good results? Also you do know WG has made it easy to actually filter on division and solo games, so crying about it just makes you look more obsessed with those performing better. 

 

I am pretty sure _FTD_ for instance is a better player as you, even if his solo stats are not good and he only plays divisions now.

 

Funny you mention him, I remember from quite a time ago when I had acces to his clan chat, he would just wait there until he had a division to play with. Not joking.

[aboomination]

Mi? MiMi?

[mtm78]

5 minutes ago, 22cm said:

Funny you mention him, I remember from quite a time ago when I had acces to his clan chat, he would just wait there until he had a division to play with. Not joking.

 

Seems common knowledge he only plays divisions now, and you're the one bringing up 'division only unicums' so it's easy to use him as ( extreme ) example   

Ofc, there are also 50-55% solo players which are only unicum in division win rate, but as I said it's entirely pointless to even bring it up as it's not something people can even hide from others ( well you can make your profile private, but if you want to 'brag' about being unicum you usually don't do that ).

 

So I just don't get why you made that post ;) 

 

[22cm]

Just now, mtm78 said:

 

Seems common knowledge he only plays divisions now, and you're the one bringing up 'division only unicums' so it's easy to use him as ( extreme ) example   

Ofc, there are also 50-55% solo players which are only unicum in division win rate, but as I said it's entirely pointless to even bring it up as it's not something people can even hide from others ( well you can make your profile private, but if you want to 'brag' about being unicum you usually don't do that ).

 

So I just don't get why you made that post ;) 

 

 

He had this habit from long ago, not only now, and you brought him up, not me?!

 

 

[mtm78]

You began about your division only unicums and how you make fun of them, not me  Stop being a smartass :P

[lameoll]

so u got a division against u who knew the mechanics of the game? holy crap  those are a rare sight.

[22cm]

2 minutes ago, mtm78 said:

You began about your division only unicums and how you make fun of them, not me  Stop being a smartass :P

 

Yes, I have noticed a few I meet only in divisions, and sometime I make fun of them, especially when is a full 3 man division with a carrier.

[waxx25]

you are brave OP. I would never post a pic like that showing me play that bad.

[Tekacko]

Last time I got 362 xp was when I got detonated in my Erie

[Grumpy_Shark]

1 hour ago, waxx25 said:

you are brave OP. I would never post a pic like that showing me play that bad.

Hey i even posted the video of that crappy performance, I wasn't trying to say that it was a misfortune i lost. I played bad. But if you would see how in general the match went you would realise how totaly overwhelming force is to have 3 rank1's in a division one of them in Khabarovsk(quite broken ship but everyone likes to throw stones at Belfast) + 6 rank1's on enemy team -only 1 rank1 to our's, so its the combination of all these that leads to that. And ofc i can show you games i did well. (i have even videos)  That was not one of those.  In internet people try tp push a fake image about themselves. I don't i know its a surprise but this is who i am. I show the good and the bad.