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Can we get a British premium CV now we have Graf Zep, HMS Ark Royal would be amazing or a reskinned Bogue/Ruler escort carrier.

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USS Robin? :cap_haloween:

 

In any case we do not generally reveal new ship bfore it is time to do so, so... no comment, follow the forums and facebook page and wait for when such a thing appears :)

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4 minutes ago, Mymeara said:

 

I dont see a problem with lend lease ships (with british aircraft) and aircraft (on a British carrier) as a Premium ship. mainly due to the fact that elements are already in game so WG Devs dont have quite as much work to do to get a new ship out quickly.

 

on the other hand as stated before the Fleet Air Arm had more than enough Aircraft designs throughout the war to fill tier IV-X carriers

 

Errrrrrrrr Albacore dive bomber?  Her wings would tear off :P

 

TBH Brits would have a potential or "carrier fighters" and "carrier fighter-bombers" rather than a "torpedo / dive bomber" split, but that would require new mechanics etc. - we are not there yet. Give it some more time :)

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a reskined bogue as a Ruler class would be the easiest option, the ship is in game and so are the aircraft that flew off it are in game as seaplanes for the cripple cruiser line (Seahurricanes and Swordfish) those in theory shouldnt require that much work to turn into deck planes.

 

USS Robin/HMS Victorious is a great idea as a Premium vessel because while the RN FAA did use alot of US Lend-Lease aircraft mid to late war there are more than enough British designed aircraft to equip on the tech tree carriers. Having American fighters in the tech tree could be easily mistaken for lazyness on wargamings part.

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@Tuccy in all seriousness, destroyers, cruisers and battleships all have three, four, five lines to choose from and yet carriers still only have two.  the premium CV's are good but we need another CV line as a priority to spice up the competition and give diversity to the class.  we don't need more battleships or destroyers

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19 hours ago, p1j2i3l4 said:

Please no lend-lease stuff.....

 

I dont see a problem with lend lease ships (with british aircraft) and aircraft (on a British carrier) as a Premium ship. mainly due to the fact that elements are already in game so WG Devs dont have quite as much work to do to get a new ship out quickly.

 

on the other hand as stated before the Fleet Air Arm had more than enough Aircraft designs throughout the war to fill tier IV-X carriers

 

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21 hours ago, Mymeara said:

a reskined bogue as a Ruler class would be the easiest option, the ship is in game and so are the aircraft that flew off it are in game as seaplanes for the cripple cruiser line (Seahurricanes and Swordfish) those in theory shouldnt require that much work to turn into deck planes.

 

 

A reskinned Bogue would suck the hardest too. Who on earth would pay money to play a CV without Alt Dropping... 

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1 hour ago, Tuccy said:

Errrrrrrrr Albacore dive bomber?  Her wings would tear off :P

 

TBH Brits would have a potential or "carrier fighters" and "carrier fighter-bombers" rather than a "torpedo / dive bomber" split, but that would require new mechanics etc. - we are not there yet. Give it some more time :)

 

I suppose the tier V DB would have to be a swordfish as well (which could dive bomb... that is if it comes with DBs at all,) and the Albacore moved up to become the Tier 6 Torpedo bomber but hey at least someone read it! :Smile_teethhappy:

 

you strike a interesting concept with fighter bombers but how could it be theoretically handled in game?

Fighters that can dog fight, dive bomb or launch torpedoes dealing less damage than dedicated interceptors or bombers?

Fighters with *gasp* :Smile_ohmy: Rockets?

 

at the same time,


certain iconic Fleet Air Arm (namely the Sea Hurricane and Seafire) had a incredibly limited role due to their lack of range and very limited weapons payload. it would be difficult to balance having a dedicated fighter wing AND bomber squadrons capable of fighting back against interdiction.


 

 

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13 hours ago, Negativvv said:

 

A reskinned Bogue would suck the hardest too. Who on earth would pay money to play a CV without Alt Dropping... 

 

I would.............

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HMS Nabob (D77)* and HMS Puncher (D79) were Bogue-class (British Ruler class) and crewed by the RCN with aircrew from the Fleet Air Arm. The British Admiralty had determined that, post-World War II, the Royal Canadian Navy would have its own aircraft carriers. For this reason, Puncher and Nabob were crewed by Royal Canadian Navy personnel to establish the knowledge base for the future carriers. However, the aircrew was from the Fleet Air Arm.

Between them they carried the following Aircraft

 Fairey Barracuda torpedo bombers, The Barracuda was one of the largest carrier-borne aircraft in the Royal Navy Fleet Air Arm and required rocket assistance to take flight from the small flight deck!

Fairey  Swordfish torpedo bombers

 Grumman Avenger ant-submarine aircraft

Fairey Firefly fighter/bombers

Grumman Martlet fighters (F4F Wildcat) Even before the Wildcat had been purchased by U.S. Navy, the RN Fleet Air Arm(FAA) had ordered the Wildcat, with their own configurations. It scored its first combat victory on Dec 25th 1940,

Hawker Sea Hurricane fighters

Vought F4U Corsair

Grumman Hellcat fighters

*Nabob was a member of Force 2 during Operation Goodwood, where her Wildcats of 852 Squadron flew Cap over the carrier and her Avengers of 852 and 856 Squadrons flew anti-submarine patrols.While the main force attacking Tirpitz prepared for another strike, the escort carriers went to refuel the DDs . During these operations, Nabob was torpedoed by the German submarine U-354.    The torpedo impact made a hole 32 sq ft (3.0 m2) below the waterline on the starboard side aft. The stern sank 15 feet (4.6 m) before flooding could be controlled. Eventually the damage control parties effected enough repairs that the ship could make 10 knots (19 km/h; 12 mph). Five days later she slowly steamed into ScapaFlow  under her own power.

 

 

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17 hours ago, Iron_Walls said:

HMS Nabob (D77)* and HMS Puncher (D79) were Bogue-class (British Ruler class) and crewed by the RCN with aircrew from the Fleet Air Arm. The British Admiralty had determined that, post-World War II, the Royal Canadian Navy would have its own aircraft carriers. For this reason, Puncher and Nabob were crewed by Royal Canadian Navy personnel to establish the knowledge base for the future carriers. However, the aircrew was from the Fleet Air Arm.

Between them they carried the following Aircraft

 Fairey Barracuda torpedo bombers, The Barracuda was one of the largest carrier-borne aircraft in the Royal Navy Fleet Air Arm and required rocket assistance to take flight from the small flight deck!

Fairey  Swordfish torpedo bombers

 Grumman Avenger ant-submarine aircraft

Fairey Firefly fighter/bombers

Grumman Martlet fighters (F4F Wildcat) Even before the Wildcat had been purchased by U.S. Navy, the RN Fleet Air Arm(FAA) had ordered the Wildcat, with their own configurations. It scored its first combat victory on Dec 25th 1940,

Hawker Sea Hurricane fighters

Vought F4U Corsair

Grumman Hellcat fighters

*Nabob was a member of Force 2 during Operation Goodwood, where her Wildcats of 852 Squadron flew Cap over the carrier and her Avengers of 852 and 856 Squadrons flew anti-submarine patrols.While the main force attacking Tirpitz prepared for another strike, the escort carriers went to refuel the DDs . During these operations, Nabob was torpedoed by the German submarine U-354.    The torpedo impact made a hole 32 sq ft (3.0 m2) below the waterline on the starboard side aft. The stern sank 15 feet (4.6 m) before flooding could be controlled. Eventually the damage control parties effected enough repairs that the ship could make 10 knots (19 km/h; 12 mph). Five days later she slowly steamed into ScapaFlow  under her own power.

 

 

HMS_Nabob.jpg

Nice post :Smile_honoring:

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Still no news, astounding that we don't have a RN CV in game.

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17 minutes ago, Vistulus said:

Still no news, astounding that we don't have a RN CV in game.

 

Why? Don’t find that surprising much... it’s not like RN CVs are super famous or anything. Other than US built escort carriers fighting the Atlantic battle against subs - but that’s not WOWS relevant so I happily wait until after the CV rework.

 

In general - I prefer they finally get around to launch the new CV gameplay rather then wasting time on adding content to the old (insert anything you like) way.

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14 minutes ago, 1MajorKoenig said:

 

Why? Don’t find that surprising much... it’s not like RN CVs are super famous or anything. Other than US built escort carriers fighting the Atlantic battle against subs - but that’s not WOWS relevant so I happily wait until after the CV rework.

 

In general - I prefer they finally get around to launch the new CV gameplay rather then wasting time on adding content to the old (insert anything you like) way.

 

Other than the sinking of the Bismark (Ark Royal) or the HMS Glorious (sunk by Scharnhorst and Gneisenau) to name just two.... Much much much more super famous than the Graf Zep which was never completed or operational, IMHO.

 

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4 minutes ago, Vistulus said:

 

Other than the sinking of the Bismark (Ark Royal) or the HMS Glorious (sunk by Scharnhorst and Gneisenau) to name just two.... Much much much more super famous than the Graf Zep which was never completed or operational, IMHO.

 

 

I don’t consider GZ significant by any means and think she should have been released after the rework. But if I think of famous CVs and true CV engagements I am more in the Pacific as the war in the Atlantic was a Guerilla war at best. A vastly dominant force hunting a small Guerilla force utilizing hit and run tactics to disturb (not even disrupt) supplies. 

 

You could argue that Ark Royal has some significance due to her tragic end and involvement in the hunt for the Bismarck. However she would need to be low tier due to small aircraft reserves and horribad planes compared to IJN and USN ships. I am not sure where to put her as even Hiryu and Ruiyo would vastly outperform her in game I guess. And Glorious is the same story at the end. Other than being sunk there is nothing too remarkable about this very early experiment.

 

If I had to pick an RN Premium Carrier it would be Hermes. She had an active service career and a famous yet somewhat tragic end against vastly superior Japanese technology. I would say T5 but due to missing ALT attacks I’d try to über-buff her a little and shoehorn her into T6.

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4 hours ago, 1MajorKoenig said:

Why? Don’t find that surprising much... it’s not like RN CVs are super famous or anything.

It's just that the other nations in the game were never much into the whole Aircraft Carrier business, where as the RN has a full tree from WW2 designs alone. 

 

Eagle (IV) / Hermes or Ark Royal (V) / Majestic (VI)/ Illustrious / Indomitable (VII) / Implacable (VIII)/ Audacious (IX) / Malta (X)

 

Sure they'd start tricky but they'd be decent ships at the end of the game....

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Going to keep banging on here.... we have ONE British premium in the shop right now ONE..  YES ONE.

 

A British CV even if it was a reskinned Bouge would be a 100% improvement on the current sad state of play.

 

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