fighting autowin rocks.. i mean cruisers

[RenamedUser_544573522]

I almost exclusively play BB.
​Anyways. How does a BB captain, whos shells arc more like a rifle in terms of trajectory, fight a cruiser stashed behind a rock, firing his mortar shells over it.

​Seriously. Its getting boring.
Every game almost. You sail forward. then 8 ships worth of shells come flying over rocks at you.
​Some you can see, others you cannot. but either way. Your shells will always hit the rock, and the cruiser shells will always sail over it hitting you.
​Most games as BB now. I will lose close to 70% of my hull before a cruiser makes a mistakes and leaves the cover of the super rock and lets me actually damage him.

​This is crazy. Everyone is camping.
the game is so boring for it.
​Why are people playing wargaming, when they are scared to hurt their ship?
​the lower tiers used to be much more fun, But unfortunately this camping rubbish has crept right down to even T4 games.

Why is everyone camping, it never used to be like this.
​

[ClappingLollies]

I almost exclusively play BB.

​Anyways. How does a BB captain, whos shells arc more like a rifle in terms of trajectory, fight a cruiser stashed behind a rock, firing his mortar shells over it.

 

​Seriously. Its getting boring.

Every game almost. You sail forward. then 8 ships worth of shells come flying over rocks at you.

​Some you can see, others you cannot. but either way. Your shells will always hit the rock, and the cruiser shells will always sail over it hitting you.

​Most games as BB now. I will lose close to 70% of my hull before a cruiser makes a mistakes and leaves the cover of the super rock and lets me actually damage him.

 

​This is crazy. Everyone is camping.

the game is so boring for it.

​Why are people playing wargaming, when they are scared to hurt their ship?

​the lower tiers used to be much more fun, But unfortunately this camping rubbish has crept right down to even T4 games.

 

Why is everyone camping, it never used to be like this.

​

 

If you don't camp and hide in cruisers, there is a very big chance you are going to get deleted by 1 of the 5 BB's shooting at you. Think most cruiser players are tired of tanking for the sniping BB's. 

[anonym_XGuN6pHmfiJ9]

Read your comment.

 

Solution. Switch to cruisers. They are fun and challenging. You can even troll BB's and shoot them from behind a island (or from smoke). But watch out. BB's can kill you in 1 single salvo. You have to be careful.

[Exocet6951]

I almost exclusively play BB.

​Anyways. How does a BB captain, whos shells arc more like a rifle in terms of trajectory, fight a cruiser stashed behind a rock, firing his mortar shells over it.

 

​Seriously. Its getting boring.

Every game almost. You sail forward. then 8 ships worth of shells come flying over rocks at you.

​Some you can see, others you cannot. but either way. Your shells will always hit the rock, and the cruiser shells will always sail over it hitting you.

​Most games as BB now. I will lose close to 70% of my hull before a cruiser makes a mistakes and leaves the cover of the super rock and lets me actually damage him.

 

​This is crazy. Everyone is camping.

the game is so boring for it.

​Why are people playing wargaming, when they are scared to hurt their ship?

​the lower tiers used to be much more fun, But unfortunately this camping rubbish has crept right down to even T4 games.

 

Why is everyone camping, it never used to be like this.

​

 

The cruiser does that because it's either that, or he does his job and gets wrecked instantly by your favorite class.

[Favuz]

Not sure if troll or serious, anyway.....

 

Cruisers can be deleted in a single BB salvo, that's why they have to play carefully.

Sitting behind a rock it's not camping, it's using terrain at your advantage.

 

Camping in this game means sailing in open water at 18+km (or 15+km in low tiers), and this is a BB exclusive, for what i can see.

 

 

[1MajorKoenig]

BB rant. Haven't seen one like this in s while.

 

BBs are the easiest class to play anyway. Especially high tiers. No need to complain about an Atlanta hiding behind a rock.

[RambaRal]

I almost exclusively play BB.

**snip snip**

Every game almost. You sail forward. 

**snip snip**

Why is everyone camping, it never used to be like this.

​

 

"Play BB" and "Sail forward" in the same post? What is this sorcery? 

[ClappingLollies]

 

"Play BB" and "Sail forward" in the same post? What is this sorcery? 

 

Every game almost  

[_Teob_]

 

It's because of you! (or rather BBs on the whole)

That cruiser will spend 10 minutes lobbing shells at you to take 70% of your HP off, you will fire 3 salvos at him and he's gone. 

On top of that removal of stealth fire and all the other indirect nerfs to DDs have made the game much more passive. It's much scarier to push in anything other than a BB at the moment.

[LordMeru]

I almost exclusively play BB.

​Anyways. How does a BB captain, whos shells arc more like a rifle in terms of trajectory, fight a cruiser stashed behind a rock, firing his mortar shells over it.

 

​Seriously. Its getting boring.

Every game almost. You sail forward. then 8 ships worth of shells come flying over rocks at you.

​Some you can see, others you cannot. but either way. Your shells will always hit the rock, and the cruiser shells will always sail over it hitting you.

​Most games as BB now. I will lose close to 70% of my hull before a cruiser makes a mistakes and leaves the cover of the super rock and lets me actually damage him.

 

​This is crazy. Everyone is camping.

the game is so boring for it.

​Why are people playing wargaming, when they are scared to hurt their ship?

​the lower tiers used to be much more fun, But unfortunately this camping rubbish has crept right down to even T4 games.

 

Why is everyone camping, it never used to be like this.

​

You have less than 200 games on tier 6 and 7, and only 1 battle with a Tier 8 made with the bismarck probably won with the "Hunt for the Bismarck".

You should just play more and learn how to deal with different gameplay and different ships...

[RenamedUser_544573522]

That cruiser will spend 10 minutes lobbing shells at you to take 70%

 

more like 3 minutes

It's much scarier to push in anything other than a BB at the moment

 

​See when I first started playing. Cruisers used to sail along side BBs, help spot etc.

​Now the BBs sail forward, whilst the cruisers and DDs take their positions behind rocks. waiting for an idiot player like me who actually tries to push forward.

​Pushing forward in a BB is now a death sentence.

 

​he who presses W first dies first. Your team seems to be waiting for everyone to shoot at you, so they can shoot at the targets that light up. from the comfort of their stationary geological formation.

[RenamedUser_544573522]

You have less than 200 games on tier 6 and 7, and only 1 battle with a Tier 8 made with the bismarck probably won with the "Hunt for the Bismarck".

 

​Yeah that is because I am reluctant to play anything over T5 because I can guarantee I will be shot to death by a whole team of camping ships within the first minute of engagement.

​I always find myself to be the closest person to the enemy team, even if my ship is 20 bloody knots.

 

​BBs should not be the only ship class that actually moves during a battle

​

[BillydSquid]

I almost exclusively play BB.

​Anyways. How does a BB captain, whos shells arc more like a rifle in terms of trajectory, fight a cruiser stashed behind a rock, firing his mortar shells over it.

 

​Seriously. Its getting boring.

Every game almost. You sail forward. then 8 ships worth of shells come flying over rocks at you.

​Some you can see, others you cannot. but either way. Your shells will always hit the rock, and the cruiser shells will always sail over it hitting you.

​Most games as BB now. I will lose close to 70% of my hull before a cruiser makes a mistakes and leaves the cover of the super rock and lets me actually damage him.

 

​This is crazy. Everyone is camping.

the game is so boring for it.

​Why are people playing wargaming, when they are scared to hurt their ship?

​the lower tiers used to be much more fun, But unfortunately this camping rubbish has crept right down to even T4 games.

 

Why is everyone camping, it never used to be like this.

​

 

Hehe, 8 ships worth of shells flying over rocks? I see you've encountered the Minotaur. RN is love, RN is life.

 

The thing with the current CA and CL lines is that they have to use cover, snipe or, smoke up or be instantly deleted by the numerous BBs running about. 

 

If you're complaining about CA/ CLs using tactics that allow them to survive and cause damage, then I suggest you play CA/ CLs and you'll understand why the meta has caused a shift in behavior. 

[Prospect_b]

​Now the BBs sail forward, ...

 No they don't.

[Ferry_25]

Though highly annyoing it's usually not a very serious problem. My solution (not 100% guaranteed mind you). The rock shooters are in most of the cases RN or USN cruisers. 1 their shell arc is very high so it's a long time between firing and landing. This in enhanced by the fact they're usually shooting at long range (otherwise they couldn't clear the island). So WASD-ing will avoid a lot if incoming. Non RN/ USN cruisers often have far flatter shell trajectories so they won't be that inclined to rockfire cause very often you can kindly return the favor. Of course beware of the situation: is the cruiser is probably alone, just steam up to the island. In the case of RN cruisers: point your bow towards him. His pingpong balls won't do very much and won't set you on fire evidently. If he's smart he'll bail. otherwise steam up and crush him on short range (beware of torps o.c.). In the case of USN's either run away: get out of shooting range asap (he'll either have to follow you in the open or abort his rock campsite). if you catch a fire: let it burn. A flaming zone is "immune" to fire AFAIK. All the fire dmg can be healed back. Also call in the allies and try to surround the island and thus shooting the living daylights out if him.

Don't panic and don't keep sailing in a straight line (which is often a good idea regardless of the situation) and keep an eye out for the enemy BB's: better give broadside to a cruiser than to a BB!

[RenamedUser_544573522]

No they don't.

 

 

 

mine does.

every game.

 

Though I should just stop to be honest.

Typical map.

 

​North deployment, Objectives in the middle.

I head south, toward the objective.

​My team sails north and gets behind some rocks and stays there....

The enemy team sail just below the objectives, and hides behind rocks there..

We lose....

 

​again.....

[LordMeru]

 

​Yeah that is because I am reluctant to play anything over T5 because I can guarantee I will be shot to death by a whole team of camping ships within the first minute of engagement.

​I always find myself to be the closest person to the enemy team, even if my ship is 20 bloody knots.

 

​BBs should not be the only ship class that actually moves during a battle

​

Try to play the other classes till T6/7 and learn different gameplay and tattics. 

My suggestion is to play more and more classes

[KHETTIFER]

Hey Andy if you are looking for a fun and engaging game with good balance and a dynamic playerbase you are definitely in the wrong game!.

[ilhilh]

BB player coming here to complain about how CAs have it easy in this game.  Brave.  Now where did I put my popcorn?

 

[Miessa3]

 

mine does.

every game.

 

Though I should just stop to be honest.

Typical map.

 

​North deployment, Objectives in the middle.

I head south, toward the objective.

​My team sails north and gets behind some rocks and stays there....

The enemy team sail just below the objectives, and hides behind rocks there..

We lose....

 

​again.....

 

Do you know what selective perception means? or confirmation bias?

I can garantee you in every game there are at least 1-3 friendlys moving for the obejectives. (namely the DDs) If they don't do it they are either very bad players getting very little to nothing out of this match, or RU DDs (because those are apparently immune to any indirect nerfs the DDs get).

The cruisers that doing it right wisley descide to stay behind their BBs (If not RNs with smoke or very stealthy ones high on adrenaline)

So the ones that are in most cases the ones truly camping are the BBs. If you somehow get to see one of those rare instances in high Tier where most of the BBs DO PUSH you will find that most will push with them (well the competent players)

 

Like everyone above said. If it is so easy that try it yourself. Play USN/RN Cruisers and laugh while you completly destroy them in 3 minutes (lol) with only HE and fires while behind an island.

By the time you reach Tier VIII in any cruiser techtree come back here and tell us how it went..... (can't wait)

[Flid_Merchant]

Or play a DD and torp the offending shell lobber the second you fly past his little rock. Just watch he doesn't see you coming with radar/hydro.

[RenamedUser_544573522]

edited (because I thought It never posted)

[RenamedUser_544573522]

Hey Andy if you are looking for a fun and engaging game with good balance and a dynamic playerbase you are definitely in the wrong game!.

 

 

​thanks for an honest answer.

 

Like everyone above said. If it is so easy that try it yourself. Play USN/RN Cruisers and laugh while you completly destroy them in 3 minutes (lol) with only HE and fires while behind an island.

 

​I never mention fire?

 

​Is this a forum where struggling players can ask for help?

​Or is it a forum where smug veterans take the piss out of relative noobs to feel better about themselves?

 

It is hard to tell sometimes.

[chazwozza]

Hidden rock lobbers having an advantage who would have thought

 

[Flid_Merchant]

We're just saying most of these ships play this way because they would be very vulnerable out in the open. Saying that, I find RN cruisers up to Tier 8 can make much better use of their guns up close, maneuverability to circle a BB faster than turrets can turn, torps to add to the damage and smoke to get away if things get hairy. The hard part is getting that close in the first place. The best way is to sneak up on them from behind a rock.