[CAIN] G01ngToxicCommand0 Beta Tester 2,177 posts 23,318 battles Report post #1 Posted July 12, 2017 In order to make cruisers more viable it could be a good idea to remove the incentive for battleships to sink them by removing all XP and credit gain battleships receive for sinking cruisers. This way they might sink the cruiser but will only money in doing so. Battleships natural targets should always be other battleships and CVs in that order. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[G_G_G] Helgey Beta Tester 86 posts Report post #2 Posted July 12, 2017 i can see the next post comming up like this: Cruisers should not getting any money/xp for sinking DD's cause most of them have radar / hydro and thats unfair against the DD's Or again the BB skippers wil make a new on the OP of cruisers he spam setting them on fire. I do like running my Cruisers and if you are a good cruiser driver you are able to dodge shells quite often, if your mot to close to the BB's. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #3 Posted July 12, 2017 It is the BBs designed job to sink cruisers.... 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[S-L-C] Turin7 Beta Tester 205 posts 1,407 battles Report post #4 Posted July 12, 2017 Even if I had to pay credits for it, I would still focus cruisers in a BB if given the chance. Main reasons: - one shotting stuff is fun (if you're not on the receiving end) - CAs are dangerous for both you and the team, and their threat level increases exponentially the longer they stay in a match. All in all, pretty obvious b8 m8. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #5 Posted July 12, 2017 12 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: It is the BBs designed job to sink cruisers.... 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[T-N-T] Sigimundus Weekend Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 6,566 posts 16,011 battles Report post #6 Posted July 12, 2017 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] eliastion Players 4,795 posts 12,260 battles Report post #7 Posted July 12, 2017 13 minutes ago, Sigimundus said: I mean, we're talking someone with over 6k battles, over 1,3k posts and decent stats while playing all three non-CV classes almost equally. I really wouldn't expect someone like that to seriously suggesting removal of rewards for the most effective contribution to team victory that BBs are capable of (that is: quickly sinking squishy but high DPS targets). 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KaLeuWillenbrock Players 2,632 posts 3,455 battles Report post #8 Posted July 12, 2017 most of the time, the enemies BBs are not the problem. its the BBs on your own team, who are 5 km behind you, while practicing bow-on "tanking" and "advancing backwards" simultaneously. we need to get in closer, many BBs can shoot over small islands (while hugging them), and overmatch deck and bow armor most of the time. We simply are easier targets. do i like being deleted by random BB salvos? Nope ... but that's a general problem, that can not be solved by not giving rewards. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #9 Posted July 12, 2017 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] G01ngToxicCommand0 Beta Tester 2,177 posts 23,318 battles Report post #10 Posted July 12, 2017 56 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: It is the BBs designed job to sink cruisers.... 42 minutes ago, mtm78 said: That is only because Wargaming wants it to be like that which is a decision I don't believe WG really thought through. IRL battleships primary targets were other battleships and only if no enemy battleships were in LOS or range did they engage other classes of ships with their main battery while the secondaries could always shoot at cruisers and destroyers if in range. It was really a stupid game decision by WG to reward battleships for deleting cruisers as much as they do as the only effect it had is to make windowlicking BBabies do nothing else than shoot at cruisers rather than the enemy's battleships. On the plus side most cruisers can spend 4 to 5 minutes burning down BBabies while listening to the toxic salt from said BBabies. If we want a higher cruiser population it has to come by making battleships earn far less XP and credits for deleting cruisers so that the BB grind will take 3 to 4 times longer if the BBs only target cruisers, so that those BB players that refuse to engage enemy BBs will tire of playing BBs or switch their target priority to BBs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] G01ngToxicCommand0 Beta Tester 2,177 posts 23,318 battles Report post #11 Posted July 12, 2017 38 minutes ago, Sigimundus said: 25 minutes ago, eliastion said: I mean, we're talking someone with over 6k battles, over 1,3k posts and decent stats while playing all three non-CV classes almost equally. I really wouldn't expect someone like that to seriously suggesting removal of rewards for the most effective contribution to team victory that BBs are capable of (that is: quickly sinking squishy but high DPS targets). 17 minutes ago, El2aZeR said: Then we wont ever hear complaints from you three about low cruiser population right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waxx25 Players 1,296 posts 11,488 battles Report post #12 Posted July 12, 2017 Bad troll confirmed, will to troll back not found. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HABIT] Tungstonid Beta Tester 1,568 posts Report post #13 Posted July 12, 2017 6 minutes ago, atomskytten said: IRL battleships primary targets were other battleships I think I spotted your problem. What did or did not happen IRL has nothing to do with what does or does not happen ingame. If you want WoWS to be realistic you should limit your actions to looking at your ships in the port. If WG wants BBs to be the main counter to CAs and balances the game accordingly (if you want to call it that way) then either play along or quit. Or you play as you like and don't shoot at CAs with your BB so you won't get any exp and credits from that. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[T-N-T] Sigimundus Weekend Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 6,566 posts 16,011 battles Report post #14 Posted July 12, 2017 11 minutes ago, atomskytten said: Then we wont ever hear complaints from you three about low cruiser population right? I think that there is to much Cruiser and even players of CA with radar should get ban Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] G01ngToxicCommand0 Beta Tester 2,177 posts 23,318 battles Report post #15 Posted July 12, 2017 9 minutes ago, waxx25 said: Bad troll confirmed, will to troll back not found. ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BRITS] fallenkezef [BRITS] Players 1,788 posts 1,955 battles Report post #16 Posted July 12, 2017 1 hour ago, atomskytten said: In order to make cruisers more viable it could be a good idea to remove the incentive for battleships to sink them by removing all XP and credit gain battleships receive for sinking cruisers. This way they might sink the cruiser but will only money in doing so. Battleships natural targets should always be other battleships and CVs in that order. This is the second most stupid suggestion I have seen on the forums 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #17 Posted July 12, 2017 27 minutes ago, fallenkezef said: This is the second most stupid suggestion I have seen on the forums Just out of curiosity, what was the most stupid one? :D 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robihr Players 3,168 posts 9,352 battles Report post #18 Posted July 12, 2017 57 minutes ago, fallenkezef said: This is the second most stupid suggestion I have seen on the forums you obviously didnt read skybucks suggestions... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_MfZ6T7iwWpUC Players 1,139 posts Report post #19 Posted July 12, 2017 5 minutes ago, El2aZeR said: Just out of curiosity, what was the most stupid one? :D Not one of mine. I do say stupid things from time to time. But then again I am old. But my stupidity is just that......stupid. Battlecruisers came into being with one goal in mind, to hunt down cruisers. Or at least that was the original idea. So the primary goal of a battleship in WoWs is to be the playground bully. Smack everything that is smaller than you, and do it quickly. You do that because it takes as hell of an effort to sink another battleship, especially one at the same tier as you. I have said it before, I will say it again. You have to make cruisers more competitive/attractive to play against battleships. If the only solution to achieving this is to nerf battleships to oblivion, then that is no solution at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OGHF] Cyclops_ Players 2,108 posts 36,213 battles Report post #20 Posted July 12, 2017 Edited This post has been edited by the moderation team due to inappropriate content 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BRITS] fallenkezef [BRITS] Players 1,788 posts 1,955 battles Report post #21 Posted July 12, 2017 22 minutes ago, El2aZeR said: Just out of curiosity, what was the most stupid one? :D Some muppet suggested a global nerf to BBs for no other reason than to make them so bad people would stop playing them as a form of population control. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gekkehenkie50 Beta Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 675 posts 5,845 battles Report post #22 Posted July 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, atlasapl said: Not one of mine. I do say stupid things from time to time. But then again I am old. But my stupidity is just that......stupid. Battlecruisers came into being with one goal in mind, to hunt down cruisers. Or at least that was the original idea. So the primary goal of a battleship in WoWs is to be the playground bully. Smack everything that is smaller than you, and do it quickly. You do that because it takes as hell of an effort to sink another battleship, especially one at the same tier as you. I have said it before, I will say it again. You have to make cruisers more competitive/attractive to play against battleships. If the only solution to achieving this is to nerf battleships to oblivion, then that is no solution at all. So why not just slightly buff all other classes and slightly nerf BBs? No need to nuke anything guys! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flid_Merchant Players 341 posts 6,911 battles Report post #23 Posted July 12, 2017 Doesn't bother me, the XP comes from damage not kills. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] ClappingLollies Players 1,953 posts Report post #24 Posted July 12, 2017 21 minutes ago, Flid_Merchant said: Doesn't bother me, the XP comes from damage not kills. Yet, when a CL/CA gets spotted all the BBs go: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flid_Merchant Players 341 posts 6,911 battles Report post #25 Posted July 12, 2017 6 minutes ago, MortenTardo said: Yet, when a CL/CA gets spotted all the BBs go: I guessed that was what happened in our game earlier... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
