Nerf bloody carriers, NOW!

[Praetorias]

Might as well focus this style of argument as per the bb thread, to the rightful candidate. Carriers have always been too powerful.   Ow with prem versions and special drops its more so.  Look at the graf zeppelin, 3 cross drops is rediculous..  its not fun if a ship can wipe u put in a sec and you can do nothing about it even if you had good aa.

[Prospect_b]

Pff, such a copycat. At least mine was spelled correctly 

[Praetorias]

14 minutes ago, PzychoPanzer said:

Pff, such a copycat. At least mine was spelled correctly 

I merely try to emulate yout greatness sir, spelling, what spelling ?

[Spuggy]

But a BB can destroy ships in a single volley (excluding a detonation) from a very long range.

 

DD's can destroy ships in a single torpedo volley when ambushed or correctly aimed at a potato from range

 

Cruisers are the only ship type that really struggles to do this but what they get in return is massive damage per minute.

 

A properly executed air strike should be devastating and if you want to avoid it you've gotta do what the yanks did in the Pacific theater. Get closer together and use overlapping fields of AA fire.

[xXx_Blogis_xXx]

48 minutes ago, Praetorias said:

Might as well focus this style of argument as per the bb thread, to the rightful candidate. Carriers have always been too powerful.   Ow with prem versions and special drops its more so.  Look at the graf zeppelin, 3 cross drops is rediculous..  its not fun if a ship can wipe u put in a sec and you can do nothing about it even if you had good aa.

 

dont get me wrong but cruisers from t8+ can do good fire dmg , they not so bad

 will you ask to buff aa to more OP? and asking nerf cv to 10x time?

[WashedandDeceased]

CVs are overpowered? Haven't seen this one in a while..

Do nothing? Perhaps we're playing different games.. 

1. Spec. for AA - problem solved. 

2. If for some reason AA build is not viable - roll with a cruiser. Problem solved

3. Cruisers are already balanced by BB AP? Team up with a battleship. Two AA bubbles is usually enough to mitigate most of the damage. Problem solved

4. Nobody around because you got yourself out of position? Change course and speed to throw off the CV's aim and mitigate damage.

 

Seriously, if you can't do any of the above you deserve to sink

[159Hunter]

Looking at your own performance in CVs OP, I really wonder why you feel they need a nerf?

As for being wiped out in one volley: BB can do this, DD can do this it all depends on the targets' behaviour. Same applies to a CV, he can one strike you if you mess up...

[mtm78]

1 hour ago, Praetorias said:

Might as well focus this style of argument as per the bb thread, to the rightful candidate. Carriers have always been too powerful.   Ow with prem versions and special drops its more so.  Look at the graf zeppelin, 3 cross drops is rediculous..  its not fun if a ship can wipe u put in a sec and you can do nothing about it even if you had good aa.

 

46% win rate in carriers, the lowest of all your classes. 

 

Yup, you're right, looks totally overpowered! 

[Praetorias]

Instead of fanboy kids making stat checks on carriers, open your mind to a valid comment.  Anyone who has played this game has been nuked by carriers you can do nothing to avoid whilst they are at edge of map moving at dd speed.

 

I only play carriers to ruin other carriers games by fitting for fighters.  I am not a good carrier player and yet i can still wipe out a bb with aa protection using op torp runs.

 

instead of being bitchy, try some proper discusion!

[mtm78]

Valid comment excludes facts like performance indicators? 

 

 

7 minutes ago, Praetorias said:

I am not a good carrier player and yet i can still wipe out a bb with aa protection using op torp runs.

 

So a carrier can kill a battleship? Omg, we got to call Serb right now!

 

Here let me help you a bit btw.. notice the patina on this helpful guide; it's a real oldie. But, it really works!

 

[Praetorias]

Will leave the children for now and return when the adults are back from work.  

[mtm78]

What, nothing to proof how OP cv's are? How sad.

[aidenthedestroyer]

So the way I understand this is that you are saying that CVs are Overpowered due to the fact that they one shot you??

All I can say is. LEARN TO DODGE. The only thing from a CV that can kill you is torpedoes. Dive bombers are all RNG based. If you are scared to go against a CV, Hide behind your cruiser.

CVs are yes OP at times but everything has a counter. They have been nerfed in tier 4-5 now you want it to be all tiers?? There are very few carrier players out there and most of them are AS americans because they dont know how to manual drop. The only true threat is the Japanese but they are not seen in vast numbers. So asking for a nerf on a carrier is stupid. Its hard to play as a carrier. Believe me, Its very hard. And to me, they are the most neglected class of ships in this game. The last update, German BBs got secondary buffs. When did a carrier get a buff? (Not considering the premium ones)

Patch 0.6.3 

Removed manual drop for tier 4-5.

Patch 0.7.0

Removed Manual drop for tiers 4-10

There you are!

 

[T0byJug]

Couple of reasons why they are not OP   NO ONE PLAYS THEM

 

CV make up 3.66% of ship brought to battle tier 6-10 With 1 per team per game they should make up 8.3%

OP damage dealers for last 2 weeks

CVs place

Tier 4  5th and 8th with top 3 places going to BB

Tier 5  2nd and 20th with 6 BB in top 10 29 ships at tier and 3 other top 10 taken by OP kamakazee clones

Tier 6 6th and 14th top 5 places all taken by BB

Tier 7 1st 3rd and 8th Tier 7 is a good tier for CV

Tier 8 1st and 4th

Tier 9 1st and 2nd

Tier 10 1st and 3rd

 

So yes at tier 8-10 they become very strong (in the correct hands) But again not rely an issue as they are SOOOO underplayed. As in these tiers they are by a long way the least played ships In the game.

 

AS for cant protect yourself. BB and CA/CL can murder same tier planes and that turning hack helps a lot as well

 

 

[Azalgor]

lol i love these people, make me laugh... I dont play CVs much, but there are times when im completely negated by the enemy team that stays together and there are no solo warriors to punish, while as my team spreads across the map like cockroaches, then ask me why i did not cover them while they got blasted by the enemy CV 1 by 1...and there are games where i get to do the same, and to my surprise, those BB dont even turn, they eat around 90% of the launched torps - and as my plains return i get to hear this - u damn OP CV!

As a BB, well, i do know of a WASD hack that helps a lot, but sometimes getting to choose to show my broadside to 2 enemy BB or eating few torps is rather hard...

Dont play this game much now, as people like the OP are just cancer to this game and for any team, still waiting for a patch that would fix the brains of such people and maybe, just maybe, make this game fun again.

[mtm78]

This guy is just utterly sad though, he want's a 'discussion' but you can't use facts, you should keep it at conjunction so he can better 'proof' his point. 

[beercrazy]

all I see is:

nerf bbs op salvos kill cruisers too easy

nerf dds op torp salvos and too stealthy

nerf cvs op torp and always ruin dd gameplay

nerf cruisers op smoke and ap (only on british cruisers for smoke and ap rest are shite)

 

when I see that I get the feeling its not the ships its the players so lets nerf the players instead and lets make players with over 50% win rate play with 1 hand and eyes closed and then maybe we can make a few people happy

 

[dusan1001]

2 hours ago, Praetorias said:

 its not fun if a ship can wipe u put in a sec and you can do nothing about it

Yea its almost as BB AP

[lycea]

Maybe you shouldnt play alone and instead work together with your team. 

 

Carriers will always seek out the lone sheeps 

[Fat_Maniac]

CV's from what I've seen so far are not the issue.

 

The problem is disparity between the CV players on opposing teams. If one team has a noob and the other an experienced CV player, the noob team is in for a hard time.

 

When you get two noob or two experienced players they tend to balance each other out.

 

And when you have double CV matches you can add in coordinated activity as a similar factor.

[TBNRtom]

1 hour ago, Praetorias said:

Anyone who has played this game has been nuked by carriers you can do nothing to avoid.

 

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So nobody that ever played this game has been nuked by a BB or DD? 

[Donar79]

Naah this fred is just in preparation of the T-Virus consumable of RN BB ....quasi a prepared justification.

[T0byJug]

9 minutes ago, Fat_Maniac said:

CV's from what I've seen so far are not the issue.

 

The problem is disparity between the CV players on opposing teams. If one team has a noob and the other an experienced CV player, the noob team is in for a hard time.

 

When you get two noob or two experienced players they tend to balance each other out.

 

And when you have double CV matches you can add in coordinated activity as a similar factor.

Unfortunately there is not much WG can do about this. In other classes with Multiple ships of each class in a match the odds are they balance out. The necessary 1 CV per game at high tiers and the very low number of high tier CV brought to game make it almost impossible to balance

[Mangrey]

3 hours ago, Praetorias said:

Might as well focus this style of argument as per the bb thread, to the rightful candidate. Carriers have always been too powerful.   Ow with prem versions and special drops its more so.  Look at the graf zeppelin, 3 cross drops is rediculous..  its not fun if a ship can wipe u put in a sec and you can do nothing about it even if you had good aa.

Learn to play ......

 

 

mang 

[_DeathWing_]

Yeah! Protoss carriers are OP. Need a nerf! NOW!!!