[OHFK] Tanya_Degurechaff Players 17 posts 10,085 battles Report post #1 Posted June 2, 2017 Hello users and Wargaming Team, Today it has come to my attention that the Russian Cruiser Shchors is in need of a serious nerf. It has the ability to spam HE way too much which results in much higher fire damage than other ships of the same tier and class (I know its not the fastest firing HE ship, Atlanta is but it has its drawbacks unlike the Shchors where there seems to be none) including a longer range than other CLs and CAs at the same Tier. Also for some reason it has the magical ability to bounce broadside 356mm AP shells which most were supposed to connect (probably RNG) but from around 8 kilometers there should be no reason for a full well aimed BB broadside to be bounced like that. Please fix this Wargaming, we know you love your Russian ships but this needs to stop, its breaking the game and making it more frustrating to play. Oh wait there's less to that, if I was in my Nagato that little bote would be dead. Apparently Glorious American AP doesn't always work .-. thats ghey. RNGesus pls. Get a bagel. or a baguette. or whatever, just don't burn my sushi. :3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #2 Posted June 2, 2017 Time for a You don't appear to own a Shchors... Grind up to it and play it, then come back and tell us how the ship is. 22 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #3 Posted June 2, 2017 Also for some reason it has the magical ability to bounce broadside 356mm AP shells which most were supposed to connect It doesn't. Shchors in fact has the worst armor out of all T7 cruisers. The only place it can bounce BB shells is via autobounce on the primary armor belt, but then again all cruisers are capable of that. Shchors doesn't need a nerf. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
creamgravy Players 2,780 posts 17,292 battles Report post #4 Posted June 2, 2017 I voted to nerf the OP armour. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daki Weekend Tester 1,677 posts 20,280 battles Report post #5 Posted June 2, 2017 Yet another BB bully thread crying about failing to molest and insta-delete a cruiser... 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] loppantorkel Players 4,506 posts 15,942 battles Report post #6 Posted June 2, 2017 Hello users and Wargaming Team, Today it has come to my attention that the Russian Cruiser Shchors is in need of a serious nerf. It has the ability to spam HE way too much which results in much higher fire damage than other ships of the same tier and class (I know its not the fastest firing HE ship, Atlanta is but it has its drawbacks unlike the Shchors where there seems to be none) including a longer range than other CLs and CAs at the same Tier. Also for some reason it has the magical ability to bounce broadside 356mm AP shells which most were supposed to connect (probably RNG) but from around 8 kilometers there should be no reason for a full well aimed BB broadside to be bounced like that. Please fix this Wargaming, we know you love your Russian ships but this needs to stop, its breaking the game and making it more frustrating to play. What does the stats say? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KaraMon Players 4,154 posts 9,221 battles Report post #7 Posted June 2, 2017 BBaby Bingo time!!! 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HU-SD] Prospect_b Players 2,655 posts 14,214 battles Report post #8 Posted June 2, 2017 (edited) Hello users and Wargaming Team, Today it has come to my attention that the Russian Cruiser Shchors is in need of a serious nerf. It has the ability to spam HE way too much which results in much higher fire damage than other ships of the same tier and class (I know its not the fastest firing HE ship, Atlanta is but it has its drawbacks unlike the Shchors where there seems to be none) including a longer range than other CLs and CAs at the same Tier. Also for some reason it has the magical ability to bounce broadside 356mm AP shells which most were supposed to connect (probably RNG) but from around 8 kilometers there should be no reason for a full well aimed BB broadside to be bounced like that. Please fix this Wargaming, we know you love your Russian ships but this needs to stop, its breaking the game and making it more frustrating to play. Are you insain? Please go indeed grind the schors itself, and then come say again about it's magical bounces. Have fun. Edit: voted the armor as well, maybe something like the troll t5 frenchie cruiser. Edited June 2, 2017 by PzychoPanzer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Migulaitor Players 748 posts Report post #9 Posted June 2, 2017 Are we talking about the same ship? I hate my Shchors, its just boring to play, pew pew from max range, you get close and you die. Stopped the line there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pra3y Players 3,021 posts 11,390 battles Report post #10 Posted June 2, 2017 How it feels this days......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #11 Posted June 2, 2017 Yes, the ship really stands out.... nowhere! Player Average for Ships [ at 2017/04/29 ] Nation Class Tier Name Win Damage Kills/Battle Survival KM CA 7 Yorck 45.80 25.884 0.48 26.09 US CA 7 Pensacola 45.89 28.955 0.53 26.97 JP CA 7 Myoko 47.28 33.370 0.62 28.48 SN CA 7 Shchors 47.87 38.498 0.70 25.90 RN CA 7 Fiji 49.77 39.439 0.86 30.82 US CA 7 Atlanta 50.66 31.484 0.72 23.53 MN CA 7 Algerie 51.99 44.248 0.82 33.53 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BRITS] fallenkezef [BRITS] Players 1,788 posts 1,954 battles Report post #12 Posted June 2, 2017 Belfast exists, yet OP whines about Schoes? OP is a muppet 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] eliastion Players 4,795 posts 12,260 battles Report post #13 Posted June 2, 2017 (edited) Shchors is about average in her performance among cruisers of t7: Worse than Fiji and Algerie, better than Myoko, Pensa and Yorck. True both for Win% and DMG. What's there to nerf? And that's at t7, where both BBs and DDs tend to outperform cruisers - so, if you were to take ALL t7 ship rather than just non-premium cruisers, our Shchors would actually place near the end... unless you count each Myoko clone as a different ship, then yes, Shors would end up propelled closer to the middle again. Either way, the numbers don't seem to suggest ANY need to nerf the ship. But don't let statistics get in the way of your personal frustration after one match where you failed hard and got your butt handed to you by a more competent Shchors player. But even with the amount of sh*t you're full of, dear OP, shouldn't you have the minimal decency to include the "nothing" option in your idiotic poll? Without such option even a poll about nerfing Belfast, Impregnator Nikolai or any other actually overperforming ship would be completely invalid. Edited June 2, 2017 by eliastion 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMMX] 1000guns Beta Tester 166 posts Report post #14 Posted June 2, 2017 nerf turning circle.. she is way too good for her tier! something like the moon's should do it, then she would be balanced 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skurfa Beta Tester 809 posts Report post #15 Posted June 2, 2017 Why don't people try playing the ships BEFORE comming to forums to complain about them? Often they'll get surprised, and hopefully figure out they're just bad players. It's all about the steps of learning... 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] 159Hunter Players 4,528 posts Report post #16 Posted June 2, 2017 Maybe complete your poll by adding the option: nothing. It's not because you think something should be nerfed, that everyone will agree to that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] eliastion Players 4,795 posts 12,260 battles Report post #17 Posted June 2, 2017 (edited) Why don't people try playing the ships BEFORE comming to forums to complain about them? Often they'll get surprised, and hopefully figure out they're just bad players. It's all about the steps of learning... Well, we have the chief anti-CV agitator who doesn't touch CVs with a long stick while otherwise being borderline unicum - so can we really expect the minimal decency of trying what they complain about from actual all-around baddies and/or beginners with sub-1000 matches? Edited June 2, 2017 by eliastion 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DEH] hellhound666 Beta Tester 1,978 posts Report post #18 Posted June 2, 2017 nerf x topic appears - go check stats of op - 45%wr - 600 battles - all clear, go to next topic 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BRITS] fallenkezef [BRITS] Players 1,788 posts 1,954 battles Report post #19 Posted June 2, 2017 Righed poll by a muppet. No option to say the ship is fine as is? Muppet OP is as fair and balanced as the BBC 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MIMI] MudMonkey Beta Tester 1,338 posts 8,375 battles Report post #20 Posted June 2, 2017 OP has left the room and won't be back. Ever. Probably. Next. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cosseria Players 1,064 posts 4,944 battles Report post #21 Posted June 2, 2017 I voted nerf armor, just for the lol. I also voted to nerf OP and reported him for pointless whining. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ferry_25 Players 4,392 posts 12,107 battles Report post #22 Posted June 2, 2017 With a gun on my head I'd pick "Nerf armor." Doesn't make zip shyte difference anyway! Congrats OP! For making the best bs topic in months! (did highly like Shcors very much for that matter). 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #23 Posted June 2, 2017 After 32 games I'm in the top 10% of server players in terms of average damage with 64k in Shchors, just saying Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IamTroublemaker Beta Tester 2,287 posts 11,047 battles Report post #24 Posted June 2, 2017 After checking your profile I can see you are still relatively new to the game. Still meeting new ships and so on. If I was in your place, I'd rather try to learn how to deal with certain things and thus learn to play better instead of coming to the forum and whining about something you clearly do not know. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tekacko Players 309 posts 6,030 battles Report post #25 Posted June 2, 2017 This is a bait, right? Anyway, I have 27 battles in the damn thing with an 86k average damage. OP actually IS on point with the "firepower" part of his rant - the Schors most definitely IS the best firestarter at T7, and with IFHE even deals ridiculous alpha damage and has great shell arcs, but all of this is balanced by it´s TOTAL squishiness. Hell, this thing has less armor than a Pensa (75mm? are we at tier 5 here?), a citadel above the waterline spanning the length of the ship and a turning radius that rivals a fat 70 year old granny riding a skateboard. Being T7 nowadays it obviously has to see 5x Bismarck/Tirpitz every match. Pensa can at least dodge their shells to some extent. This thing? no chance. I wonder why aren´t there like 6 Schors on each side in every match if it is so OP. Maybe some new meta... Or maybe the OP is a potato and has hopefully already uninstalled the game due to the flame he received. Nothing of value was lost anyway. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
