Regarding Gold share between WOWS and WOT

[Icesoft]

Dear All

 

Just jumped on board of WOWS again after the beta stage of the game, and I would like to see the possibility to transfer Gold/EXP between the two games.

 

I know many would say that' We DONT want people play higher tier ships from day1' but people could buy tier 8 in game from day 1 anyway and we are dealing with such teammates in WOT everyday PLUS its fun~

 

Just wanted my Missouri really fast.

 

Regards

 

 

[von_chom]

they are still having "technical" problems i guess 

they just keep on lying in this matter, its utterly disgusting

but i have made my choice...no more premium acc

[Icesoft]

they are still having "technical" problems i guess 

they just keep on lying in this matter, its utterly disgusting

but i have made my choice...no more premium acc

 

My highest non-premium ship is only tier 7 and I still need premium acc to get to tier 10 fast      I would have spend a lot of cash in this game already if I could exchange free exp from WOT to WOWS

[fallenkezef]

I want a credit share like with WoT/WoWP. Especialy with the Brit BBs coming. I'm loaded on WoT

[von_chom]

I want a credit share like with WoT/WoWP. Especialy with the Brit BBs coming. I'm loaded on WoT

 

thats not true, the credits are not shared.

what was promised was freexp and gold

[Icesoft]

 

thats not true, the credits are not shared.

what was promised was freexp and gold

 

Free exp and Gold would do for me, I got more than 2 million freexp and would like to use em all in WOWS

[beercrazy]

ok this is how it went

in closed beta we was promised the full cross account stuff same as wot, wowp

wg decided after the open beta release of wows that the xp and credit couldn't be useable for all due to such a scale of how much you get per game in wows to wot/wowp which in my view is fair as it is a lot easier to get credits and xp in wows

the premium account was integrated as promised but wg decided it would not integrate the gold because it just didn't want to

though the advertising for the games explain full integration for accounts wg still told us players that complained to virtually get stuffed

 

this thread will be closed soon due to it "not being constructive" or some other rubbish a mod will use to close it and make it disappear

 

[fallenkezef]

 

thats not true, the credits are not shared.

what was promised was freexp and gold

 

really? My bad, thought they where.

 

[Jethro_Grey]

Dear All

 

Just jumped on board of WOWS again after the beta stage of the game, and I would like to see the possibility to transfer Gold/EXP between the two games.

 

I know many would say that' We DONT want people play higher tier ships from day1' but people could buy tier 8 in game from day 1 anyway and we are dealing with such teammates in WOT everyday PLUS its fun~

 

Just wanted my Missouri really fast.

 

Regards

 

 

 

Gold yes, XP no effin way!

WG already stated that they 'll never allow that XP get transfered between games, as WoWS allows you to earn much more XP per game than WoT.

 

Having a new player is a TVIIIis bad enough, havíng a WoT player and wanna-be expert is far worse. 

 

[Aotearas]

 

My highest non-premium ship is only tier 7 and I still need premium acc to get to tier 10 fast      I would have spend a lot of cash in this game already if I could exchange free exp from WOT to WOWS

 

Free XP exchange is legitimately impossible due to the different XP economy between the two games. Last time this was discussed, WoT players said you earn a good deal more XP (and thus free XP) in WoWs than in WoT. And an arbitrary exchange rate would just make people pissy anyway.

 

Gold transfer however, there's nothing to stop that from happening other than Wargaming's greed. And the argument that players could just boost their way up the tiers with gold is nonsense. elite ship XP to free XP conversion requires elite ship XP in the first place. Even with all the gold in the world a new player couldn't just boost to tier X without playing an equal XP's worth. And Wargaming isn't stopping from newbies buying tier VIII premium ships the moment they started an account either so that argument simply doesn't fly.

[von_chom]

due to such a scale of how much you get per game in wows to wot/wowp which in my view is fair as it is a lot easier to get credits and xp in wows

 

 

 

thats nonsence, WG themselves ( Tuccy to be exact) confirmed that the XP gain is scaled based on the average game length.

This is also reason why we dont have daily 100% but 50%

 

so please stop spreading such stuff

[Migulaitor]

thats nonsence, WG themselves ( Tuccy to be exact) confirmed that the XP gain is scaled based on the average game length.

 

Yes but we still have those crazy flags allowing you to have games with 3k+ free xp.

About the gold, no idea why they dont put them togheter, they already got payed.

[beercrazy]

 

thats nonsence, WG themselves ( Tuccy to be exact) confirmed that the XP gain is scaled based on the average game length.

This is also reason why we dont have daily 100% but 50%

 

so please stop spreading such stuff

 

but we can add camo and flags to our ships which can get you a damn sight more credits and xp

I aint saying wg shouldn't add xp or credits cos they promised us joint accounts the same as wot and wowp is and the sodding tight gits haven't given us any of it except premium time

no mater how much we cry scream and kick in wgs back door we wont get diddly squat when it comes to full integrated accounts and if we persist the threads will get removed like all the times we have complained about this type of unfair treatment of their customers

 

 

[von_chom]

sure, the camo and flags change the whole subject by a lot, no doubt about it. Thanks to that its indeed impossible to implement now.

However what i wanted to point out by my remark above was, that in the beginning it was taken into account (xp gain difference/time spend in battle).

but then, the greed has won .... 

[Icesoft]

 

Gold yes, XP no effin way!

WG already stated that they 'll never allow that XP get transfered between games, as WoWS allows you to earn much more XP per game than WoT.

 

Having a new player is a TVIIIis bad enough, havíng a WoT player and wanna-be expert is far worse. 

 

 

Emmm really? I often get more than 1000 exp per battle in WOT(base exp) and from my personally exp, id say the base exp gain between WOT and WOWS are not that different.

 

This game have to be funded one way or another, they need to pay for the server, salary of their staff, office rent... etc... Free to play or monthly payment? Many would choose free to play.

 

If a paying customer decide that he/she wanna play higer tier game and sucks, many would bear with them because they are paying for the service that everybody's using.

 

All in all, his is a game, people are playing for fun, not everyone can be a great player.  And I believe I have already learnt the basic of the game.

 

BTW, im leveling a lot faster than other people anyway, i have premium acc and I use 100% exp boost flags etc... which means you cant stop noobs from playing higher tier.

 

 

 

 

[Aotearas]

If a paying customer decide that he/she wanna play higer tier game and sucks, many would bear with them because they are paying for the service that everybody's using.

 

All in all, his is a game, people are playing for fun, not everyone can be a great player.  And I believe I have already learnt the basic of the game.

 

You'd be surprised how many people's definition of fun also involves winning, or conversely not losing because a toptier ship was derping around aimlessly. And do tell me more about how many would bear with potatoes in hightiers. I think you haven't had yet the dubious pleasure of having a hightier CV in your team that's either a flat-out bot just circling his aircraft over his CV, or only marginally better a potato that never learned how to manual attack and is using autodrops only plus never strafing with his fighters, or scounting, or actively trying to intercept the enemy CV's strikes, or try to engage enemy fighters as they are keeping your team's DDs spotted the entire time (which renders them largely useless unless they're pure gunboats, in which case it only lowers their life expectancy a good bit).

 

And if you think that might sound mighty inconveniencing, add an actually competent/skilled enemy CV player which can and WILL absolutely wreck your entire team in absence of effective opposition as he's just happily farming damage.

 

 

In short: no, as you go up the tiers you'll find it increasingly frustrating to see ships that could make a huge impact just dillydallying around and throwing winnable games away by sheer incompetence.

To be entirely fair, not every game is as bad as the example I gave, but when that particular breed of misery crashes your game, I can almost guarantee you won't be feeling especially tolerant.

[Icesoft]

 

You'd be surprised how many people's definition of fun also involves winning, or conversely not losing because a toptier ship was derping around aimlessly. And do tell me more about how many would bear with potatoes in hightiers. I think you haven't had yet the dubious pleasure of having a hightier CV in your team that's either a flat-out bot just circling his aircraft over his CV, or only marginally better a potato that never learned how to manual attack and is using autodrops only plus never strafing with his fighters, or scounting, or actively trying to intercept the enemy CV's strikes, or try to engage enemy fighters as they are keeping your team's DDs spotted the entire time (which renders them largely useless unless they're pure gunboats, in which case it only lowers their life expectancy a good bit).

 

And if you think that might sound mighty inconveniencing, add an actually competent/skilled enemy CV player which can and WILL absolutely wreck your entire team in absence of effective opposition as he's just happily farming damage.

 

 

In short: no, as you go up the tiers you'll find it increasingly frustrating to see ships that could make a huge impact just dillydallying around and throwing winnable games away by sheer incompetence.

To be entirely fair, not every game is as bad as the example I gave, but when that particular breed of misery crashes your game, I can almost guarantee you won't be feeling especially tolerant.

 

Ive been playing WOT for a long time and trust me the samething happened here, we got top tier tanks who have no idea how to play the game and die with in seconds, but As long as I could 'use' them(meat shield, decoy, you name it.) and get a good game myself, im fine with it. Plus if you wanna play competitive, you could find a team and try hard in clanwar.  In random battle Ive manage to get a eff of 1400+ and a Win8 of 1950+, and I believe even if you give me tier 10 ships in game, I will be able to manage to learn it to an acceptable level really fast.

 

The thing is, you could not stop people from playing higher tier, noobs buy accounts from Ebay

[Jethro_Grey]

 

Emmm really? I often get more than 1000 exp per battle in WOT(base exp) and from my personally exp, id say the base exp gain between WOT and WOWS are not that different.

 

This game have to be funded one way or another, they need to pay for the server, salary of their staff, office rent... etc... Free to play or monthly payment? Many would choose free to play.

 

If a paying customer decide that he/she wanna play higer tier game and sucks, many would bear with them because they are paying for the service that everybody's using.

 

All in all, his is a game, people are playing for fun, not everyone can be a great player.  And I believe I have already learnt the basic of the game.

 

BTW, im leveling a lot faster than other people anyway, i have premium acc and I use 100% exp boost flags etc... which means you cant stop noobs from playing higher tier.

 

 

 

 

 

I very rarely have less 1000xp in WoWS on a defeat, WoWS is different from WoT.

Just take a look at the XP requirements for tanks up to tier VII and then compare them to WoWS. 

I doubt WG will go through the hassle of adjusting them to be equal and pi$$ing off one playerbase or the other.

 

While i'm not a super-competetive player i very much like to win after doing 150k+ damage to ships and there are sure many others like me.

And how we bear high tier potatoes can be seen by the regular chatbans we get. ^^

 

You are right that not everyone can be a great player, nor does everyone has to be.

But, like in WoT there are players who have good stats and there are players with bad stats.

The former are not necessarily "good teamplayers" which i consider to be the best kind of player.

Being bad at something isn't something unforgiveable, not attempting to change is.

 

Anyways, do yourself and the other eleven  players in your team a favor and grind one line, preferably the line which has a similar game play like the premium ship you wanna buy. 

 

[Icesoft]

 

I very rarely have less 1000xp in WoWS on a defeat, WoWS is different from WoT.

Just take a look at the XP requirements for tanks up to tier VII and then compare them to WoWS. 

I doubt WG will go through the hassle of adjusting them to be equal and pi$$ing off one playerbase or the other.

 

While i'm not a super-competetive player i very much like to win after doing 150k+ damage to ships and there are sure many others like me.

And how we bear high tier potatoes can be seen by the regular chatbans we get. ^^

 

You are right that not everyone can be a great player, nor does everyone has to be.

But, like in WoT there are players who have good stats and there are players with bad stats.

The former are not necessarily "good teamplayers" which i consider to be the best kind of player.

Being bad at something isn't something unforgiveable, not attempting to change is.

 

Anyways, do yourself and the other eleven  players in your team a favor and grind one line, preferably the line which has a similar game play like the premium ship you wanna buy. 

 

 

Guess I will just have to purchase a few tier 8 ships to grind     Thanks for the reply and Good luck on the battlefield my friend!

[Jethro_Grey]

 

Guess I will just have to purchase a few tier 8 ships to grind     Thanks for the reply and Good luck on the battlefield my friend!

 

Why do you need to buy TVIII ships to grind silver ships?  

[Blue_Bug]

I have to Agree with von_chom. The text in the signature of von_chom is the text that was puplished on the support page of WG. Somewhere after release of WoWs this text disapeared.

 

In CBT and Beta of WoWS , WG promised us multiple times that at release , gold and free xp will be shared.

Just before or after Release they said, that it would take some weeks to implement it.

A while after release they said that Gold will be shared, but they weren't sure about free -xp.

At this time we are still waiting for the sharing for gold.

 

I can understand that they don't want to share Free XP. However that promise was made.  I think that quite a few players acted  on that. I my self bought in the time of CBT some (discounted) gold in WoT for use in WoWS. I also spend some of that gold to transfer elite xp into free-xp in WoT , to use in WoWS.

 

I see no reason  why gold isn't shared between WoT and WoWs, when that gold is bought with real money. There could be some problems with gold earned on the global map in WoT. However this concerns very few players. So I can't see why this has to take so long. They can always first do the share thing and later on change the rule that only bought gold can be shared. That way they  will keep a part of their promise at last.

 

 

[krautjaeger]

A few days ago, can't remember if it was TAP; Rita or TDB, it was a small mention that they've started looking at merging gold/doubloons but it was still a bit time left. At least they've started on it, who knows when it's done.

[Blue_Bug]

 

Gold yes, XP no effin way!

WG already stated that they 'll never allow that XP get transfered between games, as WoWS allows you to earn much more XP per game than WoT.

 

Having a new player is a TVIIIis bad enough, havíng a WoT player and wanna-be expert is far worse. 

 

 

I don't know if it is still the same, but I'm sure that in the past Free XP was shared between WoT and WoWP.  So I don't know who from WG stated this, but the statement is flawed.

[Kartoffelmos]

It doesn't really matter though, since you can more easily boost the free XP gain in WoWs than in WoT. As such, I don't think that unified free XP will ever happen, nor do I think that it should (new players wasting free XP without learning the game, instant Missouri, etc.). 

[AkosJaccik]

Hoo boy, I just imagined the other way around-scenario in my case. I'm somewhat loaded in WoWs, doing okay, having fun, good average stats, whatnot.

In WoT? I'm a rolling tomato-plant, as such, I try to stick to the low tiers. There is no way around it, seriously, as you can imagine, I'm not proud of it, but by God I am horrible. I use stupid crew, practically no gold ammo, only one tank of mine has any upgrades and frankly, most of the time, I just get pwned. I very rarely play it, I don't care about it at all, and it shows.

 

...but if we get unified account, then hello, easy T10! That will be fun. For everyone.

 

So yes. I'm against unified XP. As of currently, there is still not a valuable and in-depth tutorial in-game, so actually grinding the trees instead of skipping should be the tutorial.