[SKIDZ] chazwozza Players 1,030 posts Report post #1 Posted June 24, 2017 I'll admit I play alot less now Alot of one sided games have just taken the fun right out however I can't speak for all When new lines come out interest peaks a tad but a few months back prime time was 25k What's going on ? People just getting bored? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[H_FAN] Gnirf Players 3,293 posts 67,362 battles Report post #2 Posted June 25, 2017 I'll admit I play alot less now Alot of one sided games have just taken the fun right out however I can't speak for all When new lines come out interest peaks a tad but a few months back prime time was 25k What's going on ? People just getting bored? Its summer 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PANEU] kfa Beta Tester 1,975 posts 13,875 battles Report post #3 Posted June 25, 2017 ... Victor Kislyi called this a technical measure. He also refuted the claim that the lion share of the WG turnover comes from World of Tanks, mentioning that World of Ships has been among the top 10 profitable online games, and World of Tanks Blitz still remains more profitable than similar online games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warsinger2 Players 261 posts 3,504 battles Report post #4 Posted June 25, 2017 For a game with no competition that should constantly grow these are indeed galling numbers. What is worse, I personally cherish middle of the night or early morning game play for the lack of "potatoes". 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Babykim Beta Tester 1,649 posts 6,477 battles Report post #5 Posted June 25, 2017 What's going on ? People just getting bored? Yes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BRITS] Origin47 Beta Tester 434 posts 10,686 battles Report post #6 Posted June 25, 2017 More like, people are getting "fed up". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BRITS] fallenkezef [BRITS] Players 1,788 posts 1,954 battles Report post #7 Posted June 25, 2017 I think the game is at a point where mostly casuals are happy with it but the more seriously minded players are not. The "competitive" players fill these forums with wailing and gnashing of teeth and I do agree with them. The Bismark campaign was a good start in spicing things up, looking forward to the Dunkirk one, but the game needs a competitive element to keep that section of the playerbase happy. More ranked seasons (removing the safety net at higher ranks so you can't just grind to Rank 1, rank 1-10 should be for the players who have the skills to earn and keep it) and a clan wars/stronghold mode. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shadisar Beta Tester 29 posts 4,291 battles Report post #8 Posted June 25, 2017 Well WG is doing it best to kill the game after all. We have overpopulation of BBis and its getting worst and they still think about how to counter it... Forum can tell them in 2h still its to hard. We have more and more Overpowered Premium Ships that break game balance that is bad thx to first problem. We get sh**y mission and events compeered to US/RU so yee it will not make player base bigger. We have crap ton of under preforming ships and if its not a BB then well wait years for buff if they even do it in the first place. After-effect ? I played more games in Closed Beta that in open one so yee it going to get worst. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Leo_Apollo11 Quality Poster 7,146 posts 31,562 battles Report post #9 Posted June 25, 2017 Hi all, https://stats.wotapi.ru/stats/wows/eu/total According to the charts the June 2016 is very very similar to June 2017 and, therefore, one can't say that "player numbers are dropping"... BTW, if you check the dates close to New Year 2017 (which hosted the "Hunt for Graf Spee" and "Santa's Convoy") you can see that numbers were great - therefore the holidays plus greta campaigns give the best return! Leo "Apollo11" 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PMI] Juanx Players 2,564 posts 9,352 battles Report post #10 Posted June 25, 2017 You cant keep a playerbase with insults and nut kicks... Wg is doing its finest to kill the game, as already explained in this same thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SteDorff Players 684 posts 5,190 battles Report post #11 Posted June 25, 2017 (edited) We are just in between interesting missions some players need a goal then take a short brake and then return we have the upcomming ranked a lot will be returning to play that is why it is important to keep ranked as WG is doing it at the moment shifting between tiers so a broader part of the player base can be entertained and collect a pirate flag. I don't think there needs to be more 'veterans only' certainly not with ranked if they want to they can get the 1 rank a second and a third time with wopping ship prices and other flags to win. And soon interesting new premium ships arrive. but if BB s are your problem start sailing DD s its great believe me. Edited June 25, 2017 by SteDorff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BRITS] fallenkezef [BRITS] Players 1,788 posts 1,954 battles Report post #12 Posted June 25, 2017 We are just in between interesting missions some players need a goal then take a short brake and then return we have the upcomming ranked a lot will be returning to play that is why it is important to keep ranked as WG is doing it at the moment shifting between tiers so a broader part of the player base can be entertained and collect a pirate flag. I don't think there needs to be more 'veterans only' certainly not with ranked if they want to they can get the 1 rank a second and a third time with wopping ship prices and other flags to win. And soon interesting new premium ships arrive. Aye, what I find with these "sky is falling" threads is people who want the game to cater to their personal whims looking for reasons to justify that. The fact is, the vast majority of people who play this game are happy with it. Basic business sense is to cater to the majority with the odd special for the minority. One of the problems with forums like this is most people do not care about forums or putting their opinions on, especialy if they are happy. So you see more negative views than positive and it's easy to convince yourself that this is the majority view, the odd dissenting voice comes across as the minority view despite the fact it represents the "silent majority". 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PMI] Juanx Players 2,564 posts 9,352 battles Report post #13 Posted June 25, 2017 Aye, what I find with these "sky is falling" threads is people who want the game to cater to their personal whims looking for reasons to justify that. The fact is, the vast majority of people who play this game are happy with it. Basic business sense is to cater to the majority with the odd special for the minority. One of the problems with forums like this is most people do not care about forums or putting their opinions on, especialy if they are happy. So you see more negative views than positive and it's easy to convince yourself that this is the majority view, the odd dissenting voice comes across as the minority view despite the fact it represents the "silent majority". Would like to see where your "everyone is mostly happy" statistics come from, but hey, the game is fine, 20% lost in the last few months is fine... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BRITS] fallenkezef [BRITS] Players 1,788 posts 1,954 battles Report post #14 Posted June 25, 2017 Would like to see where your "everyone is mostly happy" statistics come from, but hey, the game is fine, 20% lost in the last few months is fine... I'm in retail, been in the job 20 years so let me explain "seasonal footfall" to you. You NEVER get a uniform footfall, or in this case, playerbase. We'll look at England, in May and June schools run their exams which drops player numbers. Care to guess how many players are of education age? You have similar spikes and drops depending on time of year and also linked to holidays. You can not compare month to month statistics, in my shop we have seasonal spikes just as a game like WG does. This is why we compare YEAR to YEAR not MONTH to MONTH. As Leo posted and you clearly ignored because it does not support your preconceptions, game numbers are following the same pattern as last year. Now, this is in itself a little bit of problem, for different reasons, numbers have remained roughly the same so WG could do with some way of intetresting new players. However they are clearly NOT losing players n a large scale. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CBS] Allied_Winter Players 6,242 posts 10,755 battles Report post #15 Posted June 25, 2017 Given the stats Leo_Apollo linked, I'd agree that there is a slight drop in the last three to six months but that the current numbers are somewhat similar to the numbers of last years summer. This was just around the time where the GNB ran out, and quite some players where exhausted and took a break. On top of that: During the heatwave of the recent days, starting up my machine to play games (and add some more heat to my room) was a no go. So yeah in total I'd say, it's the regular fluctuation of players over a year. Wait until the RN BBs arrive and see the numbers jumping way up again. Greetings Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MIMI] Kruzenstern Beta Tester 1,133 posts 5,975 battles Report post #16 Posted June 25, 2017 Well, with the playerbase amazing me every day by becoming even more stupid when they were already unbelievably stupid to begin with, and the only tiers in randoms that are actually fun to play being 3,4 and 7 due to the Edited matchmaking in 5,6 and 8 and the boring meta in 9 and 10, the game is definitely becoming more stale. I find myself wanting to play less and less. The new PvE scenarios were a step in the right direction, but it also creates frustrations, as it seems to attract a whole new breed of stupid players that make those terrible 5K battle 45% winrate 15K avg damage random players look like geniuses, and due to the bots actually being quite good at shooting and extremely good at torping and evading enemy torps, it is very hard to carry a team of dimwits with just one or two decent players. I can only speak for myself, but WG really needs to fix their MM and do something to separate the different types of players to retain my interest in the long run... This post has been edited by the moderation team due to swearing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BRITS] fallenkezef [BRITS] Players 1,788 posts 1,954 battles Report post #17 Posted June 25, 2017 On 6/25/2017 at 11:13 AM, Kruzenstern said: Well, with the playerbase amazing me every day by becoming even more stupid when they were already unbelievably stupid to begin with, and the only tiers in randoms that are actually fun to play being 3,4 and 7 due to the Edited matchmaking in 5,6 and 8 and the boring meta in 9 and 10, the game is definitely becoming more stale. I find myself wanting to play less and less. The new PvE scenarios were a step in the right direction, but it also creates frustrations, as it seems to attract a whole new breed of stupid players that make those terrible 5K battle 45% winrate 15K avg damage random players look like geniuses, and due to the bots actually being quite good at shooting and extremely good at torping and evading enemy torps, it is very hard to carry a team of dimwits with just one or two decent players. I can only speak for myself, but WG really needs to fix their MM and do something to separate the different types of players to retain my interest in the long run... I agree, the toxicity of the "competitive" players to the "average" players is getting out of hand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett50 Beta Tester 236 posts 3,050 battles Report post #18 Posted June 25, 2017 Steam summer sales draw people away and WG haven't come up with anything to tempt anyone back, the weekend 'specials' are laughable, maybe numbers might pick up again after summer, maybe...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #19 Posted June 25, 2017 Oh, the doomsayers are back. Must be summer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Philipp_ab_exterminatore Alpha Tester 1,191 posts 8,097 battles Report post #20 Posted June 25, 2017 Hot weather and people taking a break before ranked battles will not help and as other have stated exams would have had a lot of the player base revising. Wait until we get the British battleships Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daki Weekend Tester 1,677 posts 20,271 battles Report post #21 Posted June 25, 2017 Every year we have this kind of topic one or two times. Lets see how many will now: - Predict WoWp like debacle - Game disappearing until year-end based on thorough "statistical analysis" - Knowing xyz number of good players leaving the game with only noobs playing it - Having large number of "friends" leaving the game because of xyz whine (e.g. DD OP, CA OP...) For me only 2 things count: 1. Is there enough players in queues for a reasonable MM within a reasonable time - for that we do not need more than 4-5k concurrent players 2. Does WG generate enough revenues to continue developing the content - Imho WoWs is probably WG's the most profitable title with respect to total paying customer vs total playing customers due to older average playerbase All in all, no matter the fluctuations & whine, I expect WoWs to be alive and well in the next few years to come. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[COMFY] ImperialAdmiral [COMFY] Players 1,649 posts 9,828 battles Report post #22 Posted June 25, 2017 Steam summer sales draw people away and WG haven't come up with anything to tempt anyone back, the weekend 'specials' are laughable, maybe numbers might pick up again after summer, maybe...... This pretty much. At least in my case. I was really waiting for it to buy a few games I always wanted to play. Also lack of any long time running event/new line to grind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOO] Fat_Maniac [HOO] Players 2,337 posts 4,238 battles Report post #23 Posted June 25, 2017 (edited) On 6/25/2017 at 10:51 AM, fallenkezef said: I'm in retail, been in the job 20 years so let me explain "seasonal footfall" to you. You NEVER get a uniform footfall, or in this case, playerbase. We'll look at England, in May and June schools run their exams which drops player numbers. Care to guess how many players are of education age? You have similar spikes and drops depending on time of year and also linked to holidays. You can not compare month to month statistics, in my shop we have seasonal spikes just as a game like WG does. This is why we compare YEAR to YEAR not MONTH to MONTH. As Leo posted and you clearly ignored because it does not support your preconceptions, game numbers are following the same pattern as last year. Now, this is in itself a little bit of problem, for different reasons, numbers have remained roughly the same so WG could do with some way of intetresting new players. However they are clearly NOT losing players n a large scale. It's called same condition gain. But you also have to take into account not only in game events and promotions,external factors like the weather, and big events like the World Cup or Olympics will have a huge influence. I spent 25 years in retail as well working in IT development supporting the full supply chain. On 6/25/2017 at 11:41 AM, p1j2i3l4 said: Wait until we get the British battleships Ooooo don't remind me! I'll fanboy all over the floor with excitement (again!). Edited June 25, 2017 by Fat_Maniac Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BONUS] Hedgehog1963 [BONUS] Beta Tester 3,211 posts 14,951 battles Report post #24 Posted June 25, 2017 (edited) On 6/25/2017 at 2:47 AM, chazwozza said: I'll admit I play alot less now Alot of one sided games have just taken the fun right out however I can't speak for all When new lines come out interest peaks a tad but a few months back prime time was 25k What's going on ? People just getting bored? I play a lot less than I would because of the constant and never ending destruction of DD play. Friends have stopped playing altogether because of it, and I do not exaggerate at all there. Soon there will only be BB players left. On 6/25/2017 at 1:16 PM, Fat_Maniac said: It's called same condition gain. But you also have to take into account not only in game events and promotions,external factors like the weather, and big events like the World Cup or Olympics will have a huge influence. I spent 25 years in retail as well working in IT development supporting the full supply chain. This summer has only had the Cricket and that is over. Edited June 25, 2017 by Hedgehog1963 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOO] Fat_Maniac [HOO] Players 2,337 posts 4,238 battles Report post #25 Posted June 25, 2017 This summer has only had the Cricket and that is over. The IPL? Love it every year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites