0.6.10 Public Test 0.6.10 General Feedback

[Kandly]

Captains,

 

Please share all general feedback regarding Public Test 0.6.10 below in this topic.

 

Consult the full list for other types of feedback:

Public Test 0.6.10 - Sound Improvements

Public Test 0.6.10 - New Effects

Public Test 0.6.10 - Interface

Public Test 0.6.10 - Technical Updates

Public Test 0.6.10 - Bug Reports

 

Cheers,

Kandly 

[humpty_1]

i've tried downloading and installing 3 times now 36 gb... now my isp is throttling my bandwidth..lol. maybe next time i try it will work, but will be in a day or two.. :)

[_DemonGuard_]

I think being able to get a sneek peek on an upcoming ship like the Lion or to try out premium ships like the Atago or Tirpitz is a nice incentive to play on the PTS. Hopefully you can do these kind of missions more often in future PTS sessions.

[Uriens_The_Gray]

U need 4000 XP to research a ship. That differs from previous public tests. Intended ?

[TheBigLanowski]

Don't know there else to put this... so here we go:

 

About the Lion... this ship definitely is OP! It has to much of everything! I started a fire on an Izumo with every volley I hit! First 3 volleys on different battleships started a double fire! The firechance is ridiculous. 

If it had some drawbacks maybe but it doesn't have them! It got super heal, that heals about what? 35k in 10 seconds? So the low HP pool is no argument at all! That ship is almost imune to fires! Because you can just rep the dmg out. The AP is strong enough to punish every broadside ship with ease and if something angles you got the napalm flavoured HE shells... but that is not enough, no they also have a concealment that is better then on most of the cruisers of the same tier!! These ships (if they are all as strong as the Lion) definitely need a rework for the sake of balance! Otherwise I will sail nothing else than these ships any more unless I get bored of them. Then I will most likely play something else.

Hope your server stats will show you that a nerf is needed... From what I have experienced the Lion is just OP since it is easy the strongest T9 BB and we all know in what state BBs are right now.

 

Edit: Oh yeah, completely forgot about that citadel and that these ships are immune to them from mid to close range! They are also fast and quite manoeuvrable... nuff said

[TheCinC]

Just played a few battles on the PTS and just wanted to say:

 

Thanks for allowing us the chance to evaluate a new ship before it becomes available (Lion) and for allowing access to premium ships (Atago and Tirpitz) that some people might not have.

Both things I've asked for many times and should be done more often, so I hope this will turn out to be a success.

[bigbramble]

I have had a few matches in the Lion. Sure it's decent but I don't think it is any stronger than Iowa as is. The dispersion seems crappy and you take insane penetration damage. For a non-unicum player like me I don't see what all the fuss is about. Sure the heal is big but when you are focused hard the heal becomes meaningless as you will only get one off before getting wrecked. Guns are knocked out all of the time too. Good ship, not op to me.

[Philipp_ab_exterminatore]

Was hoping the full British battleship line was on but im still looking forward to getting lion after some sleep 

[Kandly]

We're currently working on solving the endless login and crashes on launch.

 

While the integrity check can fix the endless login problem, I recommend deleting the PT build entirely and installing it again if you're encountering crashes. This should help until we come up with a fix.

[OldschoolGaming_YouTube]

15 hours ago, TheCinC said:

Just played a few battles on the PTS and just wanted to say:

 

Thanks for allowing us the chance to evaluate a new ship before it becomes available (Lion) and for allowing access to premium ships (Atago and Tirpitz) that some people might not have.

Both things I've asked for many times and should be done more often, so I hope this will turn out to be a success.

I want to second this post. Really great that you give us mortals a chance to try out a ship in the new line and also great to give players a chance to try out Premium ship. Why haven't this been done before? I come from a sales background and this is of course a great way to sell a product, in this case premium ships. If i was you're chief of sales i would demand that you put in atleast 3-4 different Premiums to be unlocked in each Test server in the future, and just see you're sales sky rocket!

 

I i need to nitpick i dont like that the Test server client starts in Russian, i always have a facepalm moment every time i install the test server before i get to change the language. Maybe a combined russian/english button? 

 

Still waiting for a fix so i can bind my most favourite keybind in the game again, the "Follow shell/torpedo" function? Any reports on that problem?

[atogamer]

i realy think hms lion needs a nerf becose she has better concealment then some cruisers has good guns good aa op heal and op he. if wargaming nerfes the heal the ship will be good or if they nerf the rest it will be good to. but i would prefer to see a nerf to the heal becose now the lion and conquerer are just zombies. i dont understand this is even considered to be realesed

[Vinyl_ScratchPlays]

So i dont have the Lion yet but ive faced them a lot.

What do i find out? You can citadel them but its very hard you need to do plunging fire to do it.

They are also very bad at being close range, and being grouped up with lots of  fire.

To be honest it's not that OP, but if a change was to be made make the heal a bit less as it does heal a bit to much, but considering that we are not seeing tier 10 ships we dont know for sure how OP it is or how bad it is

 

[rnat]

22 hours ago, 0BlackSkull0 said:

Don't know there else to put this... so here we go:

 

About the Lion... this ship definitely is OP! It has to much of everything! I started a fire on an Izumo with every volley I hit! First 3 volleys on different battleships started a double fire! The firechance is ridiculous. 

If it had some drawbacks maybe but it doesn't have them! It got super heal, that heals about what? 35k in 10 seconds? So the low HP pool is no argument at all! That ship is almost imune to fires! Because you can just rep the dmg out. The AP is strong enough to punish every broadside ship with ease and if something angles you got the napalm flavoured HE shells... but that is not enough, no they also have a concealment that is better then on most of the cruisers of the same tier!! These ships (if they are all as strong as the Lion) definitely need a rework for the sake of balance! Otherwise I will sail nothing else than these ships any more unless I get bored of them. Then I will most likely play something else.

Hope your server stats will show you that a nerf is needed... From what I have experienced the Lion is just OP since it is easy the strongest T9 BB and we all know in what state BBs are right now.

 

Edit: Oh yeah, completely forgot about that citadel and that these ships are immune to them from mid to close range! They are also fast and quite manoeuvrable... nuff said

This.

 

The heal+concealment already counteract the low HP-pool, add in the good HE and AP and it's quite a versatile ship.

This would be fine. But the citadel makes it way too forgiving imo.

It makes it superior in a brawl to pretty much anything that's not german, the one line that specializes in brawling.

The concealment mostly denies HE-spam as an effective counter (though the armor is weak against it)

and makes it hard for dds, since you can pretty much always tell when one is nearby (you're spotted).

And with the good AA cvs aren't a natural counter either (given how rare they are in high tier that wouldn't be enought anyway)

Doesn't even have to be raised much, just enough for bbs to reliably punish them with citadels for mis-positioning and risky turns.

We already have Bismarcks getting away with terrible play (still doing bad, but staying alive) another line like that would be a bad design imo.

[TattooedAF]

On 8/17/2017 at 10:35 PM, 0BlackSkull0 said:

Don't know there else to put this... so here we go:

 

About the Lion... this ship definitely is OP! It has to much of everything! I started a fire on an Izumo with every volley I hit! First 3 volleys on different battleships started a double fire! The firechance is ridiculous. 

If it had some drawbacks maybe but it doesn't have them! It got super heal, that heals about what? 35k in 10 seconds? So the low HP pool is no argument at all! That ship is almost imune to fires! Because you can just rep the dmg out. The AP is strong enough to punish every broadside ship with ease and if something angles you got the napalm flavoured HE shells... but that is not enough, no they also have a concealment that is better then on most of the cruisers of the same tier!! These ships (if they are all as strong as the Lion) definitely need a rework for the sake of balance! Otherwise I will sail nothing else than these ships any more unless I get bored of them. Then I will most likely play something else.

Hope your server stats will show you that a nerf is needed... From what I have experienced the Lion is just OP since it is easy the strongest T9 BB and we all know in what state BBs are right now.

 

Edit: Oh yeah, completely forgot about that citadel and that these ships are immune to them from mid to close range! They are also fast and quite manoeuvrable... nuff said

Lion is kinnda BB Zao

it IS OP!!!

[KaraMon]

19 hours ago, bigbramble said:

I have had a few matches in the Lion. Sure it's decent but I don't think it is any stronger than Iowa as is. The dispersion seems crappy and you take insane penetration damage. For a non-unicum player like me I don't see what all the fuss is about.

 

You will see when you will get burned by one of those doing zero to no damage in your mighty Iowa

[TheCinC]

HMS Lion is playable.

Even if I don't like the need to basically use HE, as if we didn't have enough HE spam before, nor do I like the optional 419 mm guns, other than that, can't really complain.

She looks great, that's for sure.

Can't wait for KGV, no matter how she performs.

[OldschoolGaming_YouTube]

Did you change anything specific in the new Update?!

[Spunyarn]

Lion thoughts:

Not setting as many fires as Jingles or as it seems people here are managing, but the HE does seem more useful than on other battleships.

 

Feels like I have to swing the rear of the ship out quite a lot to get the rear-turret to bear, so people do get a better shot at my side.

 

Citadel seems fine; looks about as low in the water as other battleships I checked (or as the Iowa and Montana after those were lowered).

 

Enjoy having a Minotaur/Neptune like heal on something less squishy, agree that if people focus their fire (like they seem to do on my poor Minnie) the heal can be overwhelmed, but also agree that it is too good. Had some games in the Lion where it just felt silly, that I should be more worried about having taken that much damage. With Minotaur/Neptune there is more feeling of urgency to triggering the heal and trying to get some health back before the next salvo and with other battleships it can be quite satisfying to manage to recover from (or at least survive) some horrible hits early on. With the Lion you'd be have to be very close to dead to not be able to take a few hits while starting to heal and you've recovered at once, rather than having to work for it more.

 

Simplest suggestion for the heal would be to reduce effect to 3/4 or even 2/3, as 3/4 would not be much of an effective reduction (the 1/4 lost would already be partially lost every time someone had a few seconds of healing left over). Other ideas would be to mess with the rate or duration or number of uses. If it healed half as fast for twice as long (for the same total effect) then it would be easier for the incoming fire to outpace the healing. Or if you had a more normal heal (say half the effect) but more charges and a faster reload then you'd still heal a significant amount, but they'd have a chance to finish you before you could heal some more. Though I can see some advantages to a longer less intense heal or more-but-smaller heals, so total effect would have to be reduced as well. Probably best to just tweak one number down rather than messing about. 

[Hades_warrior]

What a heck is wrong with current PTS? Its the third day of PTS, and im stil unable to open game without problem.

Every time I start this PTS 0.6.10 my port is loading ships in infinite, and all tasks and missions are ''blind''. I try to exit game but menu is not responding -.- .. then I try to force game shut down via Windows Task Manager but WTM wont appear since my PC has stuck in the black screen, so I had to restart my PC manualy.

Anyone else have this annoying problems?

[Blakk76]

please.... change British BB`s fire settings, it`s laughable, Lion seems to be made of hay, with sailors washing deck in diesel fuel every 5 minutes...

[AlwaysBadLuckWithTeams]

Funny, just a few minutes ago, you announced 0.6.10 ptr round 2. However, I already have the rewards for that phase. :-)

 

 

P.S.: I know what's wrong. But I thought I let you figure it our yourselves. And I bet this will come back to haunt me for the real rewards when "we are sorry, but according to our database, you already received the rewards". Pretty much the same trouble I had with you one year ago. And no, I still haven't gotten the 20*100% camos I had earnt back then.

[Parkerzilla]

Tinfoil Hats On -  Just noticed that on the current test server we have been given every Tier 5 tech tree ship, except for the Bogue which is absent. Just an ommission or are the USN CVs withdrawn to be sprung upon us in revamped form in the patch? :) Or am I just in a state of wishful thinking! 

[Takru]

21 hours ago, Parkerzilla said:

Tinfoil Hats On -  Just noticed that on the current test server we have been given every Tier 5 tech tree ship, except for the Bogue which is absent. Just an ommission or are the USN CVs withdrawn to be sprung upon us in revamped form in the patch? :) Or am I just in a state of wishful thinking! 

 

Too early for tinfoil hats I am afraid. Just logged in to PT and set the filter to T5 to finde all the suspects present and accounted for:

[Parkerzilla]

Thanks, I did that yesterday and Bogue was missing so WG must have corrected it.

[rnat]

On 24.8.2017 at 6:15 PM, Parkerzilla said:

Thanks, I did that yesterday and Bogue was missing so WG must have corrected it.

Or maybe your brain tried to spare you from seeing it ? ^^

 

At least as far as i remember, they added it seperately a day or two into the 1st stage of this test.