[A-O-W] whoers Players 40 posts 6,278 battles Report post #1 Posted August 3, 2017 Recently I've been experiencing a full blown stat addiction and it absolutely ruins my experience. To explain it a little more - My stats are nothing special, but I've become so obsessed with them that I don't play for fun anymore I only play to get purple numbers. I know that realistically I cannot expect every game session to end with unicum performance, yet I somehow choose to ignore this fact. If my PR drops by 1-2 point at the end of the day I go into full salt mode, instantly ragequit and start to question why I play this stockholm syndrome simulator. My own overconfidence has become my bane and I don't even understand why I obsess so much about it. I didn't play many other online games, but the ones I did, I was never trying to be even remotely as 'competitive' as I am with Warships. Anybody had the same experience? Any suggestions?(better than - Just don't look at the stats! - which is pretty valid, but difficult because the urge is so strong) Can WG remove me from any public stat collection so that I wouldn't even be able to look them up? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RJCTS] Boris_MNE Players 1,568 posts 10,303 battles Report post #2 Posted August 3, 2017 Yes same happened to me. But I think I have actually learn to play better since I care about stats. My avg dmg was like 25k or under 2 months ago... in these days avg is 35k but I play lot better and I am pround of that. Try to put fun on first place.. your PR is not connected to win or lose ration but to your playing. In sunday I played 30 matches and my win rate was 20 percent but my PR increased. Boris Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #3 Posted August 3, 2017 22 minutes ago, whoers said: Recently I've been experiencing a full blown stat addiction and it absolutely ruins my experience. To explain it a little more - My stats are nothing special, but I've become so obsessed with them that I don't play for fun anymore I only play to get purple numbers. I know that realistically I cannot expect every game session to end with unicum performance, yet I somehow choose to ignore this fact. If my PR drops by 1-2 point at the end of the day I go into full salt mode, instantly ragequit and start to question why I play this stockholm syndrome simulator. My own overconfidence has become my bane and I don't even understand why I obsess so much about it. I didn't play many other online games, but the ones I did, I was never trying to be even remotely as 'competitive' as I am with Warships. Anybody had the same experience? Any suggestions?(better than - Just don't look at the stats! - which is pretty valid, but difficult because the urge is so strong) Can WG remove me from any public stat collection so that I wouldn't even be able to look them up? Ofc. Everyone I think who checks his stats for self improvement will find that there can be times the numbers seem more important than the fun you have obtaining them. The trick is to find the balance you're comfortable with. I'm not a super unicum and I don't think I would like trying to become one. Because I think it's within my possibilities but I would need to grind specific ships only and that would make the game a lot less fun. Certainly since I get my best 'ratings' when playing bad ships, not good one's. Everyone can do reasonably well in a good ship, let alone an overpowered one ( looking at Belfast ). My WTR is mostly raised when I play ships like Yorck, Schorsh, not when I would play my Imperator. So you should ask the same: is it important enough for you to get/maintain your 'status' to limit how you play ( and thus you will have more frustration ) or can you use your stats just for self reflection and improvement. Edit: btw, want to have a super unicum account -> reroll get a clemson and play 500 games in it, easy peasy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #4 Posted August 3, 2017 If you care about PR, you are doing it wrong.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[XBGX] _VAMPA_ Players 747 posts 16,618 battles Report post #5 Posted August 3, 2017 20 minutes ago, whoers said: Recently I've been experiencing a full blown stat addiction and it absolutely ruins my experience. To explain it a little more - My stats are nothing special, but I've become so obsessed with them that I don't play for fun anymore I only play to get purple numbers. I know that realistically I cannot expect every game session to end with unicum performance, yet I somehow choose to ignore this fact. If my PR drops by 1-2 point at the end of the day I go into full salt mode, instantly ragequit and start to question why I play this stockholm syndrome simulator. My own overconfidence has become my bane and I don't even understand why I obsess so much about it. I didn't play many other online games, but the ones I did, I was never trying to be even remotely as 'competitive' as I am with Warships. Anybody had the same experience? Any suggestions?(better than - Just don't look at the stats! - which is pretty valid, but difficult because the urge is so strong) Can WG remove me from any public stat collection so that I wouldn't even be able to look them up? just make ur profile private and ull receive USer is NOt pRoud of his blalbalbaablala or ask for reroll and from day one keep ur profile private or just come div with me ill give my best to smash up ur current stats to d ground (team kill is special extra which ill include for free) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #6 Posted August 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, _VAMPA_ said: or just come div with me ill give my best to smash up ur current stats to d ground (team kill is special extra which ill include for free) In conjunction with your 24 games 63% win rate session yesterday I severely doubt the sincerity of your offer 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tekacko Players 309 posts 6,030 battles Report post #7 Posted August 3, 2017 Actually using OP ships like the Belfast is bad for farming WTR since you need to perform really good in them to even get unicum stats (since the overall average statistics like damage/wr are high, thus yours need to be even higher. You want to use the "crappiest" (worst overall statistics) ship. Eg a Pensacola, Mahan, Ognevoi, etc, where you can easily get 2 or 3 times the average damage (since the average damage is terribly low on them) For Example: Belfast has 49.000 average damage and an average WR of 57,4 percent. Pensacola has 27.500 average damage and a WR of 48,4 percent. This means that in order to get "Unicum" or thereabouts stats you would only need around 40-50k average damage on the Pensa, while on the Belfast you would easily need to pull in over 80k average damage with a higher WR for the same WTR as on the Pensa. So yeah, if you are a stats whore just get good at the trash ships and you can easily get good stats. I´m not saying you will be having fun though 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ferry_25 Players 4,392 posts 12,107 battles Report post #8 Posted August 3, 2017 As far as I can tell from where I'm standing your stats are amazing! For me stats are a meager tool. And no not because they avergely suck. I use it as a tool in order to see where my flaws are and where I can improve. But it's, for me, telling 10% of the whole story. I'd rather have 10 epic battles lost in a row than the awful ROFLstomp games which are plaguing wows. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darky_fighter Players 5,649 posts Report post #9 Posted August 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Tekacko said: For Example: Belfast has 49.000 average damage and an average WR of 57,4 percent. Pensacola has 27.500 average damage and a WR of 48,4 percent. This means that in order to get "Unicum" or thereabouts stats you would only need around 40-50k average damage on the Pensa, while on the Belfast you would easily need to pull in over 80k average damage with a higher WR for the same WTR as on the Pensa. So yeah, if you are a stats whore just get good at the trash ships and you can easily get good stats. I´m not saying you will be having fun though Or use the Atlanta. This ship is very special so the average stats are also bad (26.809 Avg Damage). But it has a lot of potential and it makes even fun. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Admiral_noodle Supertest Coordinator 6,337 posts 4,395 battles Report post #10 Posted August 3, 2017 I still have this problem although I've got over it mostly. Personal ratings are deeply flawed. Even win rate is only valid over thousands of games... One game into Mahan and it was an ok game. 40k damage a couple of kills and a win. But apparently that's super unicum. Meanwhile I can play my *** off in saint Louis and get "average". WTR rewards damage farmers. Don't be one of them. Focus on each game and treat it as a one off. Your only as good as the last game you played. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[A-O-W] whoers Players 40 posts 6,278 battles Report post #11 Posted August 3, 2017 As some of you have suggested, I have used stats as a tool to improve my performance, but I think I'm past this point now. It's gotten me out of the potato zone, but I obviously missed the point when to stop caring about them so much. To clarify things a little, I'm not trying to stat pad, but I'm trying to keep my performance levels rising all the time at all costs and if they go down even a little it drives me bonkers. Towards the end of the game I will actively seek more and more dangerous situations only to farm some more kills, XP and damage. I even outright refuse to play certain ships(which I love) because I'm afraid of ruining MUH' STATS. TBH I used to be pretty average at the game, but I think I was enjoying the game much more back then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #12 Posted August 3, 2017 Atlanta is the most situationally limited premium you can buy. But if you can hug your waifu and employ the InvisibleAtlantaHack™ then I hate having you on the enemy team edit: Just now, whoers said: I even outright refuse to play certain ships(which I love) because I'm afraid of ruining MUH' STATS. I refuse to play my Shima, not just because I have a subhuman win rate in it but mostly because I have no FUN when I play her ( due to having subhuman performance.. ). There are no ships which I refuse to play because they would lower my rating ( as opposed to others who have to pad using them ). But I don't play Belfast, well I haven't in a long time, because playing broken ships isn't fun. I don't play MK, or almost don't, not because I can't or because she is 'weak' but because she is absurdly strong. Yeah my MK stats suck, I'm just not that interested in getting good stats in it. Yeah yeah I played the most broken ship in the game a LOT, like 300+ games in Imperator Nikolai. But my last match in that was when we could still meet Fuso's and New Mexico's. Nothing was more fun than herding tier six battlesheeps with a tier four and get accused of cheating in almost every match Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Venatacia Beta Tester 872 posts 5,885 battles Report post #13 Posted August 3, 2017 Use OP ships if you want to get to purple, it's that easy. Got to 62% win rate a year ago then gave up on stats because they drive you mad. Only play operations now as they don't involve stats - wish random battles where like that. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #14 Posted August 3, 2017 Just now, Venatacia said: Use OP ships if you want to get to purple, it's that easy. Got to 62% win rate a year ago then gave up on stats because they drive you mad. Only play operations now as they don't involve stats - wish random battles where like that. OP ships only get you purple win rate though, that means really nothing ( then again, what absolute meaning do stats have anyway... they are just indications you can use for balance and for self improvement ). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waxx25 Players 1,296 posts 11,488 battles Report post #15 Posted August 3, 2017 Play good and the stats will follow.....it is as simple as that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[T-F-K] Mydgard Players 237 posts 15,088 battles Report post #16 Posted August 3, 2017 Hi! Sad story, but in WoT I didn't see my stats and only grinded some lines to reach higher tiers. Therefore my stats became so bad/average to it's almost impossible to improve and I cannot join to any good/better organized clan. After this mistake I decided it won't happen again when I started to play WoWs. Basically I like better this game and I feel I'm also better. I concentrate harder, but try don't become a slave of statistic. I see my still growing performance: avg damage, XP, kill ratio, win rate presently almost 55%, it cause happines true. I still don't see my upper limit, but I will reach. Anyway you can improve some of your stats with planned playing of some ships. I think I reach my goal if I become a "green" player, when I can say I'm better than average. It means a little prestige, my words about this game have weight you understand. I think most of the players have some and same ambitions. Am I right? Near stats there are great tasks to complete all weekly quests fully, these are challanges like last time to get the Emden, I done it. I failed with 2500 and 2300 base XP quests, I wasn't enough good, I know. :D And my greatest respect for those who are able to reach Rank 1, my best is R7 till now, but I am on it too, at once march to those 3 stars. Then I can say I made what I wanted to this game. Need aims and plans. Good game for everyone! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BAZI] allufewig Beta Tester 2,912 posts 15,294 battles Report post #17 Posted August 3, 2017 2 hours ago, Tekacko said: Actually using OP ships like the Belfast is bad for farming WTR since you need to perform really good in them to even get unicum stats (since the overall average statistics like damage/wr are high, thus yours need to be even higher. You want to use the "crappiest" (worst overall statistics) ship. Eg a Pensacola, Mahan, Ognevoi, etc, where you can easily get 2 or 3 times the average damage (since the average damage is terribly low on them) Yup. Last time I checked the EU server #1 in Imperator with >100 games was not even unicum. Thats a bit retarded since the best of the best should be unicum by definition, but hey it is WR>WTR anyway. :) Arka B, Texas, Scharnhorst, Belfast or Kamikaze R for example are though as well. Absolutely fantastic for WR farming, even solo, but getting the WTR deep purple is one hell of a difficult task. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXx_Blogis_xXx Alpha Tester, Players 5,335 posts 35,510 battles Report post #18 Posted August 3, 2017 1 hour ago, waxx25 said: Play good and the stats will follow.....it is as simple as that. play solo sure , div stats not special , like waxx have 2k solo games only from 8k ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #19 Posted August 3, 2017 5 minutes ago, xXx_Blogis_xXx said: play solo sure , div stats not special , like waxx have 2k solo games only from 8k ;) Stop seal clubbing in mid tier carriers Blogis, you're making the enemy CV's think about quitting the game 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waxx25 Players 1,296 posts 11,488 battles Report post #20 Posted August 3, 2017 26 minutes ago, xXx_Blogis_xXx said: play solo sure , div stats not special , like waxx have 2k solo games only from 8k ;) yes 2k solo game......how horrible I must be......blame your bad gameplay on more things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #21 Posted August 3, 2017 Ow wait, there is a real pissing match going on here? Who did what in who's cereal first, I need details! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLAST] Armorin [BLAST] Players 763 posts 13,067 battles Report post #22 Posted August 3, 2017 Stats ruin everyones experience and expectations. In order to be average at T1, you have to cause more damage than the highest health pool available on a T1 ship. Quite simply, in order to be average, it is statistically impossible to be average even if every ship dies. Nuff said, apart from DD's that are expected to cap for the team. As a DD, you either do high damage or no damage. Stats are the left behind remnants of horse excrement that has been torped. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BAZI] allufewig Beta Tester 2,912 posts 15,294 battles Report post #23 Posted August 3, 2017 21 minutes ago, Armorin said: Stats ruin everyones experience and expectations. In order to be average at T1, you have to cause more damage than the highest health pool available on a T1 ship. Quite simply, in order to be average, it is statistically impossible to be average even if every ship dies. What kind of nonsense did I just read there?!? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Live85 Weekend Tester 453 posts Report post #24 Posted August 3, 2017 If you're too salty to play alone, play "fun" divisions with clan mates or with people from other clans. TS is almost mandatory. Division up, pick weird ships. No matter how good your stats are, there's always some ships you failed hard with. Revisit them and re-evaluate them now that you're more experienced. Start new grinds together with your clan mates etcetera. Quit using tracking websites and use only your eyeballs on your wows profile, which is the only thing you can't hide from yourself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RJCTS] Boris_MNE Players 1,568 posts 10,303 battles Report post #25 Posted August 3, 2017 5 minutes ago, Live85 said: If you're too salty to play alone, play "fun" divisions with clan mates or with people from other clans. TS is almost mandatory. Division up, pick weird ships. No matter how good your stats are, there's always some ships you failed hard with. Revisit them and re-evaluate them now that you're more experienced. Start new grinds together with your clan mates etcetera. Quit using tracking websites and use only your eyeballs on your wows profile, which is the only thing you can't hide from yourself. Wrong. Tracking can be very good. Stats show you how you are improving your average dmg, kills, surivability... there are some nice graphics too and you can use it for good not for bad. As you said, revisit old ships and see what you have done wrong...why ... etc. Just I feel trackings sites show you more detailed how much you are improving or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites