[BRIT6] Hans_the_Hawk [BRIT6] Beta Tester 69 posts 11,738 battles Report post #1 Posted August 11, 2017 Hi, After the new update, something is wrong with the Perth smoke, you get spotted every 9 seconds now no matter what speed you do now. please fix Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-5D-] HotshotJimmy [-5D-] Players 498 posts 5,250 battles Report post #2 Posted August 11, 2017 Moving too fast? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BYOB] Aragathor Players 7,047 posts 32,333 battles Report post #3 Posted August 11, 2017 7 minutes ago, HotshotJimmy said: Moving too fast? Not really, noticed that too when moving at 8kn. Sometimes you get spotted without rhyme or reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[IDDQD] von_chom Alpha Tester 3,465 posts 11,649 battles Report post #4 Posted August 11, 2017 if you think that there is something wrong, report it in proper topic using report template 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] __Helmut_Kohl__ Beta Tester 4,156 posts 18,919 battles Report post #5 Posted August 11, 2017 The new smoke nerf is still not live and it will be a variant of the first one, so it should not effect Perth and her marathon generator. (Which is why I bought her. ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MEN] Captain_Singleton Players 3,184 posts 20,113 battles Report post #6 Posted August 11, 2017 hmm, i'll go check... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
creamgravy Players 2,780 posts 17,292 battles Report post #7 Posted August 11, 2017 New smoke mechanics have been included in 0.6.9 but haven't been fully activated (i think) Perth has a Smoke Penalty value of 0.42 if you fire main guns (secondaries have a value of 0.0001) After a very quick test in the training room. 1. Ships are spotted for a few seconds longer after going in smoke, esp form planes 2. Perth occasionally gets spotted when firing guns in smoke. Edit. A full broadside makes you spotted for ~1 second. As a work around only shoot 1-3 turret salvos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MEN] Captain_Singleton Players 3,184 posts 20,113 battles Report post #8 Posted August 11, 2017 dunno, seems ok to me, but i hold the mouse to fire one turret after the other, rather than full salvo... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] __Helmut_Kohl__ Beta Tester 4,156 posts 18,919 battles Report post #9 Posted August 11, 2017 The new smoke mechanics are still being tested and NOT in the patch notes. It must be a bug. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MEN] Captain_Singleton Players 3,184 posts 20,113 battles Report post #10 Posted August 11, 2017 8 minutes ago, Ofenkartoffel said: It must be a bug. i just tried it's fine... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] __Helmut_Kohl__ Beta Tester 4,156 posts 18,919 battles Report post #11 Posted August 11, 2017 Do you run any mods? Maybe it is just shown wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
creamgravy Players 2,780 posts 17,292 battles Report post #12 Posted August 11, 2017 29 minutes ago, Ofenkartoffel said: The new smoke mechanics are still being tested and NOT in the patch notes. It's all under the hood changes that 'hasn't been turned on', all the new smoke penalty values can be seen at https://gamemodels3d.com/games/worldofwarships/vehicles/destroyer For most the mechanics should be no different from 0.6.7 but Perth is unique and won't have have been fully tested. 20 minutes ago, Salentine said: i just tried it's fine... You can replicate the bug in the training room. Make sure your plane spotted to remove any new smoke blob blocking LOS to a ship. I'm undetected and fire a full salvo. (enemy ship and planes are near enough to spot me) I get detected by both ship and planes in my smoke. The new blob blocks LOS to ship but I'm still plane detected. Causing me to be ship spotted too. Finally undetected after 5 seconds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[XBGX] _VAMPA_ Players 747 posts 16,618 battles Report post #13 Posted August 11, 2017 hmm just was in battle with CV and no problems Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] __Helmut_Kohl__ Beta Tester 4,156 posts 18,919 battles Report post #14 Posted August 11, 2017 Those changes are from supertest. Like you said, not activated. Perth only has a long lasting generator and short lasting smoke. I don't see where it uses a different mechanic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
creamgravy Players 2,780 posts 17,292 battles Report post #15 Posted August 11, 2017 30 minutes ago, Ofenkartoffel said: Perth only has a long lasting generator and short lasting smoke. I don't see where it uses a different mechanic. 0.6.9 added a new smoke engine with a truck load of code. It's been configured to act like 0.6.8 but there's a few differences, not just for Perth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] __Helmut_Kohl__ Beta Tester 4,156 posts 18,919 battles Report post #16 Posted August 11, 2017 Ok then, would be nice of you to report the bug. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FDUSH] Sargento_YO Players 1,476 posts 12,665 battles Report post #17 Posted August 11, 2017 4 hours ago, von_chom said: if you think that there is something wrong, report it in proper topic using report template Thats quite useless, I reported several bugs from the previous version (mostly carrier related) which in this version are still happening. They don't read that section. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[IDDQD] von_chom Alpha Tester 3,465 posts 11,649 battles Report post #18 Posted August 11, 2017 brave statement if you think something is bug doesnt necessary mean it is one actually nevertheless more feedback in bug report section would be nice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WG] Tuccy [WG] WG Staff, Alpha Tester 3,516 posts 11,627 battles Report post #19 Posted August 11, 2017 Helloes, quickly checked: It is a bug The devs are already working on solution and will deploy it when ready and tested. Sorry for the inconvenience 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BRIT6] Hans_the_Hawk [BRIT6] Beta Tester 69 posts 11,738 battles Report post #20 Posted August 12, 2017 Thanks Tuccy, It's my favourite ship, so I'm glad you are fixing it. Hans Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[COUGH] The_Tipsy Players 22 posts 17,162 battles Report post #21 Posted August 19, 2017 It is a bug. I have a 19 point skill captain on my Perth, so i have played it a lot. The smoke mechanics of the Perth are unique - lots of short duration puffs allowing you to move at quarter speed and remain undetected. 2 new issues: 1. Spotted between puffs - every few seconds. I think stationary stationary, but certainly at quarter speed - you are detected between each puff. This is new, this is real, this is a bug; and 2. The smoke counter - instead of counting down the full smoke cycle - counts down a few seconds for each puff, and then starts again. This gives you no clue as to when the smoke is going to run out, which was the whole point of the counter in the first place. I have played the Neptune and i don't think it happened with that ship - but as it only gives a few puffs, it may not have shown up the way it does with the Perth. WG - please fix! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] __Helmut_Kohl__ Beta Tester 4,156 posts 18,919 battles Report post #22 Posted August 19, 2017 37 minutes ago, The_Tipsy said: It is a bug. I have a 19 point skill captain on my Perth, so i have played it a lot. The smoke mechanics of the Perth are unique - lots of short duration puffs allowing you to move at quarter speed and remain undetected. 2 new issues: 1. Spotted between puffs - every few seconds. I think stationary stationary, but certainly at quarter speed - you are detected between each puff. This is new, this is real, this is a bug; and 2. The smoke counter - instead of counting down the full smoke cycle - counts down a few seconds for each puff, and then starts again. This gives you no clue as to when the smoke is going to run out, which was the whole point of the counter in the first place. I have played the Neptune and i don't think it happened with that ship - but as it only gives a few puffs, it may not have shown up the way it does with the Perth. WG - please fix! Just watch how long your smoke generator has left and add 10sec. Also read WG statement above Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UKWG] Nightsky [UKWG] Players 18 posts 13,291 battles Report post #23 Posted August 24, 2017 any news when the bug will be fixed? hoped WG manage to the GC17 update but well go killed right after testing it out stationary smoke and moving smoke ... smoke ends and get spottet for 1 sec bla bla bla the well know bug. so when u fix my favorite ship ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BYOB] Aragathor Players 7,047 posts 32,333 battles Report post #24 Posted August 25, 2017 18 hours ago, Nightsky said: any news when the bug will be fixed? hoped WG manage to the GC17 update but well go killed right after testing it out stationary smoke and moving smoke ... smoke ends and get spottet for 1 sec bla bla bla the well know bug. so when u fix my favorite ship ? Check back next year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CPA] Procrastes Beta Tester 4,083 posts 4,481 battles Report post #25 Posted August 26, 2017 On 2017-08-11 at 5:42 PM, Tuccy said: Helloes, quickly checked: It is a bug The devs are already working on solution and will deploy it when ready and tested. Sorry for the inconvenience Thanks for the quick information, Tuccy! This might be a noob question, but how will we know when the bug is fixed? Will it be announced somewhere? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
