[RJCTS] Boris_MNE Players 1,568 posts 10,303 battles Report post #1 Posted August 7, 2017 Yo gents, Lets have positive discussion about ships. Which ship in the game is the hardest one to play in current meta? Why? We can make 2 categories. Regular and premium one. I will start with Pensacola. Most awesome and awful ship in the game. One wrong turn and you are literary back in the port... but there is challenge into that isnt it? As for premium I would mention Belfast. In my opinion, either you carry game or you are complete thrash. That is why I play very little Belfast. Whats your expirence, opinion or suggestion to try challenge? Boris 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TEAM_] Dampfboot Players 1,367 posts 11,386 battles Report post #2 Posted August 7, 2017 Definitely Emerald, whet cardboard armor, eats citadels from IFHE and 65% of the time sees TVII BBs (but who can't do any damage broadside, just through the front ). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TACHA] triumphgt6 Players 1,870 posts 22,637 battles Report post #3 Posted August 7, 2017 Agree - Emerald! Spectacularly awful - I confess to free XPing her but went back afterwards and it is still awful. Atlanta has taken me many hundreds of games to really get used to - very unforgiving but hilarious when everything lines up! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] loppantorkel Players 4,506 posts 15,942 battles Report post #4 Posted August 7, 2017 New Orleans seems to be tougher to play than before. Mostly in tier ten games and lacks the firepower to take out fleeing dds during a radar. Farragut is pretty bad too... Pensacola at least gets good mm. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SLAPP] lameoll Players 1,792 posts 10,834 battles Report post #5 Posted August 7, 2017 i think aoba. strong guns but the dpm is so low. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KHS01 Players 511 posts 23,063 battles Report post #6 Posted August 7, 2017 T8 US CV Lexington. Few squadrons for answering IJN CV's squadrons, also for premium US CV Enterprise squadrons. + Long reloading times + long detection distance. In fact all US CVs have same issues excluding premium CVs. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Tyke Players 456 posts 10,463 battles Report post #7 Posted August 7, 2017 Emerald again The only ship from the RN line that I deleted at the first opportunity I got. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BYOB] Aragathor Players 7,047 posts 32,322 battles Report post #8 Posted August 7, 2017 1 minute ago, loppantorkel said: New Orleans seems to be tougher than before. Mostly in tier ten games and lacks the firepower to take out fleeing dds during a radar. Farragut is pretty bad too... Pensacola at least gets good mm. The NO is in bad position because of the MM, at tier it's a really good ship with powerful guns. Emerald as mentioned before is bad. But the Krasny Krym is worse, at least that's what I've heard since I'm not spending cash to buy it. The Galissonniere is also tough to play, you can make it work but it's not worth it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOO] _B_A_N_E_ Players 28 posts 16,766 battles Report post #9 Posted August 7, 2017 Agreed... Emerald is a total nightmare. Wish I did free XP through her, but didn't. Stuck at her, had a couple of good matches, but on the whole she wants to sink. Worst premium? Tough one... maybe Krasny Krym or Marblehead. Own both, but not played a load of matches in either of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BW-UK] Bubba_S Players 205 posts 29,624 battles Report post #10 Posted August 7, 2017 Well... Emerald is a though cockie to play. But its also a damn funny ship to play. I just had to log in now and play it. I even bought the permant Irish camo for it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #11 Posted August 7, 2017 Hardest silver ship to play for me is Shimakaze. Hardest premium to play for me is probably.. Molotov? Idk that one just isn't very relaxing to play ( often ). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SLAPP] lameoll Players 1,792 posts 10,834 battles Report post #12 Posted August 7, 2017 ahh hardest premium ship ...... mikasa XD 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] __Helmut_Kohl__ Beta Tester 4,156 posts 18,919 battles Report post #13 Posted August 7, 2017 I find Atlanta really hard, because if you don't sit behind an island, you're gonna have a bad time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capra76 Players 5,001 posts 7,787 battles Report post #14 Posted August 7, 2017 4 minutes ago, Bubba_S said: Well... Emerald is a though cockie to play. It's not really that hard to play though, it's a bad ship, but not one that's especially hard to play. Sail up to edge of detection range, smoke, shoot, run away and pray that nothing spots you then repeat and that's about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BABBY] StringWitch Beta Tester 1,608 posts Report post #15 Posted August 7, 2017 Regular: 1-1-1 Lexington. Should be unnerfed to 2-1-1. Even Ranger struggles with 1-1-1. Premium: Indianapolis. Her good point (upgraded armour as the last-generation treaty cruiser) isn't good (57mm citadel abafts, compare with Cleveland citadel being 127mm all-round). Radar consumable doesn't synergise with the ship's long-range playstyle at all. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jss78 Players 1,292 posts 12,866 battles Report post #16 Posted August 7, 2017 It's hard to separate the quality of the ship and the effect of the MM. For example New Orleans is on paper a solid upgrade on Pepsi in all respects -- however it's absolutely NOT good enough an upgrade, once you factor in that you'll go from mostly facing T5's to mostly facing T10's. Due to MM and the general meta, I'd say ANY T5 or T8 cruiser is the hard mode in this game. Based on recent experience I'd also suggest La Galissonière. Apart from grinding towards the Algérie, I have the hardest time seeing why you'd play it instead of Cleveland. Worse guns, worse survivability, slower, less agile, night-and-day difference in AA. Those two torps per side don't make up for it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOO] _B_A_N_E_ Players 28 posts 16,766 battles Report post #17 Posted August 7, 2017 Actually yeah... hardest premium to play is Mikasa... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] lup3s Players 5,744 posts 32,893 battles Report post #18 Posted August 7, 2017 Silver ships: Ranger (and probably higher tier USN CVs too) - and the T5 Emerald. Premium ships: Dunkirque. I [edited] hate that ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLAST] Armorin [BLAST] Players 763 posts 13,067 battles Report post #19 Posted August 7, 2017 I find any RN CL from T3 up to the T7 I have takes hard hits no matter what the angle. You could line a team of Emeralds up bow to stearn though, and a T7 BB could shoot through the lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SICK] Exocet6951 Weekend Tester 5,151 posts 11,809 battles Report post #20 Posted August 7, 2017 A worthy mention goes to the Atlanta. Sure you can tell me "but herp derp, you just park behind an island and spam rainbows!" Well yes, but unless you have a good captain with both IFHE and AFT, you have to pick between getting damage (other than fire damage) or having passable range. Then you have to deal with the rainbow arc. Then you have to deal with the fact that everyone wants you dead, and can overmatch/regular pen you. Then you have to deal with the fact that if you want to use your torpedoes, all you have is an awkward, one per side with poor angles layout, which insures that you can neither retreat while launching torps, nor use them offensively. Ultimately, it's a ship with which you need to know the maps, and if the map/the way the match is being played isn't to your advantage, there's nothing you can do but wait, to your team's (often vocal) discontent. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
albinbino Players 662 posts 11,080 battles Report post #21 Posted August 7, 2017 I say it is Neptune and Mogami. Not saying they are weak ships, simply successful gameplay for these 2 ships is demanding. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
creamgravy Players 2,780 posts 17,292 battles Report post #22 Posted August 7, 2017 I remember watching a tier 6 Mutsuki get crushed by a ST sailing a tier 6 Błyskawica. Hilarious mismatch! Mutsuki is much better at tier 5, now it only gets matched agasint ships like Błyskawica and Belfas. Oh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FJAKA] WingedHussar_Adler [FJAKA] Players 2,871 posts 16,103 battles Report post #23 Posted August 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Boris_MNE said: Yo gents, Lets have positive discussion about ships. Which ship in the game is the hardest one to play in current meta? Why? We can make 2 categories. Regular and premium one. I will start with Pensacola. Most awesome and awful ship in the game. One wrong turn and you are literary back in the port... but there is challenge into that isnt it? As for premium I would mention Belfast. In my opinion, either you carry game or you are complete thrash. That is why I play very little Belfast. Whats your expirence, opinion or suggestion to try challenge? Boris Lexington. Strike one.....for premium.....eh.....emden.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KLUNJ] beercrazy [KLUNJ] Beta Tester 1,509 posts 11,905 battles Report post #24 Posted August 7, 2017 normal ship = emerald premium ship = mikasa Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KHS01 Players 511 posts 23,063 battles Report post #25 Posted August 7, 2017 And Cleveland. A paper ship all her life is apx. 2-5 mins. when she detected. Also have no torpedos. :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
