Tekacko Players 309 posts 6,030 battles Report post #1 Posted June 6, 2017 I mean, what is this sh*t? 9/10 matches: The only or one of the few TVI cruisers in the match filled with 10 f*cking Bismarcks or Tirpitzes. All those retarded potatoes just keep sniping from 19km, and what the hell am I supposed to do with my 13.9km (!) range? If I even want to shoot at something I have to get so goddamn close that all Battleships and their mothers weill stop doing whatever they were doing and instantly delete me. What for? To bring my extremely mediocre dpm to bear? I know this ship works well close up but try closing in on a Bismarck or a Tirpitz... so much fun! They only way to have fun in this is to get into a T VI match, which happens pretty much never because of all this ****ing german BB proliferation. Or you have a match with T8 BBs and T6 cruisers - basically free food for the BB potatoes. I am really not having fun in this damn thing. Am I really supposed to play the Belfast/Fiji 24/7 if I want to have fun playing cruisers? Because that gets boring pretty fast. I am never getting a T6 premium ever again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Admiral_Noif Weekend Tester 873 posts 6,620 battles Report post #2 Posted June 6, 2017 (edited) Premium items cant be refunded, but hey... Don't play aggressive style against high tier ships. Also you get more rewards to doing dmg to high tier ships ;) Edited June 6, 2017 by Admiral_Noif Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ferry_25 Players 4,392 posts 12,107 battles Report post #3 Posted June 6, 2017 I hear you. Just keep it in port until the Bismarck hype has blown over. It will sooner or later. And like Noif said: being over tiered is not that big of a disaster. Shooting higher tier ships is giving much bigger rewards. But having said that: I can't say I'm enjoying Aosta 1 bit. I'll let it collect dust and try it out much, much later. IMO nerf the torps/ speed a bit an make it a T5 ship. But that's just my POV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FIFO] ilhilh [FIFO] Beta Tester 2,451 posts 7,514 battles Report post #4 Posted June 6, 2017 Tier 6 was a sorry tier to play before the duca was released and you probably knew that. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FFP] IsamuKondera Supertest Coordinator, Modder 1,365 posts 13,372 battles Report post #5 Posted June 6, 2017 Premium items cant be refunded, but hey... Don't play aggressive style against high tier ships. Also you get more rewards to doing dmg to high tier ships ;) As far as I know you can withdraw a transaction 2 weeks in... but they will ban you afterwards from buying other stuff... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,670 battles Report post #6 Posted June 6, 2017 As far as I know you can withdraw a transaction 2 weeks in... In 14 days, but only if you did not play the ship at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ferry_25 Players 4,392 posts 12,107 battles Report post #7 Posted June 6, 2017 Tier 6 was a sorry tier to play before the duca was released and you probably knew that. Hmmm. I wouldn't go that far ilhilh. With Fuso, Aoba, Bayern, Buddy, Warspite, La Gal, New Mex/ Arizona I have the feeling I can still be a PIA. For the rest IMO T6 suffers the absolute most in the tier discrimination. IMO it's easier to take on against a T7 in a 5. Or a 9 in a 7, 10 in 8 than 6 to 8... I can really relate to the +/- 1 T difference tolerance in mm. At the very least untill T7... 8's can do fine in 10 matches IMO. I still have to meet the first Yamato who doesn't take my Tirpitz serious... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tekacko Players 309 posts 6,030 battles Report post #8 Posted June 6, 2017 (edited) Tier 6 was a sorry tier to play before the duca was released and you probably knew that. TVI was "okay" I knew Tier 5 was the crap one. But now? T5 is trash, T6 is trash, and T8 is also pretty much trash Edited June 6, 2017 by Tekacko Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HALON] Amon_ITA Players 708 posts 13,072 battles Report post #9 Posted June 6, 2017 Strange, I have zero problems with the Duca d'Aosta. I find her difficult to hit for battleships at more than 10 km's. If you have isles around and develop a plan you can support destroyers in capping objective with ease. Apart from that I like to escort battleships and draw fire away from them. Torps can be nasty too. I like her, a lot. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ALONE] Smeggo Modder 2,485 posts 15,344 battles Report post #10 Posted June 6, 2017 Keep her for PvE-Operations, she will probably fit well there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlwaysBadLuckWithTeams Weekend Tester 1,469 posts 37,910 battles Report post #11 Posted June 6, 2017 13.9km (!) range I am never getting a T6 premium ever again Buy an Atlanta. She is tier 7. I mean she has to have a better range, being all higher and such, right ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POPPY] Chaos_Umbra [POPPY] Players 1,662 posts 20,300 battles Report post #12 Posted June 6, 2017 Lol the Duca D'Aosta is one of the best tier 6 cruisers around topping in speed and maneuverability while having stealth torping capabilities and really good AP at 10km against broadside cruisers, heck it eats Kuzutovs for breakfast, if you can't bring out the best in it it's your fault not the ship it has all the potential to stop itself being deleted, heck it has one of my highest win rates only beaten by a few ships I own. And it is capable at tier 8 you just have to pick your fights well and always be on the move. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,670 battles Report post #13 Posted June 6, 2017 it eats Kuzutovs for breakfast ...any decent player in a Kutuzov will eat Duca for breakfast, no smoke needed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] G01ngToxicCommand0 Beta Tester 2,177 posts 23,318 battles Report post #14 Posted June 6, 2017 the level of retarded players is beyond what I am willing to accept, there really is not point in playing a game where most players are low double digit IQ windowlickers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tekacko Players 309 posts 6,030 battles Report post #15 Posted June 6, 2017 (edited) Lol the Duca D'Aosta is one of the best tier 6 cruisers around topping in speed and maneuverability while having stealth torping capabilities and really good AP at 10km against broadside cruisers, heck it eats Kuzutovs for breakfast, if you can't bring out the best in it it's your fault not the ship it has all the potential to stop itself being deleted, heck it has one of my highest win rates only beaten by a few ships I own. And it is capable at tier 8 you just have to pick your fights well and always be on the move. I do not remember saying anywhere I did not know how to play the ship well? I am just saying that it is plainly UNFUN to play in the current MM state. I would not pay Doubloons for a ship in which I had to sweat the whole match against terrible MM just to try and pull off a win. And I think Premum ships should be FUN to play in the first place. The Duca is great at tier 6 and will probably be pretty good in rankeds. In this T8 crap MM tho? Nah, simply not worth the effort. Also, The Kutuzov will simply angle and eat your face off with superior firepower. No way you can beat a competent Kutuzov player. Edited June 6, 2017 by Tekacko 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tekacko Players 309 posts 6,030 battles Report post #16 Posted June 6, 2017 (edited) Strange, I have zero problems with the Duca d'Aosta. I find her difficult to hit for battleships at more than 10 km's. If you have isles around and develop a plan you can support destroyers in capping objective with ease. Apart from that I like to escort battleships and draw fire away from them. Torps can be nasty too. I like her, a lot. Funny, I am getting bow overmatched by Amagis and Bismarcks all the time. Edited June 6, 2017 by Tekacko Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,855 battles Report post #17 Posted June 6, 2017 Playing a Duca in a game with Tier VIII BBs is no fun, I know exactly what the OP is feeling. It's a big 'ol ship and getting it into gun range is likely to result in instadeath. Really it needs a consumable tweak - as a premium ship there should be no problems with giving it a three charge spotter plane with a reduced cooldown, to give it proper, but limited, windows where it can engage higher Tier ships properly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HALON] Amon_ITA Players 708 posts 13,072 battles Report post #18 Posted June 6, 2017 Funny, I am getting bow overmatched by Amagis and Bismarcks all the time. Sorry to hear that, my opinion does not change because of that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tekacko Players 309 posts 6,030 battles Report post #19 Posted June 6, 2017 Playing a Duca in a game with Tier VIII BBs is no fun, I know exactly what the OP is feeling. It's a big 'ol ship and getting it into gun range is likely to result in instadeath. Really it needs a consumable tweak - as a premium ship there should be no problems with giving it a three charge spotter plane with a reduced cooldown, to give it proper, but limited, windows where it can engage higher Tier ships properly. Well I definitely wouldn´t buy a ship to snipe from max range for maybe 5 DPM. I could just get a Budyonny and do it better for free. As I said, the Duca is perfectly fine and fun to play in a decent MM match. Why have a match with 9 T8 ships, 2 T7 ships and one poor sod in a T6? What is the point. I mean, WoT is a MUCH worse game than warships, but the new MM is one of the few things the got right, with only a certain limited number of +2 top tier vehicles present in every match. That means that the bottom tiers still see plenty of same-tiered stuff in a match. The MM simply needs to be unf*cked and BBs looked at, but that horse is pretty much hamburger meat at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drunken_Jedi Players 849 posts 2,954 battles Report post #20 Posted June 6, 2017 I love the Duca! When you're bottom tier just play more conservatively at least until you can act without being an immediate target of tier VIII BBs. Use islands for cover and use them as concealment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #21 Posted June 6, 2017 I mean, what is this sh*t? 9/10 matches: The only or one of the few TVI cruisers in the match filled with 10 f*cking Bismarcks or Tirpitzes. All those retarded potatoes just keep sniping from 19km, and what the hell am I supposed to do with my 13.9km (!) range? If I even want to shoot at something I have to get so goddamn close that all Battleships and their mothers weill stop doing whatever they were doing and instantly delete me. What for? To bring my extremely mediocre dpm to bear? I know this ship works well close up but try closing in on a Bismarck or a Tirpitz... so much fun! They only way to have fun in this is to get into a T VI match, which happens pretty much never because of all this ****ing german BB proliferation. Or you have a match with T8 BBs and T6 cruisers - basically free food for the BB potatoes. I am really not having fun in this damn thing. Am I really supposed to play the Belfast/Fiji 24/7 if I want to have fun playing cruisers? Because that gets boring pretty fast. I am never getting a T6 premium ever again You knew before how Tier VI MM looks like. You knew before that the BB population is out of hand. The Duca is one of your best performing Tier VI cruisers. What exactly is your problem? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POPPY] Chaos_Umbra [POPPY] Players 1,662 posts 20,300 battles Report post #22 Posted June 6, 2017 Playing a Duca in a game with Tier VIII BBs is no fun, I know exactly what the OP is feeling. It's a big 'ol ship and getting it into gun range is likely to result in instadeath. Really it needs a consumable tweak - as a premium ship there should be no problems with giving it a three charge spotter plane with a reduced cooldown, to give it proper, but limited, windows where it can engage higher Tier ships properly. Anyone say tier 8 heavy MM? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tekacko Players 309 posts 6,030 battles Report post #23 Posted June 6, 2017 (edited) You knew before how Tier VI MM looks like. You knew before that the BB population is out of hand. The Duca is one of your best performing Tier VI cruisers. What exactly is your problem? My problem is that I keep getting into T8 matches where I am the only T6 (not the ship´s problem) and that the Duca is simply unbearably boring to play in such matches. I´d much rather be in the Leander where I can at least dish out pain out of smoke, or in a Budyonny which has actual dpm. Duca has neither survivability (no amount of dodging seems to prevent "random" citadels from stray inaccurate german BB shells)/we could argue that this holds true for all cruisers/, neither the DPM which feels extremely anemic without IFHE (I do not feel like playing her enough to get a second T4 skill). Sure, it has good stealth which works really well in T6 matches, where even BBs need to come closer. But T8? The moment you fire at something from your puny range you will be the closest thing to the enemy team, leading to your demise. Not to mention that the ships you want to face in the Duca - Cruisers - are present in very low numbers in T8 matches. So you practically need a US DD to babysit you with smokes or hug islands (which does not work too well due to how "good" your shell arcs are So what is my problem? I obviously had to get deleted by a Bismarck from 13km dodging bow on, because RNG sad F*CK YOU, and now I am salty af due to how extremely boring and stale the game currently is. Edited June 6, 2017 by Tekacko Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UTW] ShinGetsu Weekend Tester, In AlfaTesters 8,985 posts 7,359 battles Report post #24 Posted June 6, 2017 Ranked will probably be t6, and that tier should be fun again in this mode. Also, yes, braindead Bismarck and Tirpitzes floods the server. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #25 Posted June 6, 2017 My problem is that I keep getting into T8 matches where I am the only T6 (not the ship´s problem) and that the Duca is simply unbearably boring to play in such matches. I´d much rather be in the Leander where I can at least dish out pain out of smoke, or in a Budyonny which has actual dpm. Duca has neither survivability (no amount of dodging seems to prevent "random" citadels from stray inaccurate german BB shells)/we could argue that this holds true for all cruisers/, neither the DPM which feels extremely anemic without IFHE (I do not feel like playing her enough to get a second T4 skill). Sure, it has good stealth which works really well in T6 matches, where even BBs need to come closer. But T8? The moment you fire at something from your puny range you will be the closest thing to the enemy team, leading to your demise. Not to mention that the ships you want to face in the Duca - Cruisers - are present in very low numbers in T8 matches. So you practically need a US DD to babysit you with smokes or hug islands (which does not work too well due to how "good" your shell arcs are So what is my problem? I obviously had to get deleted by a Bismarck from 13km dodging bow on, because RNG sad F*CK YOU, and now I am salty af due to how extremely boring and stale the game currently is. And it is still one of your best perfoming Tier VI cruiser. What did you expect? Oneshotting all opposition? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
