Online ganging up, - your thoughts

[Excalibur1987]

Sometimes I play a game, and notice aerial attacks on a specific ships by several people be it cruiser or battleships against certain players that are off no strategic nor awards required targets.

 

I wonder is it individuals who are holding a grudge or something else?

 

If the former than I wonder do they cry foul if reported?

[Runner357]

Ehm....you don't kill ships fast so focusing a specific player is an easier way of getting him off the map. 

Reporting players who focus fire is utterly retarded 

[Excalibur1987]

So if you have an enemy battleship on you and a cruiser way back it is easier to focus on the cruiser than the enemy battleship in your doorstep?

 

That seems pretty retarded to me and strategic suicide. 

[Cpt_Andre]

strategic

 

 

If its a radar cruiser or a cruiser with smoke, which is about to hide, why not

[Excalibur1987]

And if it is neither, which in most cases it is.

[Tungstonid]

So if you have an enemy battleship on you and a cruiser way back it is easier to focus on the cruiser than the enemy battleship in your doorstep?

 

That seems pretty retarded to me and strategic suicide. 

 

If you have a bow on Iowa at 8 km in front of you and a broadside cruiser at 10 km, the broadside cruiser can indeed be a more valid target since

A) you can take out guns easier which means less damage dealt against you and your team besides other advantages like points and one ship less that could cap etc.

B) you can't deal much damage to the Iowa anyway so the cruiser will have more time to deal damage which is when they are dangerous

C) the Iowa can't do much damage if you are in a bow on BB yourself, hence he is a minor annoyance at the moment.

 

Btw: what do you mean by "aerial attacks"?

[Excalibur1987]

I am referring to aircraft carriers attacking warships that are miles behind not inside gun range compared to ships that are closer.

[Deckeru_Maiku]

I am referring to aircraft carriers attacking warships that are miles behind not inside gun range compared to ships that are closer.

 

You DO know, that there is something called AntiAirGuns and that CVs have a limited amount of planes available, so they tend to pick the "softer targets" that travel alone and away from the AA guns of other ships?

 

[Kevbar]

 

 

If its a radar cruiser or a cruiser with smoke, which is about to hide, why not

"My name is Inigo Montoya;

You killed my father;

Prepare to die!"

[Procrastes]

Sometimes I play a game, and notice aerial attacks on a specific ships by several people be it cruiser or battleships against certain players that are off no strategic nor awards required targets.

 

I wonder is it individuals who are holding a grudge or something else?

 

If the former than I wonder do they cry foul if reported?

 

Have you tried asking these players, in the battle chat?

Anyway, please don't report players for shooting at enemy ships.

[Kais_S012]

I am referring to aircraft carriers attacking warships that are miles behind not inside gun range compared to ships that are closer.

 

a lone battlesheep should always a valid target to a carrier. no matter how much they cry about it despite the buffs they received to their AA capabilities and turning speeds.

 

attrition is a pretty big factor at the end of the day, one less battlesheep on the enemy team not matter how useless is still one less battlesheep the rest of your team has to deal with later on.

 

[Excalibur1987]

Not necessarily a battleship by itself but let me give you a scenario.

A cruiser is with other battleships and cruisers heading towards the enemy, it is further behind, allied vessels are in range of two enemy carriers, enemy carriers deploy all air wings against cruiser outside firing range and ignore enemy battleship and cruiser inside firing range only to end up loosing the battle. 

While in reality logical players would focus on enemy on their doorstep, to cause damage / make them change direction so you can get out. 

[Excalibur1987]

And yes the question has been asked with no reply from players on several occasions. 

[Excalibur1987]

I will add that the BB / cruisers have limited AA fire also. 

[ilhilh]

Not necessarily a battleship by itself but let me give you a scenario.

 

A cruiser is with other battleships and cruisers heading towards the enemy, it is further behind, allied vessels are in range of two enemy carriers, enemy carriers deploy all air wings against cruiser outside firing range and ignore enemy battleship and cruiser inside firing range only to end up loosing the battle. 

 

While in reality logical players would focus on enemy on their doorstep, to cause damage / make them change direction so you can get out. 

 

Depends on the BB/CA cruiser within range (not sure what within range is for a class with unlimited range).  The cruiser on its own could legitimately be the better target for the CV than 2 ships together that could easily have far greater AA defence..

 

Also many players can't read a minimap and various other visual cues within the game to see how a game is going.

[Excalibur1987]

Well in this particular game, the BB and cruiser was right on top of them, and the cruiser was further away.

 

Just seemed as the though the fire was deliberately focused on that particular ship for no reason rather than a practical reason i.e. in range, threat etc.

 

So hence why I wonder is it players having a grudge / bullying tactics. 

[Procrastes]

And yes the question has been asked with no reply from players on several occasions.

 

Well, then I'd say that the same question - namely, "Why the ---- did he do that?" - tends to pop up regularly to us all in the game. We all play the game differently, and make different tactical choices. More than once, I have wondered about the actions of my allies, only to later find them vindicated by how the battle turned out. My advice would be to let it slide. It's only a game, after all.

[krautjaeger]

All of this is too vague to give a concrete answer. The reason for focusing a particular ship can be many, even if it is out of the way. It could be that people recognize the player as good and primary him so he's out of the way early on in the game, primaried because of ship-type for reasons the team knows, the ship is extremely pop'able and guns out of the game is good, or that for some other reason the guy calling out the focus-command wanted to call out on the ship in front of it but the game registered it as the ship way behind it. At any rate, depending on match, players, composition, situation and so on and so forth there are many different reasons why you would primary/focus on a ship/player not exactly on the front lines.

[MudMonkey]

OP, do you know that there is even an "F-key" which marks a target? It is used so that other team mates will start to fire at that target. Why should it be wrong to fire with several ships at one target? Sometimes it is really hard for me to follow the logic of some ppl.

[bushwacker001]

Well in this particular game, the BB and cruiser was right on top of them, and the cruiser was further away.

 

Just seemed as the though the fire was deliberately focused on that particular ship for no reason rather than a practical reason i.e. in range, threat etc.

 

So hence why I wonder is it players having a grudge / bullying tactics. 

 

Could be any number of reasons.....

CV could be just trying to get in a last pile of damage before he dies at an easy target.

He is stupid

he is aware that player is really good/bad (xvm thingy)

The target has ginger camo (joke)

those stated above and so on

 

The last thing to be called is bullying especially in a pixel ship 

 

 

 

[Excalibur1987]

Your missing the point slightly, nothing wrong with doing it where it is valid, for tactical reasons.

Doing it because you may not like the player is when it is pathetic / childish. 

This is where the question was raised sometimes are people doing it because they hold a grudge against a particular player?

 

[anonym_MfZ6T7iwWpUC]

So if you have an enemy battleship on you and a cruiser way back it is easier to focus on the cruiser than the enemy battleship in your doorstep?

 

That seems pretty retarded to me and strategic suicide. 

Hahaha. Crickey. The whole point of targeting the cruiser, is because its a cruiser and you are a battleship. If you can aim and the angle is right, its probably an easy kill in just a couple of salvo's (maybe one). That gives your team a numerical and points advantage.

 

You always try to double, or triple up, against an enemy ship. Especially CV's. It impossible to dodge all the torps when they come at you from all angles.

 

That, is strategy.

[bushwacker001]

Doing it because you may not like the player is when it is pathetic / childish. 

 

This is where the question was raised sometimes are people doing it because they hold a grudge against a particular player?

 

 

The chances of even coming up against a player you know and don't like is really remote as it is but even if this is the case, it's not like they have burnt their home down or attacked them with a weapon. 

 

In this game there is more chance of going out of your way to fire on an enemy's ship if you know him because he is a clan mate or friend. 

[anonym_MfZ6T7iwWpUC]

Your missing the point slightly, nothing wrong with doing it where it is valid, for tactical reasons.

 

Doing it because you may not like the player is when it is pathetic / childish. 

 

This is where the question was raised sometimes are people doing it because they hold a grudge against a particular player?

 

How do you hold a grudge against a player in WoWs?

 

Do you remember who you played with/against? How often do you get the same people in successive random battles?

[Excalibur1987]

"Hahaha. Crickey. The whole point of targeting the cruiser, is because its a cruiser and you are a battleship. If you can aim and the angle is right, its probably an easy kill in just a couple of salvo's (maybe one). That gives your team a numerical and points advantage."

 

I was referring to CV's

 

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How do you hold a grudge against a player in WoWs?

 

Do you remember who you played with/against? How often do you get the same people in successive random battles?"

 

Sometimes you do, occasionally in chat had people say attack a friendly because of a previous battle,