[RM_] 4blacks Players 4 posts 5,778 battles Report post #1 Posted June 5, 2017 Can I have a decent team sometimes?For me is the MM that decides Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MPT] AkosJaccik Players 920 posts 11,177 battles Report post #2 Posted June 5, 2017 I'd just like to say before the show begins - you came to the right place. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Mr_Tayto Players 1,099 posts 10,119 battles Report post #3 Posted June 5, 2017 I'd just like to say before the show begins - you came to the right place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Bear__Necessities Players 5,291 posts 15,376 battles Report post #4 Posted June 5, 2017 You sure it's the team... #checkstats Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[4_0_4] Zemeritt Players 9,337 posts 16,243 battles Report post #5 Posted June 5, 2017 You sure it's the team... #checkstats Found something interresting? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Mr_Tayto Players 1,099 posts 10,119 battles Report post #6 Posted June 5, 2017 Found something interresting? Bear is my division-mate and he's already told me what he's found on VOIP. In between fits of giggles... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vaderan Alpha Tester 1,103 posts 2,741 battles Report post #7 Posted June 5, 2017 Can I have a decent team sometimes?For me is the MM that decides The MM decides the team setup. The rest is you and RNG. Your average damage with your Bismarck indicates, that you are doing something wrong (or have incredibly bad luck with RNG). What´s your "standard" engagement distance with your Bismarck? Do you run a secondary build? Always check first, where you might have space for improvement, before blaiming others... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[72] mikelight1805 [72] Beta Tester 453 posts 14,842 battles Report post #8 Posted June 5, 2017 Your average damage is 20k lower than server average. Do you push in too hard too early and get focused down? if that's the case, its neither the MM or the team........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CG] Redcap375 Players 4,371 posts 15,295 battles Report post #9 Posted June 5, 2017 Your average damage is 20k lower than server average. Do you push in too hard too early and get focused down? if that's the case, its neither the MM or the team........ Please see above. The PRIME reason for newish BB captains, especially in the Bismarck which pulls you in like a magnet! Its a fantastic area denial BB, get some cover with a good arc of fire and you can completely own an given cap. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IceyJones Beta Tester 1,286 posts Report post #10 Posted June 5, 2017 dont feed the troll Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POP] Altsak Players 791 posts 16,516 battles Report post #11 Posted June 5, 2017 I do with my Bismarck what I do with my DDs. B*lls to the walls and straight to the closest cap. Too bad no one follows. Not even the other DDs. But no frigging BB camping for me! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Philipp_ab_exterminatore Alpha Tester 1,191 posts 8,097 battles Report post #12 Posted June 6, 2017 Never go alone in a BB when there are DDs or CV push with an aggressive part of your team. Dying early in a Bismarck could cost your team the battle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
P2Win Beta Tester 808 posts 8,067 battles Report post #13 Posted June 6, 2017 The secret to playing bismark is playing it like a DD. Don't snipe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WAFU] Larky2k Weekend Tester 185 posts 1,294 battles Report post #14 Posted June 6, 2017 Please see above. The PRIME reason for newish BB captains, especially in the Bismarck which pulls you in like a magnet! Its a fantastic area denial BB, get some cover with a good arc of fire and you can completely own an given cap. In a Tier 8 Match yes but if you get dumped in a T10 match then your just a Floating BBQ. Just Had a Match in my DM and Barbequed 2 Bismarck's with 0 damage to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RM_] 4blacks Players 4 posts 5,778 battles Report post #15 Posted June 6, 2017 Obviously my stats with Bismarck are not good! Can a player have good statistics if his team loses often? But explain this to me: Konig 65% WR Average Damage 35100 Bayern 57% WR Average damage 40900Gneisenau 55% WR Average Damage 40200Bismarck 35% WR Average Damage 42500 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
albinbino Players 662 posts 11,080 battles Report post #16 Posted June 6, 2017 You are focusing on wrong stats, win rate is not indicator. Damage stats are more relevant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HABIT] Tungstonid Beta Tester 1,568 posts Report post #17 Posted June 6, 2017 I do with my Bismarck what I do with my DDs. B*lls to the walls and straight to the closest cap. Too bad no one follows. Not even the other DDs. But no frigging BB camping for me! There is a difference between playing the objective and doing a pointless suicide rush. Have a guess what your strategy sounds like... The former includes retreating/kiting the enemy if you have little to no support. The latter just puts your team at a disadvantage most of the times. The art is to find a suitable middle way between borderline camping and yolo rushing. If it is pushing with the rest of the team, great. If it is retreating and kiting because you are outnumbered and outgunned... not ideal, but it can't be helped. But charging in no matter what and dying early because you don't want to be called a camper is maybe even more harmful than camping. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CG] Redcap375 Players 4,371 posts 15,295 battles Report post #18 Posted June 6, 2017 In a Tier 8 Match yes but if you get dumped in a T10 match then your just a Floating BBQ. Just Had a Match in my DM and Barbequed 2 Bismarck's with 0 damage to me. Well yes that's what tends to happen when your in a HE spammer, 2 tiers above ship from range (kuts spring to mind) which isnt hard. Would happen to any tier 8 BB, never mind the Bismarck. But that tells me that they LET you HE them to death at range. The Bismarck is not designed to fight at range, too inaccurate most of the time. Plus it still has tier 8 HP pool, which goes quick with 203 HE. He should be waiting close to a cap waiting for his time to pounce. Not completely hiding but enough to give people problems trying to cap. Gives your tier 10 ships time to pick them off whilst your a torn in the side. IMHO anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RM_] 4blacks Players 4 posts 5,778 battles Report post #19 Posted June 6, 2017 Another question: Generally, with my Bismarck, games are badly lost!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RM_] 4blacks Players 4 posts 5,778 battles Report post #20 Posted June 6, 2017 And for last:35% of WR is very very low WR and not just to be a problem of "how I shoot"Think of this: If I play AFK I would probably have a better WR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HU-SD] Prospect_b Players 2,655 posts 14,214 battles Report post #21 Posted June 6, 2017 And for last: 35% of WR is very very low WR and not just to be a problem of "how I shoot"Think of this: If I play AFK I would probably have a better WR Good you realize that. Anyhow its not just your bismarck, but also for example your north cal. (see https://eu.warships.today/player/501655116/4blacks) Go check what I recommended the other guy at http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/81176-win-rate/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BRITS] fallenkezef [BRITS] Players 1,788 posts 1,954 battles Report post #22 Posted June 6, 2017 I do with my Bismarck what I do with my DDs. B*lls to the walls and straight to the closest cap. Too bad no one follows. Not even the other DDs. But no frigging BB camping for me! I do the same in my Warspite. Sure, i die early because the rest of the team are camping morons, but i die gloriously with secondaries blazing away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UTW] ShinGetsu Weekend Tester, In AlfaTesters 8,985 posts 7,359 battles Report post #23 Posted June 6, 2017 And for last: 35% of WR is very very low WR and not just to be a problem of "how I shoot"Think of this: If I play AFK I would probably have a better WR Which means you're actively dragging your team down. Also 42k average damage is very low. I do that in a tier 5 cruiser. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BONUS] Hedgehog1963 [BONUS] Beta Tester 3,211 posts 14,951 battles Report post #24 Posted June 6, 2017 You should stick to North Carolina. You have 42% WR in that. Is that bad MM as well? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[72] mikelight1805 [72] Beta Tester 453 posts 14,842 battles Report post #25 Posted June 6, 2017 i would suggest you go back and play the Bayern some more. Its the pattern for the following KM BBs. Work on your survivability and damage output on that ship, then apply that to the Bismark Share this post Link to post Share on other sites