waxx25 Players 1,296 posts 11,488 battles Report post #1 Posted July 3, 2017 I started the season with my old-school favorite, the Cleveland and I must say........it is an absolute monster. With IFHE it basically poops fire at the enemies (deep,penetrating, laugh at your deck armor type of fire). That is until I hit the rank 10-5 and realised that everyone was in a BB and my Cleveland got focused out of existance every match. I tried the Shinonome and it was just boring, not a carry-the-potatoes on your team kind of boat. So sadly i have have been forced to play the Fuso.......match starts.....drive about 2km towards target, angle and stop, just to spam AP and HE for the rest of the match. Just plain boring. Tier 6 meta is garbage IMO. Tier 8 or maybe even tier 9 would have been interesting but whatever, this is the last season for me to get my Flint and then I am done with this "Ranked" (misuse of the word if you ask me since it has nothing to do with ranking). Update. I have stopped playing the Fuso as my primary ranked ship because it just too boring to sit in one spot spamming. I have decided to go back to the Cleveland and even though every BB out there gets an orgasm when you are spotted it is much more rewarding to play. Learning patience (Mind blown for my gamestyle) and taking risks comes with amazing rewards. Mostly though it is exciting to play it because any mistake is deletion by a BB baby but when no mistakes are made it is rewrading gameplay where you break 100k dmg regularly and carry your team to victory. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[XBGX] _VAMPA_ Players 747 posts 16,618 battles Report post #2 Posted July 3, 2017 this is what im explaing from a month lmao T6 = no versatility T6 is for 23-15 ranks not 10 and below its total BS will be good if WG say that they made a mistake and after hot patch we get 10-1@T8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FFP] IsamuKondera Supertest Coordinator, Modder 1,365 posts 13,372 battles Report post #3 Posted July 3, 2017 11 minutes ago, Bat_Vampi said: this is what im explaing from a month lmao T6 = no versatility T6 is for 23-15 ranks not 10 and below its total BS will be good if WG say that they made a mistake and after hot patch we get 10-1@T8 I'm not sure if a change for T8 would be kinda good. Some people that started, that reached rank 7 and suddenly can't climb anymore because the yodn't own a T8 will feel kinda bad for such a change. T8 is there anyway as soon as y reach rank1. I agree that T6 feels flat but a tier change is kinda stupid now. For the reason stated before and for the reason that some people payed with doubs to get their T8 caps retrained for their T6 ships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[XBGX] _VAMPA_ Players 747 posts 16,618 battles Report post #4 Posted July 3, 2017 6 minutes ago, MasaruKondera said: I'm not sure if a change for T8 would be kinda good. Some people that started, that reached rank 7 and suddenly can't climb anymore because the yodn't own a T8 will feel kinda bad for such a change. T8 is there anyway as soon as y reach rank1. I agree that T6 feels flat but a tier change is kinda stupid now. For the reason stated before and for the reason that some people payed with doubs to get their T8 caps retrained for their T6 ships. you believe that some one that yet dont grind his [edited]to T8 atm is at r7 ? well t6 is so wasted that i didnt retrain even single 19p cap there is enough 10-14ps lol well rest of us feels bad because cant pick a playable ship lol no matter all t6 ships are in port everything feels same Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waxx25 Players 1,296 posts 11,488 battles Report post #5 Posted July 3, 2017 tier 6 is just very static gameplay. I dare say that tier 7 with its belfasts, fijis, nagatos and shiratsyu's made for more dynamic gameplay. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TU] urr027 Players 205 posts 11,581 battles Report post #6 Posted July 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Bat_Vampi said: this is what im explaing from a month lmao T6 = no versatility T6 is for 23-15 ranks not 10 and below its total BS will be good if WG say that they made a mistake and after hot patch we get 10-1@T8 I disagree. If you reached a higher rank last season you cannot even play ranks 23-15. IMO T6 is a welcome change from the smoke and radar infested T7 of the last season. I'm not against T7 or T8 ranked but just for the sake of variation T6 is good. I'd even like to see T5 ranked someday. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_EFwxJOPWzlER Players 1,473 posts Report post #7 Posted July 3, 2017 T6 is the most boring tier I will finish this ranked season then move over to Cold Waters. Random is too boring, the game needs a new permanent game mode,i think team battles should return but it has been gone a long time. I purchased my final premium time for ranked and that is enough for me, but will possibly return for the next ranked season I agree wit OP though, T6 for ranked is possibly the worst choice, T7 not much better. Maybe T8 or T9 would be the best choices, and maybe less DD's going yolo to caps and getting deleted in the first couple of minutes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[A77] WashedandDeceased Players 891 posts 20,781 battles Report post #8 Posted July 3, 2017 Having played ranked a couple times now I must say T6 feels less exciting than T7 and T8. I tried various options (Anshan, Shinonome, Budyonny, De Grasse, Arizona, Warspite) before switching to Fuso: 1. Find a favorable position 2. Angle 3. ??? 4. Profit I thought I would mainly play cruisers, but the sheer amount of citadels I ate while kiting away angled made me question that decision. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bicio Beta Tester 71 posts 5,073 battles Report post #9 Posted July 3, 2017 My dream is to see a ranked at tier 3 and then finish at Tier 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
creamgravy Players 2,780 posts 17,292 battles Report post #10 Posted July 3, 2017 Just Leander stuff. Blame the maps and domination game mode, not the tier. Tier 6 is great apart from Cleveland/CV balance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KLUNJ] beercrazy [KLUNJ] Beta Tester 1,509 posts 11,905 battles Report post #11 Posted July 3, 2017 got to agree its boring as hell and lots and lots of static games where either your team or the enemy seem to avoid engagement like the plague Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[72] mikelight1805 [72] Beta Tester 453 posts 14,842 battles Report post #12 Posted July 3, 2017 I am seeing a much poorer calibre of player this season. Potatoes turning up in Gnevny's, Graf Spee's and Nurnbergs all derping about. I honestly found last season at T7 better. I actually left the Belfast in port and set out in the fabulous Fiji and it was much more fun. I certainly am not feeling it this season. I would like a return to the old days with lower ranks at tier 6 then tier 8 at the higher ranks. at least then would be a bit of verity to look forward to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[XODUS] JaiFoh Players 799 posts 4,868 battles Report post #13 Posted July 3, 2017 Seeing alot of BB's this season such far, no chance of me as a casual gamer to reach Rank 1 so trying to break into single figures this year is all i am trying to do. BB's seem to be acknowledging the rule of "suffer not the cruiser to live" so anyone in a cruiser gets focused fire in first minutes if spotted. i was taking up a position by an island in my Cleveland (only cruiser), got spotted immediately priority target lit up with 6 ships. All ahead Full and ram the island for cover, still lost 1/3rd of my health but the island took a pounding for the next few minutes, one of the BB's complimented me for tanking damage for about 2 minutes as they tried to get me out from behind the island. I'd like to see progression through ranks again, starting off at T5 until like Rank 12, then T6 to rank 7 or so and then T7/T8 for Ranks 7 to 1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VC381 Players 2,928 posts 6,549 battles Report post #14 Posted July 3, 2017 Haven't climbed that high yet but I'm finding T6 very balanced and with decent variety. T7 last time was absolutely horrible. T6 seems to have the biggest variety of usable ships and the best balance between premium and silver ships. It feels pretty fun to me so far, I like it! T8 could be OK as well, but I doubt they'll change it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MIMI] Kruzenstern Beta Tester 1,133 posts 5,975 battles Report post #15 Posted July 3, 2017 One problem with Tier6 is that there are too many good BBs and too few good DDs (or actually none?)... It would be a lot more interesting if I could take my Kamikaze for example than the sad excuses for jap DDs we have on tier 6... And of course the BB-heavy meta making life extremely hard for cruisers. But tier8 wouldn't be much better, smoke-heavy meta and too many great DDs (like, Benson, Benson and Benson)... That is boring as well imho. What I would like to see is ranked for divisions, but I guess that is a vain hope... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waxx25 Players 1,296 posts 11,488 battles Report post #16 Posted July 3, 2017 11 minutes ago, Kruzenstern said: One problem with Tier6 is that there are too many good BBs and too few good DDs (or actually none?)... It would be a lot more interesting if I could take my Kamikaze for example than the sad excuses for jap DDs we have on tier 6... And of course the BB-heavy meta making life extremely hard for cruisers. But tier8 wouldn't be much better, smoke-heavy meta and too many great DDs (like, Benson, Benson and Benson)... That is boring as well imho. What I would like to see is ranked for divisions, but I guess that is a vain hope... vain enough that i didnt bother mentioning it. We can only hope. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raziel_Walker Players 463 posts 8,787 battles Report post #17 Posted July 3, 2017 Cruisers get elminated because they can't stay as far back as BB's that are camping at max range to evade torps. I am surprised by the diversity in ships though, people play Graf Spee and other sub-par ships at very rank. Guess ships are close enough in balance that personal preference and playstyle is more important as just having slightly better stats. As an IJN DD player I have to say that the Fubuki guns just plain suck, it really needs an additional turret to be competetive. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PseudoMi Players 607 posts 7,274 battles Report post #18 Posted July 3, 2017 20 minutes ago, Kruzenstern said: And of course the BB-heavy meta making life extremely hard for cruisers. Open-sea naive cruisers, maybe. But cruisers hidden behind islands spamming HE like no tomorrow, are untouchable. And THIS is the Meta of actual Ranked. How could this be a hard life ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gekkehenkie50 Beta Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 675 posts 5,845 battles Report post #19 Posted July 3, 2017 I find graf spee to hold her own against BBs. Go bow in and bait their shots onto your belt (not bow, Graf's bow gets overmatched by 356). Then launch your torpedoes, but do it while they fire their broadside, using Graf's arcs to surprise them, do not make it obvious that you launched your torpedoes. Keep firing 4K AP Salvos into their broadsides with your frontal turret and that + 4 torpedo hits is usually enough to sink a BB. Say there are too many? Well, dont engage them, kite away, you can dodge shells with relative ease that this tier. And if you see an enemy cruiser/destroyer... Cruiser in the eyes of Graf Spee = LUNCH DD in the eyes of Graf Spee (Note, firing AP at them when they try to run away from your sonar) = A nice side dish Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ParEx Weekend Tester, In AlfaTesters 1,449 posts 7,711 battles Report post #20 Posted July 3, 2017 26 minutes ago, Kruzenstern said: One problem with Tier6 is that there are too many good BBs and too few good DDs (or actually none?)... It would be a lot more interesting if I could take my Kamikaze for example than the sad excuses for jap DDs we have on tier 6... And of course the BB-heavy meta making life extremely hard for cruisers. But tier8 wouldn't be much better, smoke-heavy meta and too many great DDs (like, Benson, Benson and Benson)... That is boring as well imho. What I would like to see is ranked for divisions, but I guess that is a vain hope... Yep, as a main CA player I feel like a XP Pinata most of the time. Only useable *tactic* is to take Cleve, hide behind island and spam IFHE. Rewarding? Sometimes. Fun? Meh. Will try BB myself, reach Rank 10 if possible and skip ranked until next season as usual. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyllon Players 2,588 posts Report post #21 Posted July 3, 2017 3 hours ago, urr027 said: I disagree. If you reached a higher rank last season you cannot even play ranks 23-15. IMO T6 is a welcome change from the smoke and radar infested T7 of the last season. I'm not against T7 or T8 ranked but just for the sake of variation T6 is good. I'd even like to see T5 ranked someday. T7 offered more variety in terms of ships and ships that - what is most important IMO - are more fun to play. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VC381 Players 2,928 posts 6,549 battles Report post #22 Posted July 3, 2017 31 minutes ago, Raziel_Walker said: As an IJN DD player I have to say that the Fubuki guns just plain suck, it really needs an additional turret to be competetive. That's what Shinonome is for! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SLAPP] lameoll Players 1,792 posts 10,834 battles Report post #23 Posted July 3, 2017 maybe they should implement ship pickin in before the ranked match lik u do in league of legends. 1cv 2bb,s 2 cruisers 2 dds 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] eliastion Players 4,795 posts 12,260 battles Report post #24 Posted July 3, 2017 The problem with t6 is that this tier sucks :P In Randoms I play t5 ships, I play t7 ships, but there's not one t6 ship I would really enjoy, they are all SO BORING. Ok, maybe for CV it's a bit different - but I have serious doubts whether I could really get through Ranked with CVs alone. You can't exactly carry Ranked with t6 CV - because your job is generally spotting and preventing enemy CV from doing the same. You still need a team capable of using this advantage. And then there's the sad fact that I'm not good enough with CVs to always ensure advantage for my team - not when I finally hit the R5+ Ranks. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guillotine ∞ Players 401 posts 7,897 battles Report post #25 Posted July 3, 2017 My toughs is that t6 ranked feels meh, BBs lack punch and cruisers are the same IFHE spamm fest with fragile boats. Also lower tier brings alot of new players into ranked, wich is good and bad thing. More population into que but also reduced skill, wich explains every idiotic rush to death yolos out there. I tryed cleveland but shinonome felt far more consistant in carrying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites