Anyone looking forward to a French CV line

[Amminus]

 

It’s not well known but there are a long line of French carriers so are they something that you would like to see soon

 

 

[Earl_of_Northesk]

There's only one WW2 French carrier. There will never be a line.

[Ragweek]

It will not be comming till after the Ru cv line and maybe the RN line MIGHT be released first but I wouldn't hold out too much hope.

[Exocet6951]

I don't know...

 

There are a handful of premium candidates that could work fine from tier6-8, you could probably do a bit of research magic to get a tier4 one, but in order to get a good tier 9 and 10 CV, you would need to take a look at CVs from the mid 50's (Foch and Clemenceau)

Both of which have angled decks, which I remember being a condemning factor for if a high tier CV is too modern for the game or not.

[T0byJug]

Long list... Realy Please List them. My quick look finds 

 

Béarn commissioned 1927

Joffre laid down 1938 never completed

2 EX USN Independence class not commissioned to French navy till 1950s

1 EX Royal navy colossus class commissioned to French navy 1946

2 Fench Clemenceau class French built and commissioned in 1960s

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_carriers_of_France

So we have One built. One never completed and 2 To late for time  span of game. Hardly a LONG LINE.

 

[olmedreca]

Why would you look forward for any future CV lines then WG clearly has no clue what to do with existing ones?

[Horin728]

any real historical info on those? I know the germans "had" Graf zeppelin and Royal Navy had enough for the whole line, but French? I know nothing

[T0byJug]

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[Amon_ITA]

Zero relevance, not interested.

[LastButterfly]

French CV ? What kind of madness is that ? You can do US, JP and UK CV lines for sure. If you dig in piles of paper you can eventually do a Russian line and if you're REALLY digging deep, an Italian line.

But France and Germany will just never have their lines xD

 

any real historical info on those? I know the germans "had" Graf zeppelin and Royal Navy had enough for the whole line, but French? I know nothing

 

French had Béarn, a 1927 small carrier capable of operating at most 25 planes (although some source state 40 in 1940 but I doubt that). If you want my opinion, despite the number of planes, she belongs somwhere  at TV

They laid down Joffre, a 1938 design carrying up to 40 aircrafts but it never went any further.

Among the paperships, a few conversions have been proposed. After the fall of Germany and victory in Europe, the two Duquesne cruisers should have been remodelled into escort carriers for operations in the Pacific so as to help the allied attack on Japan. There was also a 1943 proposal to convert the battleship Jean Bart into a full-fledged carrier. The proposal was American, and French rejected it, but it's interesting because it's the closest we'll have for a decent TVIII french carrier.
And finally if you want to go further, Clemenceau - the first post-war - may be too modern but its orginal design's original design, named PA28, could be used aswell.

 

Other obscure proposals have been made, among which a convertion of the seaplane carrier Commandant Teste, but it's becoming much to obscure to be used.

 

Edit : you can also use foreign carrier that ended up bought, given or lended to the French in a way or another, in which case you'd have access to a Colossus class, an Archer class and two Independence class.

[tajj7]

Realistically only the RN can have a full CV line without masses of paper ships.  I reckon German and Russia CV lines will come but they'll be a big stretch.

 

Only issue with a RN line might be on the size of the ships as they didn't really do supercarriers so getting those high number of planes might be an issue without paper designs. 

[Juanx]

It’s not well known but there are a long line of French carriers so are they something that you would like to see soon

 

 

A long line? Guess 2mm is a long stretch for you?

[LastButterfly]

Realistically only the RN can have a full CV line without masses of paper ships.  I reckon German and Russia CV lines will come but they'll be a big stretch.

 

Only issue with a RN line might be on the size of the ships as they didn't really do supercarriers so getting those high number of planes might be an issue without paper designs. 

 

You reckon a German CV line ?

It's more realistic for French and Italians to have a CV line rather than Germans... Or you intend to have 5 German CV proposals at tier IV and V and one at tier VII. Not exactly a line.

[T0byJug]

Realistically only the RN can have a full CV line without masses of paper ships.  I reckon German and Russia CV lines will come but they'll be a big stretch.

 

Only issue with a RN line might be on the size of the ships as they didn't really do supercarriers so getting those high number of planes might be an issue without paper designs. 

 

main issue was the armoured enclosed hanger deck had less space for aircraft and it was not till mid war that RN adopted USN idea of storing Aircraft on deck this allowed RN CV to have if not the same but a lot larger capacity of aircraft. 

 

with out adopting Deck parking Ark Royal could carry 60 Aircraft.

 

Implacable-class, Comparable to the Essex class could carry 80 aircraft compared to the Essex 90-100

[Gnirf]

Troll post.

Bearn could be a premium but will not sell much.

Graf zeppelin should be premium not an a entirely line full of paperships. Madness

 

Following lines are in my opinion far ahead not in any order:

 

RN Cruisers Heavy (split)

RN DD

RN CV

RN BB

RN BC

KM BC

RU BB

JP Bc/BB Alt

US BB/BC Alt

US CA/CL alt

FR BB

FR DD

IT BB

IT CA/CL

IT DD

Commonwealth : CA/CL and DD

PAN EUR: BB/BC

PAN EUR CA/CL

PAN EUR DD

Pan Eur= Spain, Netherlands, Sweden, Austria-Hungary, Greece, Poland , Yugoslavia among others

Pan South America Trees are even possible at least cruisers/DDs.

Many of these can be reasonably filled with built ships also and all will attract more buyers and players so at least 20 lines are far ahead. 

In other words Forget it!

[AkosJaccik]

We already have one in the game, the Le Xington.

She will also be featured in the Pan-Asian line as Liao Xing Ton.

(I'm so sorry. Although, I'm kind of spot on with the possible process of filling up the PA tree, huh? )

[Synth_FG]

The only other practical CV line is the Royal Navy

Italians, Germans and French could get a few premiums, Commonwealth may get a few RN clones but that's it 

[tajj7]

 

main issue was the armoured enclosed hanger deck had less space for aircraft and it was not till mid war that RN adopted USN idea of storing Aircraft on deck this allowed RN CV to have if not the same but a lot larger capacity of aircraft. 

 

with out adopting Deck parking Ark Royal could carry 60 Aircraft.

 

Implacable-class, Comparable to the Essex class could carry 80 aircraft compared to the Essex 90-100

 

Yeh WG might just have to fudge the numbers a little for hangar capacities, Ark Royal was designed to carry 72, but the larger planes meant this was nearer 50-60 but WG could use the 'designed' number. It could a be a decent tier 7 I reckon. 

 

Implacables would make decent tier 8s I reckon. The planned Malta class could be a tier 9 or 10 as they potentially could hold up to 108. 

 

Illustrious could be a tier 6 as that is fairly comparable to the Independence, especially if you use Indomitable which had a larger hangar capacity. 

 

 

[IamTroublemaker]

I find it so funny and hypocritical when people whine about "paper" ships, while they play them themselves. Even though the only "full" lines are IJN DDs and USN CVs

 

I personally look forward towards paper ships. You know why? Because I actually LIKE the game first of all, and I'd prefer to play with a full new line of ships unknown to me rather than get 'real' ships one by one as premium. Don't get me wrong, I love getting my hands on some naval legends (real naval legends who actually did something in combat that is), but there is something in all those project that makes it interesting, crazy, and possibly really fun to play.

[steviln]

any real historical info on those? I know the germans "had" Graf zeppelin and Royal Navy had enough for the whole line, but French? I know nothing

 

Someone else answered already

[Aotearas]

Not sure if there's enough material to make a full line. Only full CV line I expect to be included later would be the Royal Navy. But frankly with the alternative mouse controls and a bit of CV economy rework already having been the "year of CVs", I'm not keen at all to play CVs. It should be obvious to everyone by now that CVs are WG's unwanted step-child that's only being tolerated because you can use it to sell a couple more premiums ...

 

What I'm looking forward to though would be the french destroyers. Ships like the Le Fantasque or the likely tier X candidate the Mogador make me salivate in anticipation.

[Exocet6951]

I find it so funny and hypocritical when people whine about "paper" ships, while they play them themselves. Even though the only "full" lines are IJN DDs and USN CVs

 

I personally look forward towards paper ships. You know why? Because I actually LIKE the game first of all, and I'd prefer to play with a full new line of ships unknown to me rather than get 'real' ships one by one as premium. Don't get me wrong, I love getting my hands on some naval legends (real naval legends who actually did something in combat that is), but there is something in all those project that makes it interesting, crazy, and possibly really fun to play.

 

Wise words.

That being said, this hypothetical line would have one unfinished indigenous ship  fit for tier4, one indigenous ship fit for tier 5 due to the very small amount of planes on board, maybe an indigenous tier7/8 proposal, and the rest would be US and British ships.

 

Had WG allowed CVs with angled decks, a very real tier9 and tier10 could have been made, so a full line could have been patched together with buffed indigenous designs/buuilt ships and foreign ships under the MN colors, perhaps with French planes even, if you want to give them a bit of extra national individuality.

But as it stands, with at best 4 ships that could realistically be implemented, it's not looking good.

 

 

 

 

Not sure if there's enough material to make a full line. Only full CV line I expect to be included later would be the Royal Navy. But frankly with the alternative mouse controls and a bit of CV economy rework already having been the "year of CVs", I'm not keen at all to play CVs. It should be obvious to everyone by now that CVs are WG's unwanted step-child that's only being tolerated because you can use it to sell a couple more premiums ...

 

What I'm looking forward to though would be the french destroyers. Ships like the Le Fantasque or the likely tier X candidate the Mogador make me salivate in anticipation.

 

 

 

 

 

 Damn that reminds me that I have to get WG on the horn to visit the museum ship in my city.

It's a cute little DD of the T47 class with (originally) 3x2 127mm/54 (like the Midway's secondaries, much better than the USN DDs' 127mm mortars), 4x3 550mm torpedoes, and 3x2 57mm bofors like on the Henrietta.

All that on a neat little package going 38 knots

Overall a fantastic looking tier8/9 ship that could even be pushed to tier10 if some of the stats are lightly exagerated.

 

 

[Aotearas]

Damn that reminds me that I have to get WG on the horn to visit the museum ship in my city.

It's a cute little DD of the T47 class with (originally) 3x2 127mm/54 (like the Midway's secondaries, much better than the USN DDs' 127mm mortars), 4x3 550mm torpedoes, and 3x2 57mm bofors like on the Henrietta.

All that on a neat little package going 38 knots

Overall a fantastic looking tier8/9 ship that could even be pushed to tier10 if some of the stats are lightly exagerated.

 

38 knots?

 

The Wikipedia page said 34 knots and that's why I didn't consider it much since the speed would be anemic for a hightier DD. But if that thing can do 38 knots base (plus speed boost for that bit extra speed) that would indeed work as a potential tier X, with the Mogador likely at tier IX then.

[dasCKD]

The Wikipedia page said 34 knots and that's why I didn't consider it much since the speed would be anemic for a hightier DD. But if that thing can do 38 knots base (plus speed boost for that bit extra speed) that would indeed work as a potential tier X, with the Mogador likely at tier IX then.

 

I doubt they'd leave out the Fantasque with her 45 knot top speed. Imagine that thing with speed boost and the speed flags.

[Exocet6951]

 

38 knots?

 

The Wikipedia page said 34 knots and that's why I didn't consider it much since the speed would be anemic for a hightier DD. But if that thing can do 38 knots base (plus speed boost for that bit extra speed) that would indeed work as a potential tier X, with the Mogador likely at tier IX then.

 

Well it says 34 knots at maximum speed for machinery's safety, but 38 knots is the max speed it can do. If you take into account that ships ingame don't actually consider technical issues, you assume that 38 knots as the max base speed.

Add a magical speed boost on top, you can get something more than reasonable.