[GRON] kokdim [GRON] Players 14 posts 54,114 battles Report post #1 Posted August 6, 2017 Come on guys what's going on with you???? You have nerfed the Khaba 3 or 4 times....you have made it unplayable an all us players unhuppy with it....why you dont remove the torps completely and also make the range 10Km...it doesnt turn...it doesnt torp ...and it does not have range!!!!! Nice...! I regret the money spent on the camo!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #2 Posted August 6, 2017 lel... It's still pretty powerful as before it was downright OP. Oh and let that be a lesson learnt, don't buy camo as WG will change your ship when they feel like (I'm still salty over the Aki changes). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ferry_25 Players 4,392 posts 12,107 battles Report post #3 Posted August 6, 2017 WTF? K is one of the most annoying bloody ships in this game!!! Kite and HE spam the hell out of everybody. For me: I've lost complete interest in the Russian DD line after the freaking "split." In fact I didn't play 1 game in a Russian DD since then. But I do know I fear K one of the most when facing it... Even after the stealth firing nerf. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Aotearas Players 8,460 posts 13,076 battles Report post #4 Posted August 6, 2017 Khabarovsk unplayable. You heard it WG. Where's muh bussian rias? Khaba not blyatiful enough! Gib 2 second rudder shift, additional tier IX/X upgrade slot with Aiming Systems Mod.2 and RN CL heal, xaxaxaxa. But seriously now, Khaba is broken. I still keep getting DD MM in this ship. Khaba is a light cruiser, not a DD, WG plz fix! 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HABIT] Tungstonid Beta Tester 1,568 posts Report post #5 Posted August 6, 2017 I think we had this discussion a while ago. IMO someone sumed it up pretty good by saying something along the lines of: The Khaba didn't rely on her torpedoes at all so this was not a real nerf anyway. They were nice to have (I guess, because I don't have her and just like Ferry_25 I just can't and want to touch my Kiew after the split anymore) but never really relevant because you want to stay at max range where torpedoes were useless due to "only" 10 km range. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #6 Posted August 6, 2017 15 minutes ago, kokdim said: Come on guys what's going on with you???? You have nerfed the Khaba 3 or 4 times....you have made it unplayable an all us players unhuppy with it....why you dont remove the torps completely and also make the range 10Km...it doesnt turn...it doesnt torp ...and it does not have range!!!!! Nice...! I regret the money spent on the camo!!!! Your account stats for Khaba are +-50k dmg and 47% wr. Your recent Khaba stats ( 17 games ) are 51kdmg and 29% wr. You're just having a worse selection of teams, you're not performing less than before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GRON] kokdim [GRON] Players 14 posts 54,114 battles Report post #7 Posted August 6, 2017 Neggative you are completely right...i will never spend my money on camos....what annoys me the most is that they never stop nerfing that ship...the torpido ragne decrease was the cherry on the pie....even a benson in a smoke can reck you and you cannot do anything about it (29 instead of 47....is not less?????) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HMSR] Major_Damage225 Beta Tester 2,875 posts 7,295 battles Report post #8 Posted August 6, 2017 Benson reckting a Khaba? (i have neither but i only stay well clear of one of them when im in a IJN DD and thats the K.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GRON] kokdim [GRON] Players 14 posts 54,114 battles Report post #9 Posted August 6, 2017 mtm 78... you are wrong...the ship as it is now is a big crap...i have it for more than a year...and i can tell you about it...it was a balance ship..but the torpido decrease made everyone its last choice...Udaloi is a much superior ship... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GRON] kokdim [GRON] Players 14 posts 54,114 battles Report post #10 Posted August 6, 2017 I said when they are in smoke....all destroyes can torp in a smoke...even cruisers can ...like zao and Hinde....but not the Khaba.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Aotearas Players 8,460 posts 13,076 battles Report post #11 Posted August 6, 2017 11 minutes ago, kokdim said: Neggative you are completely right...i will never spend my money on camos....what annoys me the most is that they never stop nerfing that ship...the torpido ragne decrease was the cherry on the pie....even a benson in a smoke can reck you and you cannot do anything about it Don't sail close to angry smokes? Particularily US DDs with their freedom mortars will have a hard time hitting you even if all you do buzz at fullspeed in a straight line. If you're getting chewed up by a US DD, you were at the wrong place at the wrong time. Don't fight on their turf on their terms. 7 minutes ago, kokdim said: mtm 78... you are wrong...the ship as it is now is a big crap...i have it for more than a year...and i can tell you about it...it was a balance ship..but the torpido decrease made everyone its last choice...Udaloi is a much superior ship... He's not wrong. And no, the Khaba wasn't balanced. This is a classic PEBCAK error code, to fix this try to git gud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #12 Posted August 6, 2017 I <3 people who think anecdotal evidence ( which in itself doesn't even exist ) could have any argumental value at all, let alone over actually available performance metrics. Kokdim, in your last 17 games you did on average MORE than your historical average damage yet you won only 29% of games. That's not the ship, that's a bad win streak. Come back in 50 more games in Khaba since now and I bet it will be much close to your average 47% win rate in Khaba. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GRON] kokdim [GRON] Players 14 posts 54,114 battles Report post #13 Posted August 6, 2017 It doesnt go like that...its a dd...and in many games the only one...and it cannot cap...9.7 km visibillity...It is not a cruiser and it doesnt have 18km range and it turns worse than a cruiser...even the bbs are wreking me ...so what it is? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Aotearas Players 8,460 posts 13,076 battles Report post #14 Posted August 6, 2017 Just now, kokdim said: It doesnt go like that...its a dd...and in many games the only one...and it cannot cap...9.7 km visibillity...It is not a cruiser and it doesnt have 18km range...so what it is? A light cruiser. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GRON] kokdim [GRON] Players 14 posts 54,114 battles Report post #15 Posted August 6, 2017 It is not a Cruiser...Light or not..and it is not strange why i am the only khaba in my last few games...(i used to face one or two enemys with khabas in the past while now i am the only one i most of my games!) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Aotearas Players 8,460 posts 13,076 battles Report post #16 Posted August 6, 2017 Well, if you insist the Khaba not being a light cruiser, then by all means continue trying to play her like a DD and attempt to capture domination points with your 9,7km detectability and get wrecked by Bensons in their smokes. We can't help you if you don't want to hear you might be doing something wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] WolfGewehr Weekend Tester, In AlfaTesters 2,844 posts 11,496 battles Report post #17 Posted August 6, 2017 When I see a thread that claims how an OP/strong ship is bad and nerfed too much: Khaba and Senjo are so weak after all the nerfs 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GRON] kokdim [GRON] Players 14 posts 54,114 battles Report post #18 Posted August 6, 2017 well you dont see my point...if in a game there are 2 dds in every team...someone has to cap at some time...sicnce in order to win you dont need damage or kills but points...So your team has a big disadvantage from the beggining...After that as light cruiser (actually what is that? Are there another light cruiser? How much life a light cruiser must have? Zao what it is and it has the previlledge to have 8km torps? Udaloi..had 14,5 km range ..15 torps..with 8km range for what.???? sacrifising a tower? and it is 9lvl!) in my point of view it is the only ship in the game that it has been nerfed 4 times in a raw...and it does not deserve it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HABIT] Tungstonid Beta Tester 1,568 posts Report post #19 Posted August 6, 2017 Khaba is classified as a DD ingame. She being called a light cruiser is a hint at maybe her size and that you should play her as light cruiser, which means stay at range, make use of your mobility and do pewpewpew without getting hit. It usually is not a DD to go brawl with. Also Udaloi only has 3x3 torpedoes, not 15. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[COOOP] Shirakami_Kon Players 2,624 posts 12,776 battles Report post #20 Posted August 6, 2017 1 hour ago, kokdim said: Come on guys what's going on with you???? You have nerfed the Khaba 3 or 4 times....you have made it unplayable an all us players unhuppy with it.... IJN DDs would like to have a word with you complaining about just 3 or 4 nerfs of just one ship of the line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Aotearas Players 8,460 posts 13,076 battles Report post #21 Posted August 6, 2017 12 minutes ago, Tungstonid said: Khaba is classified as a DD ingame. She being called a light cruiser is a hint at maybe her size and that you should play her as light cruiser, which means stay at range, make use of your mobility and do pewpewpew without getting hit. It usually is not a DD to go brawl with. Also Udaloi only has 3x3 torpedoes, not 15. B hull gives Udaloi 3x5 launchers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPUDS] Unintentional_submarine [SPUDS] Beta Tester 4,052 posts 8,765 battles Report post #22 Posted August 7, 2017 Well, this thread is a goldmine. Firstly it is proof that idiocy isn't only met with scorn and 'toxicity'. And secondly it is just too hilarious... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KUMA] Kittykami Beta Tester 289 posts 11,934 battles Report post #23 Posted August 7, 2017 Wait, is this a troll thread? It has to be, right? I'm a fairly crappy player and even I can see how freakin' OP the kebab is. Losing the 10km torps was the smallest nerf they could have given her, and the rudder shift can be completely negated by taking the appropriate modules. I bet you're running CE and stealth module and trying to contest caps, aren't you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Aotearas Players 8,460 posts 13,076 battles Report post #24 Posted August 7, 2017 6 minutes ago, Kittykami said: I bet you're running CE and stealth module and trying to contest caps, aren't you? With 9,7km detectability he has neither, but his statement regarding Bensons wrecking him from smokes implies he's still trying to contest hot caps. Maybe an outlier of the Tirpitz syndrome: have torps, must use them even if it doen't make sense! -> Rushes into the enemy to get within 6km and dies. Because a properly kiting Khaba is still just as nasty (if not more thanks to the heal) than before a couple nerfs and the only chance another DD has is to outspot it and then have the trigger discipline to NOT start a bloody gunfight with a Khaba, then have his team shoot it up or bail if the team is a bunch of potatoes who won't try to nuke an enemy Khaba at the earliest possible moment. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[XBGX] _VAMPA_ Players 747 posts 16,618 battles Report post #25 Posted August 7, 2017 After the buff of secondarys now its normal Khaba and Grozovoi to receive 800m range buff(when speced with cap ofc) Also torps of Khaba should be reduced to 5km and speed buffed to 75knots Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
