shockinhockin Beta Tester 449 posts 3,291 battles Report post #1 Posted July 3, 2017 Hi there chaps so WG have now put up on there July update the names of the British battleships that are coming to the game soon (well hurrah with highly polished brass nobs on! ) anyhow i I noticed a ships called monarch and after some digging about it appears to be a KGV class with a fake name and 14" guns at tier 7 my question is this what's up with that and what do you think of it? Personally if they want KGV at t8 with 15" upgrade then why in the name of all that is holy would you not call this t7 historically accurate version of the ship the prince of wales or duke of York etc and not just make a name up out of knowhere?? maybe it's just me but it seems daft to go to that length to get the historical gun set up into the game and then fall at the last second by giving it a made up name when they had 4 other names to choose from that existed!?! I dont know am i beening picky or is this just plane odd?? Thoughts gentlemen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WestyII Players 335 posts 3,365 battles Report post #2 Posted July 3, 2017 I personally would find it disgusting, and it may be the last nail in WoWS's coffin for me. Why on earth would you make up a name for a ship that existed? Hoping it is a placeholder name, whilst they decide between PoW and DoY. A KGV at Tier 7 seems a little powerful though. IRL the 14" guns did enough damage to Bismarck and Scharnhorst. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RNSF] Smudge014 Players 10 posts 34,863 battles Report post #3 Posted July 3, 2017 I agree, its just WG at there best mate, to call historically accurate ship by a fake name when they have a choice of 4 real ones, its not odd there British!!!!! we know what WG think of Brits 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shockinhockin Beta Tester 449 posts 3,291 battles Report post #4 Posted July 3, 2017 Good I thought so. its bizzar isn't it I mean A.... don't do it it's not needed B ... if you are going to use a fake name surly you call the 14" set up the KGV and the 15" fictional ser up the monarch. Don't mix them up that's just stupid surly ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[72] mikelight1805 [72] Beta Tester 453 posts 14,842 battles Report post #5 Posted July 3, 2017 I am hoping its a place holder, but i am not sure why it would be, unless they were planing something else for the future regarding premiums and Doy/PoW. Its poor in my humble and otherwise worthless opinion 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shockinhockin Beta Tester 449 posts 3,291 battles Report post #6 Posted July 3, 2017 Well il hold my hope with you good sir and hope for this being a place holder as if that's what they are doing I can't fathom the thought process at all and plea to WG to listen to the brits in this one 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[72] mikelight1805 [72] Beta Tester 453 posts 14,842 battles Report post #7 Posted July 3, 2017 I am hoping they cant decide between the names, but i doubt this as we are getting quite near release. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] T0byJug Quality Poster 5,358 posts 25,533 battles Report post #8 Posted July 3, 2017 Nothing to see here.... 1st please search the forum this has already been talked about. Lots They are testing KGV at tier 7. Just the same as when the brought out The IJN and RU navy DD tech tree changes the DD's in there new positions were Put there for testing with false names. Wargaming did not use a real name of a KGV class BB as if they did all would assume its a Full legitimate and definat ship that is coming to game at tier 7. Fictitious name make it clear that at this point it is testing. All we can surmise from this is 1st they are struggling to make KGV work at tier 8 2snd. WG may actually be listening to the player base and looking at ways to implement the ship with the historical guns and not resort to the 15inch guns that not many people want. I realy wish people would take a moment to think things through before they post 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BAZI] allufewig Beta Tester 2,912 posts 15,294 battles Report post #9 Posted July 3, 2017 16 minutes ago, Smudge014 said: I agree, its just WG at there best mate, to call historically accurate ship by a fake name when they have a choice of 4 real ones, its not odd there British!!!!! we know what WG think of Brits Yeah yeah. Also WG hates the japanese, the french, the americans, the aussies, the dutch (why no dutch ship???!), the italians and ofc, *hate intensifies*, the germans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[T-N-T] Sigimundus Weekend Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 6,566 posts 16,011 battles Report post #10 Posted July 3, 2017 So you mean that this official text from WG where they announced that there will be British BB with name Monarch is only trolling post? Which ships are coming? Bellerophon Orion Iron Duke Queen Elizabeth King George V Nelson Monarch Lion Conqueror https://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/common/too-hot-to-handle/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] T0byJug Quality Poster 5,358 posts 25,533 battles Report post #11 Posted July 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, Sigimundus said: So you mean that this official text from WG where they announced that there will be British BB with name Monarch is only trolling post? Which ships are coming? Bellerophon Orion Iron Duke Queen Elizabeth King George V Nelson Monarch Lion Conqueror https://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/common/too-hot-to-handle/ FOR TESTING Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[T-N-T] Sigimundus Weekend Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 6,566 posts 16,011 battles Report post #12 Posted July 3, 2017 HSF Harekaze and HSF Admiral Graf Spee will be there also only for testing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] T0byJug Quality Poster 5,358 posts 25,533 battles Report post #13 Posted July 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, Sigimundus said: HSF Harekaze and HSF Admiral Graf Spee will be there also only for testing? At the moment Yes.. Though we know from a little further down there Post that as we have a mission for them starting 10th of July we probably get the ships this month. RN BBs are in testing and are probably a few patches away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #14 Posted July 3, 2017 Folk need to chill. It's only a name, I'd rather have a competitive ship that's got a silly name. Although I can't see WG having a fake name ship when there are real names they could give out. They haven't done this for anything that isn't paper yet anyway... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[T-N-T] Sigimundus Weekend Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 6,566 posts 16,011 battles Report post #15 Posted July 3, 2017 Are you sure? I read that they come in patch 0.6.8 (for super-testers and streamers) and in 0.6.9 for normal people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] T0byJug Quality Poster 5,358 posts 25,533 battles Report post #16 Posted July 3, 2017 7 minutes ago, Sigimundus said: Are you sure? I read that they come in patch 0.6.8 (for super-testers and streamers) and in 0.6.9 for normal people. well thats 2 patches..... Also there are already here for SP (well at least the tier 6-10) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shockinhockin Beta Tester 449 posts 3,291 battles Report post #17 Posted July 3, 2017 47 minutes ago, T0byJug said: Nothing to see here.... 1st please search the forum this has already been talked about. Lots They are testing KGV at tier 7. Just the same as when the brought out The IJN and RU navy DD tech tree changes the DD's in there new positions were Put there for testing with false names. Wargaming did not use a real name of a KGV class BB as if they did all would assume its a Full legitimate and definat ship that is coming to game at tier 7. Fictitious name make it clear that at this point it is testing. All we can surmise from this is 1st they are struggling to make KGV work at tier 8 2snd. WG may actually be listening to the player base and looking at ways to implement the ship with the historical guns and not resort to the 15inch guns that not many people want. I realy wish people would take a moment to think things through before they post I fail to see the need for this attitude of yours that you seem to have here. Everyone else seems to be able to respond in a civilised way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WestyII Players 335 posts 3,365 battles Report post #18 Posted July 3, 2017 Toby is of course correct, they are in testing, and Monarch is likely a placeholder... However, I would rather see the forums alight with indignation about the ridiculous name, so WG name the ship properly, than have the ship implemented in its current state. I have to say it is weird that they list the ships like that without explanation, as it is bound to cause wild speculation. Surely it would be easier to call the ship 7KGV and 8KGV? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shockinhockin Beta Tester 449 posts 3,291 battles Report post #19 Posted July 3, 2017 Now if it is indeed just for testing it seems that I was not the only one that has not found that fact very clear. But bad attitude aside il take the info you have provided and hang fire and see what they finalise. I was just interested to see what others thought on the matter. I or anyone else for that matter gets no benefit at all from that bold red type attitude thing you have going there. Doesn't really help anyone does it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #20 Posted July 3, 2017 Just now, WestyII said: I have to say it is weird that they list the ships like that without explanation, as it is bound to cause wild speculation. Surely it would be easier to call the ship 7KGV and 8KGV? They could just call the T7 ship the one that got sunk (PoW?) And the T8 one KGV with some hypothetical upgrades? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[T-N-T] Sigimundus Weekend Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 6,566 posts 16,011 battles Report post #21 Posted July 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, T0byJug said: well thats 2 patches..... Also there are already here for SP (well at least the tier 6-10) Not exactly because if they comes to regular server (even for super-tester) then there will not be radical change as different tier or different name. 1 minute ago, WestyII said: Toby is of course correct, they are in testing, and Monarch is likely a placeholder... However, I would rather see the forums alight with indignation about the ridiculous name, so WG name the ship properly, than have the ship implemented in its current state. I have to say it is weird that they list the ships like that without explanation, as it is bound to cause wild speculation. Surely it would be easier to call the ship 7KGV and 8KGV? Why is Monarch ridiculous name? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] T0byJug Quality Poster 5,358 posts 25,533 battles Report post #22 Posted July 3, 2017 1 minute ago, WestyII said: Toby is of course correct, they are in testing, and Monarch is likely a placeholder... However, I would rather see the forums alight with indignation about the ridiculous name, so WG name the ship properly, than have the ship implemented in its current state. I have to say it is weird that they list the ships like that without explanation, as it is bound to cause wild speculation. Surely it would be easier to call the ship 7KGV and 8KGV? But This is what they do. when they move ships.. They give them fictitious names till they know where they are placing them. Just what they did with the DD splits. We know non real names are place holders 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WestyII Players 335 posts 3,365 battles Report post #23 Posted July 3, 2017 No kick off now! No point complaining when its too late, as WG are stubborn. Complain early! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[T-N-T] Sigimundus Weekend Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 6,566 posts 16,011 battles Report post #24 Posted July 3, 2017 1 minute ago, Negativvv said: They could just call the T7 ship the one that got sunk (PoW?) And the T8 one KGV with some hypothetical upgrades? You mean the Prince of Walls which was sunk by Japanese planes? This ship will be with very high probability premium one. 1 minute ago, T0byJug said: But This is what they do. when they move ships.. They give them fictitious names till they know where they are placing them. Just what they did with the DD splits. We know non real names are place holders The fictitious names were only for already existing ships in tech tree which were re-balanced not for completely new ships added to the game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] T0byJug Quality Poster 5,358 posts 25,533 battles Report post #25 Posted July 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, shockinhockin said: Now if it is indeed just for testing it seems that I was not the only one that has not found that fact very clear. But bad attitude aside il take the info you have provided and hang fire and see what they finalise. I was just interested to see what others thought on the matter. I or anyone else for that matter gets no benefit at all from that bold red type attitude thing you have going there. Doesn't really help anyone does it Thats my point old chap..It was not clear and there has been Lots of Posts about the Move to tier 7 and name change, and on these other threads we pretty much agreed on the conclusion I posted here. WG have not released any ships that were actuly launched with fictitious names so why would they start know..... EDIT.. Just wait for my rage thread if they do make me look stupid for supporting WG if they do release her with a name of HMS Monarch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites