[ANGRY] sandfacer Players 1 post 632 battles Report post #1 Posted May 29, 2017 the mm needs sorting tier 5 battleships should not be fighting tier 7 battleships how can you do anything when 2 hits and you are dead sort it out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SLAPP] lameoll Players 1,792 posts 10,834 battles Report post #2 Posted May 29, 2017 clearly.... uhuh... got it... But serriously there is something like a newcommer section here. check it out !!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] Jethro_Grey Players 5,207 posts 25,733 battles Report post #3 Posted May 29, 2017 Straight to the point, no wall of text filled with pointless words to pad the lines and no punctuation...that's how we liked it around here. ^^ In regards to your issues with getting two shotted: don't show your effin broadside! Listen to this advice and all your issues with the MM should vanish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WAFU] MrAceRimmer Players 94 posts 2,169 battles Report post #4 Posted May 29, 2017 (edited) Straight to the point, no wall of text filled with pointless words to pad the lines and no punctuation...that's how we liked it around here. ^^ In regards to your issues with getting two shotted: don't show your effin broadside! Listen to this advice and all your issues with the MM should vanish. This. Angling wont rule out citadels from a well placed overmatching shell or two, but broadsiding as a T5 BB in a T7 match guarantees deletion if you are seen. Also - don't be like me, don't yolo, watch the battle unfold whilst being active and adapt as needed.. Ideally all tiers would be +-1 but they aren't and it's good to learn at tier 5 quickly how to play when you are the underdog as believe you me, when you get to T8 you'll be seeing a lot of those G.K's and Yamato's and one mistake.. you are toast. Edited May 29, 2017 by MrAceRimmer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DC_DK] hgbn_dk Players 3,370 posts 44,373 battles Report post #5 Posted May 29, 2017 I could understand your moaning if this was in the old days where the MM was +3 -3 and you was a Tier 3 BB facing Tier 6 BB's Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EdiJo Players 1,419 posts 11,712 battles Report post #6 Posted May 29, 2017 Evidently being -2 tiered is not welcome by new players, and clearly some are very surprised when "the T4 protection" suddenly ends in T5 They don't see any logic in that, and they are right, because there isn't any. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SLAPP] lameoll Players 1,792 posts 10,834 battles Report post #7 Posted May 29, 2017 I had a game today where a full broadsided hipper showed at 7km to my yorck. In 2 salvos i gave him 12 hits, 12 hits overpens. The potato protection never ends. they just only notice it when they DO get citadeled when showing broadside sometimes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain_Strawberry Players 306 posts 5,559 battles Report post #8 Posted May 29, 2017 Seems fine to me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #9 Posted May 29, 2017 Evidently being -2 tiered is not welcome by new players, and clearly some are very surprised when "the T4 protection" suddenly ends in T5 They don't see any logic in that, and they are right, because there isn't any. So, let's remove the babysitting and make it +-2 for everyone @OP, wait till you're tier 7, you can shoot tier 5's... and be shot by tier 9's As it should be btw, no issues with +-2, it's all a 'l2p' issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tekacko Players 309 posts 6,030 battles Report post #10 Posted May 29, 2017 Are you really crying about this? What are T V cruisers supposed to say? 24/7 fighting Scharnhorsts and Gneisenaus. SO. MUCH. FUN. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skurfa Beta Tester 809 posts Report post #11 Posted May 29, 2017 MM +/-1.... Everything else is fake news.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[IRN] Krikkio82 Players 528 posts 13,887 battles Report post #12 Posted May 29, 2017 T5 cruisers in T7 games have to fear as hell also T7 cruisers. Go play cruisers if you want to feel the pain of T5 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POP] YukiEiriKun [POP] Beta Tester 1,500 posts 5,749 battles Report post #13 Posted May 30, 2017 T5 cruisers are OK against t7. T5 BB's are fine against t7. T5 DD's love to be against t7. Well OK, that's just how I see it. True, there are times when I'd want an easy sealclubbing session but they are usually boring. It is much more stisfying to sink an Fuso or Shinyhorse than Wyoming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LT-NF] sariukx Players 8 posts 13,988 battles Report post #14 Posted May 30, 2017 I think taht MM shoud be 1-+, because when you are like in tier 6 cruiser vs tier 8 BB, you just get deleted as soon as you got its atention no mater the angle and that is very frustrating. Sure you get sometime lucky and manage to aproach unnoticed and torp damn thing but that is exeption to the rule, 90% of time you just get sunked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NED] piet11111 Players 2,225 posts 8,827 battles Report post #15 Posted May 30, 2017 So, let's remove the babysitting and make it +-2 for everyone @OP, wait till you're tier 7, you can shoot tier 5's... and be shot by tier 9's As it should be btw, no issues with +-2, it's all a 'l2p' issue. Hmm should l2p not be l2+2 ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #16 Posted May 30, 2017 T5 cruisers are OK against t7. T5 BB's are fine against t7. T5 DD's love to be against t7. Well OK, that's just how I see it. True, there are times when I'd want an easy sealclubbing session but they are usually boring. It is much more stisfying to sink an Fuso or Shinyhorse than Wyoming. Well OK, that's just how I see it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
44smok Players 4,367 posts 16,858 battles Report post #17 Posted May 30, 2017 Bring back +-2 mm on all tiers and there will be no more whining Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #18 Posted May 30, 2017 Hmm should l2p not be l2+2 ? Nope, since it's only GONE DOWN since CBT so it's just Learn2Play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #19 Posted May 30, 2017 Bring back +-2 mm on all tiers and there will be no more whining Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #20 Posted May 30, 2017 +-2 for everyone, haleluja! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyllon Players 2,588 posts Report post #21 Posted May 30, 2017 MM +/-1.... Everything else is fake news.. Lot of fake news originate from true leaks, as many sailors discovered to their amazement. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[IRN] Krikkio82 Players 528 posts 13,887 battles Report post #22 Posted May 30, 2017 (edited) T5 cruisers are OK against t7. T5 BB's are fine against t7. T5 DD's love to be against t7. Well OK, that's just how I see it. True, there are times when I'd want an easy sealclubbing session but they are usually boring. It is much more stisfying to sink an Fuso or Shinyhorse than Wyoming. Are you serious ??T5 cruisers VS T7 is ok ??? tell 1 ship will have at least minimum suceews in a T7 scenario PLS.... Edited May 30, 2017 by Krikkio82 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] eliastion Players 4,795 posts 12,260 battles Report post #23 Posted May 30, 2017 Are you serious ??T5 cruisers VS T7 is ok ??? tell 1 ship will have at least minimum suceews in a T7 scenario PLS.... Furutaka, she's vulnerable and needs to position carefully, but that applies to t5 scenarios just as much with all the BBs sailing around. Her guns, however, pack a solid punch even when aimed at t7 opponents and her 10km torps are a nice supplementary weapon. Emerald, many people seem to hate her, I don't - and, more importantly, she can smoke up and shoot up t7 enemies just as well (or just as poorly, if you're one of these who for some reason believe her to be a bad ship) as on t5 ones. You asked for one ship, have two. I haven't played other t5 cruisers save for Omaha that I played a long time ago so I won't comment on them. But both of those that I played somewhat recently? No real issue with them meeting t7 ships. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SLAPP] lameoll Players 1,792 posts 10,834 battles Report post #24 Posted May 30, 2017 the only thing that needs fixing in this game atm is the brains of the ppl playing it 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #25 Posted May 30, 2017 Are you serious ??T5 cruisers VS T7 is ok ??? tell 1 ship will have at least minimum suceews in a T7 scenario PLS.... Kirov has the range, speed and boomsticks to work just fine in T7 match. Its so glass it doesn't matter if you're shot by 305mm or 410mm shells anyway. Konigberg again has range and RoF to saturate things. Furutaka 203mm can apply a lot of hurt to any cruiser, short range doesn't make that obvious tho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
