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Yes, I was top3 all of these matches mostly #1 of my team... but still couldnt climb past R17 :(

 

This is todays result, same as yesterday and weekend....

 

Nothing but frustration

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You know why?

 

You play them inferior ships.

 

Buy Fuso, play "normal" in beginning. If you see a decent opening, push. If half your team dies in 5 minutes, play passive and go for that high caliber & keep your star...

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1 minute ago, flyingfinn said:

As you can see I have a Fuso... still losses after losses

Missed that one. Is only one game though.

 

Whatever you do, in this ranked meta, I wouldn't take those citadelmagnets cruisers.

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Couple of hints:

 

1) Know yourself and when you start tilting. Stop playing before that happens. With me the limit is 3. If I lose 3 matches in a row (top exp or not), I know I'm going to be too pissed to play properly in the following games. So I stop. Log out, do something else, come back later.

2) Chose one or two ships that you are best at and stick to them. Don't play a different ship every match, because it will throw your instinct off track, making you aim worse/slower, misjudge your speed and your agility, etc.

3) Do what I say, not what I do. If you ever see me in ranked I'll be the most toxic salty [edited]you can imagine, so don't follow that example.

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31 minutes ago, PzychoPanzer said:

 

Whatever you do, in this ranked meta, I wouldn't take those citadelmagnets cruisers.

Use Cleveland, find island waifu, propose and have lots of little IFHE children.

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10 minutes ago, Aotearas said:

Use Cleveland, find island waifu, propose and have lots of little IFHE children.

Fuso launches adulterer plane, and seduces waifu island to swallow glorious AP gametes.

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50 minutes ago, PzychoPanzer said:

You know why?

 

You play them inferior ships.

 

Buy Fuso, play "normal" in beginning. If you see a decent opening, push. If half your team dies in 5 minutes, play passive and go for that high caliber & keep your star...

basicly promoting crap play what every crap fuso player is doing sigh

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1 minute ago, lameoll said:

basicly promoting crap play what every crap fuso player is doing sigh

I know. I started with dds myself but got tired of seeing camping bb get the star on a loss. If you can't beat them, join em. Doesn't mean I like it but I would like it even less if I would be parked in rank 13 for the next weeks.

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Fuso launches plane, takes aim, fires, misses, gets burned down, curses all game long.

Srsly, I admire those who are able to use Fuso. I prefer ships that hit where I aim instead of having 12x 14" guns spaying shells in the general direction I am looking. Ships such as Warspite. Or even Mutsu. Bayern is yet to be tested but even her stats are more appealing to me than Fuso's.

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If you have the warspite she is unstoppable you just have to be mindful of you positioning. Failing that new mexico in easy to play well in , and obviously there for arizona. Faragut should really mostly be used as support to smoke up your bbs. Its detection makes it difficult to contest caps cause you will be spotted and focused down. Budyoney is rather effective if you spec it to start fires and stay mobile and angeld. It has really nive guns that are nice and accurate.

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15 minutes ago, _Kyoshi said:

Fuso launches plane, takes aim, fires, misses, gets burned down, curses all game long.

Srsly, I admire those who are able to use Fuso. I prefer ships that hit where I aim instead of having 12x 14" guns spaying shells in the general direction I am looking. Ships such as Warspite. Or even Mutsu. Bayern is yet to be tested but even her stats are more appealing to me than Fuso's.

Dont even bother, bayern has TERRIBLE accuracy

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Can't be any worse than Fuso. I remember having fun with Bayern when I grinded her. I was not very good with her but she wasn't a bad ship either.

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1 minute ago, _Kyoshi said:

Can't be any worse than Fuso. I remember having fun with Bayern when I grinded her. I was not very good with her but she wasn't a bad ship either.

Better than Fusou at closer range, but at longer range that shotgun spread will land more hits on target.

So I guess if you gotta chose one it depends on your playstyle.

I've ot had the pleasure of using a QE class so I couldnt tell you how warspite plays

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24 minutes ago, PzychoPanzer said:

Fuso launches adulterer plane, and seduces waifu island to swallow glorious AP gametes.

Not if you're either undetected (duh) or if you hug the island close enough to just barely get your shells over it. Unless the Fusou is far away, it won't be able to hit you if the island is sufficiently high (which of course should be the case, don't go for A cup islands, gotta have some substance on your waifu!).

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Common issue on Rank OP. It's the main reason why I always quit for that and never reached R1 ever. I see you already used the trick to diversify on chosen ships. Another few are: wait it out some time after losing a game: in your row I see you jumped in match after match immediately. If you were in a "potato team" chances are high they jumped in right away as well. Just hold on for 10 or 30 minutes. Don't do a Random in the mean time: or you'll be catching up with the same potatoes again.

Also Rank has even got less to do with naval tactics, ships shooting at each other and out maneuvring as Randoms even have. It's all about winning. And capping asap. My advice is to chose as much of an "allround ship" as possible. Molotov? It's too situational. Granted: in the right situation I'd trade a Molotov over any ship with it's T9 guns. I could foresee a role for it in Rank but only when staying real low profile in the opening through midmatch phases. Should their BB's are gone and they have DD's and your team doesn't you can charge in. Wasting their DD's is a picknick. Look at them funny and make the sea boil by their burning carcasses. Same goes for their cruisers with your stalinium AP shells. But otherwise, meh. You'll be deleted by BB's looking funny at you with your non existing armor (even painting the ship to quad the armor values doesn't help much), it's AA is silly as well and you'll be the sea boiler when focussed out with your Mt Everest concealment. Duca? I am simply not able to make this ship function. Though I'm highly in love with its sheer beauty and speed. For me: "itta goesa boom!!" very easily.

BB wise: IMO Fuso is to nimble for rank. To high dispersion values and you need an alomst perfect broadside to bring all your guns to bear. I'd recommend NM or Bayern. Both for their ability to take an unholy beating and get away with it. NM for the AA and B for the speed. Cruisers: my choices are Cleveland or Buddyonny. On par with all concealments but Cleveland for it's AA and Bud for it's shells. Leander could be a good choice if you can make it to function as a "cruiser-DD hybrid." But for me the main downside will always be the, IMO ridiculous absence of HE on it. DD's for me: Shinonome (can kick my 18 point Shima captain on it). Granted not optimal torp arcs but it can make any fellow DD's take you serious in a knife fight: running away you still can bring 66% firepower to bear. Fubuki is IMO a good choice as well. Use it mainly as a scout ship. Should you own it: Anshan is a hell of a DD as well. Being quite the same role as Leander (cruiser-DD hybrid). With the "hybrids" I mean those ships can pretty well stand their ground against both cruisers and DD's (in a 1 on 1). I haven't really tried La Gal and Aoba because my captains are too low in skill. But I think they can play a decent role as well. Can't give any CV advice because I don't like CV play.

Nurnberg? I wouldn't know. Like Faggagut I haven't played those ships since I've grinded them out. I know F was a real PIA for me. I didn't like that ship in the least bit. I know: that's me. But I couldn't make it to function even if my life was depending on it. Graf Spee? FFS do it right and take a real BB! Warspite? Haven't used that. So no opinion there.

I've reached 15 now. Already quite happy with that result: I have gained the 5% discount flag and boatloads of signals. I didn't use any signal or premium con at all. They only make me lazy and less sharp. Getting there was a blast. I had the luck of awesome teams but I have the feeling I did contribute very much myself. Not sure if I want to continue on. Like your problem I tempt to get frustrated very easily in rank battles. And I play this game to have fun. (= Play2win). And that's were all previous editions made me quit before it even started well.

I know I haven't reviewed all T6's. Don't feel like typing more TBH.

 

 

Edit: couldn't hold back my curiosity and peeked at your stats. Note I'm the village idiot around here regarding numbers. Regardless I highly recommend you take out Buddyonny and Aoba for a couple of rounds in Rank... Buy them back if necessary.

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1 hour ago, SinkTheOthersNotMe said:

Same here OP, dropping ranked as it seems full of tomato teams.

You can take a farragut, leander, cleveland or whatever and you can do amazingly well and still lose.

Errm... Looking at your stats, it seems like you played 7 matches this season, and won 3 of them. Seriously, ONE MATCH going differently than it went could take you from 43% winrate to 57%. You literally had some bad luck in the first few matches and that's it... Although if you feel like that in this situation, the decision to give up Ranked is probably the correct one - if you get frustrated now, imagine what would happen at the tough Ranks where every defeat really hurts...

 

And as for OP... I'm sorry, OP, but your Random stats are below 49% over more than 5k battles. I'm sorry to say this, but - most likely - you just don't carry your team. You probably more or less carry your own weight and have some bad luck to keep you losing so consistently but the underlying cause for lack of performance isn't just that your teams are bad - it's that if they're slightly worse than the enemy average, you're very unlikely to tip things in your favor. From the looks of your stats it would seem that you do a lot of shooting on enemy BBs, getting good hit% and decent damage but almost no kills - BBs just are able to take it, so your whole effort doesn't really reduce enemy fighting potential significantly. In the end I'm afraid that your contribution, while enough to generate solid XP for you (ensuring place in top half of the team table) doesn't do much to really help your team emerge victorious.

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every season in this retarded game is the same - unicom team vs retard team and it is like that game after game, 80% of games will end 7:0  or 7:2  - how retard you have to be not to see that

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A lot of ppl like Fuso and have success but I think she sucks. Huge ship with mediocre armour (good vs HE however) and fairly poor guns on pen and dispersion but they reload fast and you have 12 dice rolls... A Warspite will eat a Fuso if the abilities are equal as 15" guns dominate T6. Bayern is trash as the guns are a poor man's Warspite ones with derp dispersion. 

 

If you really want to use BBs watch Flamu's latest Arizona Ranked video. He gives you the template, the rest is up to your own ability. 

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13 minutes ago, VooDooZG said:

every season in this retarded game is the same - unicom team vs retard team and it is like that game after game, 80% of games will end 7:0  or 7:2  - how retard you have to be not to see that

 

That's because of the landslide meta. If your DDs suck then it's pretty much GG most of the time as you lose your Primary smokers and spotters. The rest of the team will usually follow. 

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it is because most retarded MM of any game and this game will die because of that - you will have lets say 5 8.9 payers in one team and 2 random vs 5 5.2 players on other team + 2 random and it is always like this - this game have all tools for making normal, fair MM so we could all have great competitivity but NO  - so i don't have will or power to go though same crap again, I will uninstall this crap again and now it will be game over for me for any WG game in future ..

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4 minutes ago, VooDooZG said:

it is because most retarded MM of any game and this game will die because of that - you will have lets say 5 8.9 payers in one team and 2 random vs 5 5.2 players on other team + 2 random and it is always like this - this game have all tools for making normal, fair MM so we could all have great competitivity but NO  - so i don't have will or power to go though same crap again, I will uninstall this crap again and now it will be game over for me for any WG game in future ..

You just pull all this data straight out of your butt and you don't even bother to try and understand when someone literally tries to explain to you how this works. But if it's how you describe it, please do tell me: how is it possible that the best Ranked players finish with around 60% Ranked winrate? After all them being so good should automatically mean that almost always end up in the good teams VS potatoes. So their WR% should be closer to 80-90%. Somehow it's not the case, though. But, if that happens, then - surprise surprise - PERHAPS it's not that MM just regularly stuffs bad players into one team and good to the other? Maybe, just maybe, landslides do instead happen because once you gain advantage, it's easier to use it to increase that advantage, compared to how difficult it is to catch up once you fall behind in both points (so it's you who needs to push) and ships (so that enemy has more firepower)?

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Op - just stick with it - take a days break, look at your ships. I'm not the best ship on the pond by any measure, but pick and play those that are effective at helping/making/creating a win. It does show.

My season so far - slowly narrowed down to those that I can make work (Gnevy took a while as i enjoy that ship).

PZSD506.png Anshan 6 DD pan_asia.svg Pan-Asia 14 64.29% 19,126 1,434 1.0 0.6 0.1 43% 52% 4% 823
PBSC106.png Leander 6 CA/CL uk.svg UK 13 69.23% 30,630 1,449 1.1 0.7 0.4 38% 34% 7% 997
PASC007.png Cleveland 6 CA/CL usa.svg USA 9 55.56% 30,591 1,307 0.5 0.3 2.2 33% 27% 0% 920
PJSD106.png Fubuki 6 DD japan_wows.svg Japan 8 62.50% 6,621 977 0.1 0.1 0.0 13% 45% 2% 495
PRSD206.png Gnevny 6 DD ussr.svg USSR 6 16.67% 11,936 1,228 0.2 0.2 0.0 17% 45% 0% 486
PGSC106.png Nürnberg 6 CA/CL germany.svg Germany 6 66.67% 37,799 1,485 0.6 0.5 0.0 17% 34% 0% 1,232
PUSC506.png Perth 6 CA/CL commonwealth.svg commonwealth 5 60.00% 25,604 1,275 1.0 0.8 1.2 20% 37% 8% 986
PFSC506.png De Grasse 6 CA/CL france.svg France 4 75.00% 19,705 1,108 0.3 0.3 0.3 0% 29% 0% 682
PGSB106.png Bayern 6 BB germany.svg Germany 3 0.00% 39,631 794 0.0 0.0 0.3 0% 35% 0% 466
PBSB002.png Warspite 6 BB uk.svg UK 3 66.67% 45,106 1,307 0.5 0.3 0.3 33% 28% 0% 884
PASB034.png New Mexico 6 BB usa.svg USA 3 33.33% 50,427 1,217 0.0 0.0 0.3 0% 25% 0% 788
PFSB506.png Dunkerque 6 BB france.svg France 2 50.00% 41,515 1,207 0.5 0.5 0.5 0% 24% 0% 782

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