RenamedUser_544573522 Players 34 posts 2,445 battles Report post #1 Posted June 26, 2017 Is there a light at the end of the tunnel? Basically the weekend was really bad for one. I played something like 24 (ish) games in my Konig. out of the 24 games 2 were at my own tier One of these games my own team mate launched 8 torps into me at the spawn grid sinking me. the second I won. The other 22 were at T7 I lost around 20 of them. This isn't even balanced. Today is going the same way 5 games in. I really wanted to get my Konig capt to level 17 before moving up to T7, Hes currently at 15. Anyways the point is. Does anyone know how hard it is to get to 189.000 xp when you are winning an average of 300 - 500 xp per battle? infuriating. And before anyone comes at me "There is no difference between T5 and T7 get used to it, not wanting to play 22/24 games at T7 means you are rubbish at the game/insert smugness here. I am sure there is *Nothing* different about ships build in 1916 and ships build in 1942 despite their being a global arms race across these 3 and a half decades... Oh no no no no difference whatsoever. It just means you are rubbish at the game. Seriously is there light at the end of the tunnel? or am I just going to have to have a month off and stop trying to fight smoke clouds that are 30 years superior to myself due to said global arms race? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ferry_25 Players 4,392 posts 12,107 battles Report post #2 Posted June 26, 2017 As far as I can see you're doing good, no, very good in Konig... Being overtiered is, next to DD's, for German BB's the least problem. Heck: I'll take a Konig very serious in a Colorado or Nagato any time. Know MM is balancing the tiers on both sides. Yeah I know. Apart from a few exceptions. when being overtiered your role is more supportive rather than aggressive. And: hitting higher tiered opponents is yielding much bigger rewards. I see you've already pushed up to Bismarck. Just keep pushing until T10. Then you'll never be overtiered again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_544573522 Players 34 posts 2,445 battles Report post #3 Posted June 26, 2017 perhaps the really bad weekend just rekt my patience! I didn't get to the Bismark either. I won it. played one game in it, and decided I wanted to actually get the Gneissau first, upgrade that get a feelz for it, then upgrade to the Bismark. But I'm still trying to get the capt to where I feel will be right. I reckon 17 should be perfect. I just see a lot of T7 ships in my games lately, it would be nice if it would be more balanced. (btw that doesn't mean I want to play all my games at T4 that's just daft) but it is very lobsided toward T7 and when you finally get a game you think you can dominate, some moron in your own team goes and sinks you for Lulz! between sat/sun I was sank 3 times by my own team, right out of the game start. I don't know why people even do it myself. just makes it harder for yourself in future games! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daki Weekend Tester 1,677 posts 20,290 battles Report post #4 Posted June 26, 2017 If its any consolation, I also had an awful weekend in WoWs last week. However I also had great weekends as well, as will you eventually since after rain it is inevitable that the sun will shine That being said, be careful about blaming the destroyers. While the smoke is not particularly difficult to deal with, it becomes impossible if you take a wrong attitude Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ferry_25 Players 4,392 posts 12,107 battles Report post #5 Posted June 26, 2017 Yeah, TK-ing sucks. My best bet is: you've had "one of those days/ weekends" in which suddenly nothing seems to be working anymore. Rest assured: we all have them. You haven't become a bad player overnight. It's part of the package. The universal advice: when you feel frustrated, annoyed, angry or all three just close your client, cool off and try another moment. When you're frustrated etc you'll prone to make more mistakes and worsening things only. Edit: my weekend was thus far very volatile: either epic battles of legend or sucking beyond the realm of sucking. (-; Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EdiJo Players 1,419 posts 11,712 battles Report post #6 Posted June 26, 2017 52 minutes ago, Ferry_25 said: As far as I can see you're doing good, no, very good in Konig... Being overtiered is, next to DD's, for German BB's the least problem. Heck: I'll take a Konig very serious in a Colorado or Nagato any time. Know MM is balancing the tiers on both sides. Yeah I know. Apart from a few exceptions. when being overtiered your role is more supportive rather than aggressive. And: hitting higher tiered opponents is yielding much bigger rewards. I see you've already pushed up to Bismarck. Just keep pushing until T10. Then you'll never be overtiered again. "Doing good" doesn't matter much, when your fight just is not fair because you have much weaker ship than half (or often most) of your opponents. "Taking seriously" in Nagato can pretty much mean just bash poor T5 with 16-inch guns, outranging and overmatching the WW1 box from every angle. Sure, Konig manages better than some Kirov or Omaha, but still... MM is not balancing anything. +/-1 tier +/-1 nation +/-1 class "rules" often make extremely one-sided match-ups, resulting in stomped games. +/-2 tier MM just sucks, and has to be removed ASAP. "Keep pushing until T10. Then you'll never be overtiered again": L O L.. You'll just enter the Target Area for Harvesting. And WG does everything to make you push there, by making medium-tier playing miserable. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PLAGA] Zuzia_10 Beta Tester 94 posts 23,776 battles Report post #7 Posted June 26, 2017 don't worry just bang the wall for a few times and all be in colour again little distorted but ok:) yesterday played 3 games in kaga to relax. two first once done nice dmg over 140k. losses as usual- then came the third one,i sunk a dd for 7k dmg and before I rld my planes the game was over with our team just steam rolling the other. Very often I just play for daily win bonus on my ships and mostly I go from left to right or otherwise and always I get stuck on the fith ship where It does not matter what I do its a loss for min a 10 games before rng let me have a win where I do some crap dmg due to steam rolling. so just relax and use a wall:) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[JG4] JG4_sKylon Players 1,133 posts 20,992 battles Report post #8 Posted June 26, 2017 AndyInnit, welcome to the club. I am absolutely sure it will get better, maybe already today or tomorrow. But please be informed that i recently did not only have a bad weekend, but an absolute frustrating week. Though i often don´t follow the advise i am sure that if you start to get frustrated, your own gameplay starts to suffer as well. It´s best to stop playing there or at least take a break. But honestly, there are worse things than getting tiered up in a König. Just play a Nürnberg in a Tier8 match... or most of the other T6 cruisers in T8. Good luck mate! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thracen Players 525 posts 8,871 battles Report post #9 Posted June 26, 2017 Yep, we all get bad runs. I'm in one now, take a break and come back and play your most fun ships. Or switch to ships that are more independent. My current salt problem is in the missouri in particular, you have to play her bow on and aggressive which means even if you get your positioning right it can soon become wrong if your team turns and ditches you. Happens all the time in her and the iwoa especially. DDs and CCs are harder to play but if you are skilled you can get the best out of a bad team or even strap on some carry pants. Another good cure for the salt is a couple of division mates, more wins, more support and fun times even if you get detonated, the schadenfreude actually helps. Oh and an emphatic yes to it gets better at T7, some of the best ships are at T7 with the best matchmaking too. The Genu, sharn, moyoko, nagato and Fiji are all fantastic and really fun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #10 Posted June 26, 2017 I doubt you had 20 of 22 games in your Tier V ship at Tier VII (unless you faildivision). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhostRiderMax123 ∞ Players 769 posts 3,782 battles Report post #11 Posted June 26, 2017 Your not the only one who has had a poor weekend in WoWS. Thankfully I had "Wolfenstein the new order" to keep me sain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KLUNJ] bushwacker001 [KLUNJ] Players 2,870 posts Report post #12 Posted June 26, 2017 17 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: I doubt you had 20 of 22 games in your Tier V ship at Tier VII (unless you faildivision). Take no notice of him Pete he is renowned on the forum for making things up for attention.....take a look at the last time he had counting difficulties. https://forum.worldofwarships.eu/topic/74046-motivating-the-team/#comment-1641545 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_544573522 Players 34 posts 2,445 battles Report post #13 Posted June 26, 2017 28 minutes ago, bushwacker001 said: Take no notice of him Pete he is renowned on the forum for making things up for attention.....take a look at the last time he had counting difficulties You had a really bad week, then had a vent on the forum, and had a good day, therefore your good day negates your bad week therefore you lied Lame dude. troll with a memory though. give you that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_544573522 Players 34 posts 2,445 battles Report post #14 Posted June 26, 2017 1 hour ago, daki said: That being said, be careful about blaming the destroyers. Nah I'm not blaming specific ships. But this happens a lot. You spot a DD, fire at him he pops smoke, you decide to charge him (good secondaries why not) Reality, the DD slunk off and you are running into both enemy T7 BBs or something. Gets me every damned time! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhostRiderMax123 ∞ Players 769 posts 3,782 battles Report post #15 Posted June 26, 2017 11 minutes ago, AndyInnit said: Nah I'm not blaming specific ships. But this happens a lot. You spot a DD, fire at him he pops smoke, you decide to charge him (good secondaries why not) Reality, the DD slunk off and you are running into both enemy T7 BBs or something. Gets me every damned time! There is a lesson in there somewhere 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KLUNJ] bushwacker001 [KLUNJ] Players 2,870 posts Report post #16 Posted June 26, 2017 19 minutes ago, AndyInnit said: You had a really bad week, then had a vent on the forum, and had a good day, therefore your good day negates your bad week therefore you lied Lame dude. troll with a memory though. give you that A truth telling troll? ... novel you are a known liar that can't count...end of Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_544573522 Players 34 posts 2,445 battles Report post #17 Posted June 26, 2017 11 hours ago, bushwacker001 said: A truth telling troll? ... novel you are a known liar that count count...end of If you cant be constructive why don't you [edited]off? Really simple. Don't like the content of a post?. [edited]off Your contribution is nothing more that "I don't like you so what you say isn't true, and I'm going to troll every post you ever make" Well I don't like you so [edited]off. Unless you have an actual contribution to make.Edited Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KLUNJ] bushwacker001 [KLUNJ] Players 2,870 posts Report post #18 Posted June 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, AndyInnit said: If you cant be constructive why don't you [edited]off? Really simple. Don't like the content of a post?. [edited]off Your contribution is nothing more that "I don't like you so what you say isn't true, and I'm going to troll every post you ever make" Well I don't like you so [edited]off. Unless you have an actual contribution to make. useless piece of crap Well stop lying to get attention then....you were proved a liar last time when you claimed you had lost 70 out of 73 or something and it was really 9 out of 31. You need a mothers hug by the sounds of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_544573522 Players 34 posts 2,445 battles Report post #19 Posted June 26, 2017 9 minutes ago, GhostRider_24 said: There is a lesson in there somewhere yeah you break off, and get set on fire by multiple ships and lose 90% of your hull before you can shoot anything. great lesson. WW1 ships should not be constantly dragged in to fight WW2 ships. Are you honestly telling me what when there is 22.000 people playing wows. that MM cannot give T5 players a balanced gaming session at their own tier? Currently most games at T5 you are T7 food. and it is getting stale. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_544573522 Players 34 posts 2,445 battles Report post #20 Posted June 26, 2017 11 hours ago, bushwacker001 said: Well stop lying to get attention then....you were proved a liar last time when you claimed you had lost 70 out of 73 or something and it was really 9 out of 31. You need a mothers hug by the sounds of it but you were negating the Friday and Saturday and sunday part of the whole weekend and basing your opinion from just the Monday. If I count games over 4 days, but you exclude 3 of them because (I don't even know what reasons) then of course I am "lying" in your terms.Edited Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KLUNJ] bushwacker001 [KLUNJ] Players 2,870 posts Report post #21 Posted June 26, 2017 14 minutes ago, AndyInnit said: but you were negating the Friday and Saturday and sunday part of the whole weekend and basing your opinion from just the Monday. If I count games over 4 days, but you exclude 3 of them because (I don't even know what reasons) then of course I am "lying" in your terms. retard Can't get the attention you desire so you resort to abuse....hope you mummy doesn't catch you. This was one of my favourite of your BS posts "Now bearing in mind, my Average damage in the S Carolina and the Wyoming come somewhere in at 80kish which I think is good enough." When it was actually 32k and 40k at the time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_544573522 Players 34 posts 2,445 battles Report post #22 Posted June 26, 2017 12 hours ago, bushwacker001 said: Can't get the attention you desire so you resort to abuse....hope you mummy doesn't catch you Anyone can resort to Freudian psychological projection in an argument. I have a wife and 4 children. Sounds like you have projected your world of ills at me though. Get a life, instead of projecting your personal issues on other people, as if it is an argument in the first place. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection 12 hours ago, bushwacker001 said: ....hope you mummy doesn't catch you. Psychological projection is a theory in psychology in which humans defend themselves against their own unconscious impulses or qualities (both positive and negative) by denying their existence in themselves while attributing them to others. 13 hours ago, bushwacker001 said: You need a mothers hug by the sounds of it. Projection (German: Projektion) was conceptualised by Sigmund Freud in his letters to Wilhelm Fliess,[9] and further refined by Karl Abraham and Anna Freud. Freud considered that, in projection, thoughts, motivations, desires, and feelings that cannot be accepted as one's own are dealt with by being placed in the outside world and attributed to someone else. People like you are ten to the dozen. Now have you anything actually constructive to say? Or are you just going to offload more of your personal insecurities onto me, whilst calling it an argument? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] tank276 [NWP] Players 891 posts 9,271 battles Report post #23 Posted June 26, 2017 The Andy vs Bushwacker duel has gone to new levels. Instead of learning things about WOWs , we are getting free lessons on Psychology and Freudian theory. :) (Would like to type that smiley face that eats pop corn but dont know how to do it). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KLUNJ] bushwacker001 [KLUNJ] Players 2,870 posts Report post #24 Posted June 26, 2017 17 minutes ago, AndyInnit said: I have a wife and 4 children. Probably only 1 child but you counted wrong I'll leave it there now....Three threads to your name with bullcrap statistic lies....you are the one with the problems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WGB] 13Ninjas Players 198 posts 2,769 battles Report post #25 Posted June 26, 2017 2 hours ago, GhostRider_24 said: Your not the only one who has had a poor weekend in WoWS. Thankfully I had "Wolfenstein the new order" to keep me sain. Just bought Wolfenstein the new order after watching Flamu play it on twitch, yet to install it. means less time playing wows, cant be bad. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites