Nelson - passive gameplay and camping intensifies!!

[G01ngToxicCommand0]

If you have been waiting for a battleship that would break the passive camping meta....be prepared to...keep on waiting!

 

Do not waste XP on Nelson.

-She is far too weak and eat citadels from the all across the frontal arc due to nothing between the citadel and bow is 25mm plates.

-She has no armoured strake, like the Hood has, that allows for angling to be a viable tactic meaning that she can only engage other battleships from either behind islands or from within smoke.

-She can't defend herself against any kind of strike aircraft as a combination of weak AA defence, high rudder time and atrocious turning radius and rate of turn means she can not evade attacks even when the evasive maneuvres are done as supposed to.

-Does not have any kind of early warning against incoming torpedos which combined with slow rudder and bad turning abilities ensures you eat loads of non repairable damage and flooding.

-Because of armour and citadel profile the ship eats a lot of non repairable damage making the zombie heal only a strong ability only in name.

Yes the HE shells is a solid damage dealer but that does not make up for this turd of a ship's shortcomings.

The overall impression of the Nelson is almost as it was deliberately made weak and vulnerable in order to increase the amount of the camping and passive gameplay meta as this ship can not push against anything like a BB is supposed to but can only perform as a supporting HE spamming cruiser.

Will lose a one on one against the Dunkerque almost every time.

 

Will have to call this ship click bait as it is the worst tier 7 BB.

Can only recommend against spending 375k free XP on this turd - save them for the Missouri instead.

Research and buy only for collection and historical purposes only.

[RAHJAILARI]

Hmmh... Oh well, lucky that I brought some Wieners then...

[allufewig]

Don't you think that after just 7 games, it is a little bit too early to judge the ship?

[Exocet6951]

In short, she's what a BB is supposed to be: weak against torpedoes and without proper AA cover, and will get citpenned if you don't angle correctly.

Obviously we can't have that.
Balanced BB.
What WILL they think of next?
I mean, next thing you know, they'll have people asking for DDs not to get nuked by AP shells and for tier8 cruisers to get a heal.

[ColonelPete]

Other people have a complete different opinion.

As the Dunk works for me even with paper armor,  I am quite sure the Nelson will work for me too.

[Exocet6951]

double post, silly forum

[Verdius]

45 minutes ago, Exocet6951 said:

In short, she's what a BB is supposed to be: weak against torpedoes and without proper AA cover, and will get citpenned if you don't angle correctly.

Obviously we can't have that.
Balanced BB.
What WILL they think of next?
I mean, next thing you know, they'll have people asking for DDs not to get nuked by AP shells and for tier8 cruisers to get a heal.

 

Obviously 25mm bow armour is terrible. Every other T7 BB has it but Nelson needs better because reasons.

And she needs god tier AA because otherwise it is trash. Unless it is completely idiot proof and impervious to damage it is immediatly a horrible ship. I mean people have only played like 10 games in it max but we already have such well thought out criticism like:

1 hour ago, atomskytten said:

The overall impression of the Nelson is almost as it was deliberately made weak and vulnerable in order to increase the amount of the camping and passive gameplay meta as this ship can not push against anything like a BB is supposed to but can only perform as a supporting HE spamming cruiser.

 

And people wonder why powercreep happens and OP crap like Belfast gets released and idiotic changes like the USN citadel near removal happens?

 

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 high rudder time and atrocious turning radius and rate of turn means she can not evade attacks even when the evasive maneuvres are done as supposed to

 

She has better turning circle and rudder shift than Nagato. She also has more firepower located in a better setup that allows her to easily switch targets with all 9 guns and has better angles with those turrets as well. Oh and she has way better concealment and mega heal as well.

But obviously she would be crap if she has the same bow armour as Nagato or Colorado. Why would you be allowed to overmatch their bows but they are not allowed to overmatch yours?

But sure lets make her impervious to Nagato, Colorado, etc from the front as well because sitting bow on and reversing is so much better for the meta and somehow is not considered passive. And of course this shouldn't be punishable by carriers so lets give her massive AA as well.

[philjd]

4 minutes ago, Verdius said:

 and OP crap like Belfast gets released 

1) an OP Belfast was to try and make up for the sh@tstorm that WG knew would happen when they released the RN cruisers.... :

2) Or to defuse the 'WG hates the Brits and everything they did' crew 

 

Take your pick :)

 

I'll get my Nelson when I get home tonight.

[Drake847]

I can t complain about the Nelson  . Sure she is weak under the 2nd turret but Show me a T7 ship that is not weak there . She is not a brawler for sure  .I like it cant complain so far if you know what your doing she is nice . Just use the stuff she is strong in . Burning other BBs  46% base fire Chance yay . But i must agree to what Verdius said . Players are spoiled . Most of them want the <idiot proof i own you all ship> for some wierd reason cause thier Ego cant handle anything else .

[Corvi]

47 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

Other people have a complete different opinion.

As the Dunk works for me even with paper armor,  I am quite sure the Nelson will work for me too.

 

Dunkek has quite a lot better armor than Nelson thou ..

[G01ngToxicCommand0]

1 hour ago, allufewig said:

Don't you think that after just 7 games, it is a little bit too early to judge the ship?

No, you only need 1 game to become aware of its shortcomings.

[ColonelPete]

10 minutes ago, Corvi said:

 

Dunkek has quite a lot better armor than Nelson thou ..

In what way? Cannot see an advantage for Dunk.

[aboomination]

 

[SgtToad]

17 minutes ago, aboomination said:

 

the problem is the gimmick heal is balanced by having terrible AP, on a BB, and being extremely squishy - the ship plays like a large, slow cruiser.

[Exocet6951]

31 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

In what way? Cannot see an advantage for Dunk.

 

In all fairness, the Dunkek has all those nice trollish features like compound armor and turtleback, so while the belt is thinner and that works in its disfavor against more accurate, large caliber gun, at tier6 it's fairly damn reliable.

[ilhilh]

58 minutes ago, atomskytten said:

No, you only need 1 game to become aware of its shortcomings.

You pretty much only need to pick one of your posts to learn of your shortcomings...

[Venatacia]

Don't think the camping will ever change. People have not got the confidence to push because they have been screwed over so many times in the past by the random teams not helping or just not a good player in general. Or they just sit back and look after themselves trying to get as much damage as they can. You see the same thing happen in WoT. Just had a battle 2 mins ago with 4 BBs including the Nelson sitting behind islands, we lost as normal. One battle today and I have already had enough. You get the excitement to come on and have some fun battles but time after time you just end up going away disappointed.

[Shirakami_Kon]

56 minutes ago, aboomination said:

 

 

Just wait for the T10 RN BB with the same heal. 

[Darth_Glorious]

It is an area denial BB like Dunkerque so you have to pick your position carefully.

[Gojuadorai]

2 hours ago, atomskytten said:

Will have to call this ship click bait as it is the worst tier 7 BB.

 

 

only thing i agree upon is get the missouri first

 

PS.: can someone pm me and tell me how the hell you put embedet vids in this forum I tried all the things I could find an googel couldn't help either

PPS.: ok got it... well thats kinda wiered that you can do that with youtube but for ordinary links you have to go through a dialog...

[Miessa3]

2 minutes ago, Gojuadorai said:

 

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only thing i agree upon is get the missouri first

 

PS.: can someone pm me and tell me how the hell you put embedet vids in this forum I tried all the things I could find an googel couldn't help either

Just copy the link in the textbox and the forum does the rest.

 

[ImperialAdmiral]

I won't buy her mostly because one thing.

 

She is ugly as hell 

[Ferry_25]

I'm at 320 free XP now. So not enough yet. That's ok. I'll follow the feedback here and I'll wait for the "hey, a new ship. Let's troll focus it because of that" effect wears off.

[G01ngToxicCommand0]

1 hour ago, ilhilh said:

You pretty much only need to pick one of your posts to learn of your shortcomings...

And I only need one of your comments to know that you only post to troll and make topics toxic. Fair enough though, trolling is fun.

[WingedHussar_Adler]

3 hours ago, atomskytten said:

If you have been waiting for a battleship that would break the passive camping meta....be prepared to...keep on waiting!

 

Do not waste XP on Nelson.

-She is far too weak and eat citadels from the all across the frontal arc due to nothing between the citadel and bow is 25mm plates.

-She has no armoured strake, like the Hood has, that allows for angling to be a viable tactic meaning that she can only engage other battleships from either behind islands or from within smoke.

-She can't defend herself against any kind of strike aircraft as a combination of weak AA defence, high rudder time and atrocious turning radius and rate of turn means she can not evade attacks even when the evasive maneuvres are done as supposed to.

-Does not have any kind of early warning against incoming torpedos which combined with slow rudder and bad turning abilities ensures you eat loads of non repairable damage and flooding.

-Because of armour and citadel profile the ship eats a lot of non repairable damage making the zombie heal only a strong ability only in name.

Yes the HE shells is a solid damage dealer but that does not make up for this turd of a ship's shortcomings.

The overall impression of the Nelson is almost as it was deliberately made weak and vulnerable in order to increase the amount of the camping and passive gameplay meta as this ship can not push against anything like a BB is supposed to but can only perform as a supporting HE spamming cruiser.

Will lose a one on one against the Dunkerque almost every time.

 

Will have to call this ship click bait as it is the worst tier 7 BB.

Can only recommend against spending 375k free XP on this turd - save them for the Missouri instead.

Research and buy only for collection and historical purposes only.

Nooo....i am shocked.....they create line that ends with 30 km 69%fireschance HE spamers BBs and camping increase....HOW HOW??? NOOOO....