[STARS] RedOnly Players 733 posts Report post #1 Posted May 26, 2017 (edited) I've played 5 Randoms with my Hiryuo and on all of them there was a Saipan. And is a cheat, a clear cheat. Why? Because the cheat or the sly idea behind it, is to to make Saipan a Tier VII ship as Hyru, but with Tier IX (!!) on it. So it can destroy easily Tier VII jap planes. But a CV is not a BB or CA, its guns are planes. Or do I miss something? May be Hiryu has a submarine inside and I don't know how to activate it?... sure! So it's clearly a cheat to satisfy those spoiled rich guys that buy it to win too easily. Do I have a problem with that? NO, lucky you that your spoiled mum and dad drop all that money for you to play. But... But if, instead, you want this game fare for all players with some advantage to Premium, make Saipan VIII tier, so will play against Shokaku that has Tier VII (stock) or Tier VIII planes (upgd). Than the advantage is still there, but you have to play for real! P.S. And I'm not saying that beacuse I just think it, but because was confirmed by C.Support the unfair side of it... Edited May 26, 2017 by RedAnark Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[T-N-T] Sigimundus Weekend Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 6,566 posts 16,011 battles Report post #2 Posted May 26, 2017 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXx_Blogis_xXx Alpha Tester, Players 5,335 posts 35,510 battles Report post #3 Posted May 26, 2017 (edited) yeah sure go play lego better , it will fit you better p.s just looked 2k games 42% wr ? bot????? Edited May 26, 2017 by xXx_Blogis_xXx 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guillotine ∞ Players 401 posts 7,897 battles Report post #4 Posted May 26, 2017 Funny. I rarely have issues vs saipans, fact is most of them are just some "newbies" who bought it and cant manage to stop hiriu's strikes. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] BadGene616 Beta Tester 773 posts 8,197 battles Report post #5 Posted May 26, 2017 What was your excuse for being crap in a t6 CV then? Seriously, 42%??? How?? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BOTS] deadly_if_swallowed Players 1,678 posts 13,867 battles Report post #6 Posted May 26, 2017 (edited) I suck so hard with Saipan, it's not even funny. Yes, I had a hard time going against Saipans with my Hiryu but you will see that Saipan CAN get deplaned over time. With her small squad size and limited hangar capacity she will suffer from any plane she loses. Her greatest advantage is also her greatest challenge: the cruise speed of T9 aircraft. Those planes are so damn fast, they can be anywhere on the map in no time. They can effectively block any approach by slower aircraft. But that speed makes micro-managing quite hard and exhausting imho. There are great CV players out there who can manage this speed exceptionally well but I am not one of them If you have the cash, try her yourself. She is not as easy to play as others make you think. Just stick to your trusty Hiryu, outplay Rangers, and take a more careful approach when facing Saipan. Your hangar reserves allow you to dominate the later game stage. You will be rewarded with Shokaku later. edit: Making Saipan a T8 in her current state will make her the weakest CV ever. Even stock Lexi will crush her. Edited May 26, 2017 by _Kyoshi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TEA] Robber_Baron Players 1,322 posts 7,981 battles Report post #7 Posted May 26, 2017 yeah sure go play lego better , it will fit you better p.s just looked 2k games 42% wr ? bot????? You insult the lego players. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain_Strawberry Players 306 posts 5,559 battles Report post #8 Posted May 26, 2017 You insult the lego players. I saw that clan tag yesterday, can't remember how they played but I do know one of them likes LOTR lego Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[STARS] RedOnly Players 733 posts Report post #9 Posted May 26, 2017 I suck so hard with Saipan, it's not even funny. Yes, I had a hard time going against Saipans with my Hiryu but you will see that Saipan CAN get deplaned over time. With her small squad size and limited hangar capacity she will suffer from any plane she loses. Her greatest advantage is also her greatest challenge: the cruise speed of T9 aircraft. Those planes are so damn fast, they can be anywhere on the map in no time. They can effectively block any approach by slower aircraft. But that speed makes micro-managing quite hard and exhausting imho. There are great CV players out there who can manage this speed exceptionally well but I am not one of them If you have the cash, try her yourself. She is not as easy to play as others make you think. Just stick to your trusty Hiryu, outplay Rangers, and take a more careful approach when facing Saipan. Your hangar reserves allow you to dominate the later game stage. You will be rewarded with Shokaku later. edit: Making Saipan a T8 in her current state will make her the weakest CV ever. Even stock Lexi will crush her. Thanks for the only meaningful answer... To the others: I can see that mostly are those psychopathic players that first look at statistic then write, finally they turn on those little brains.... to go to chat/forum to scream against the newbie and offend them as much as they can. Go in Afghanistan or Iraq, cowards... There are players like me, that do not care of data, but just have fun playing different ships in different tiers, but you can even imagine what is a fair competition dear cheaters! I guess you have never played any sports seriously, apart sitting down and watch'em on tv/net... But I'm sure WG needs you more than the ones like me. No problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KOKOS] MaxxyNL [KOKOS] Beta Tester, Players 3,418 posts 11,878 battles Report post #10 Posted May 26, 2017 yeah sure go play lego better , it will fit you better p.s just looked 2k games 42% wr ? bot????? to go to chat/forum to scream against the newbie and offend them as much as they can. Ooh, did your feelings got hurt? Go in Afghanistan or Iraq, cowards... What is your problem kid? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WAFU] MrAceRimmer Players 94 posts 2,169 battles Report post #11 Posted May 26, 2017 My friend tends to lure the saipan fighters over my North Carolina - Om nom nom nom Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PACOS] Eviscerador Weekend Tester 656 posts 6,004 battles Report post #12 Posted May 26, 2017 (edited) Being bad at the game is OK. Voicing your opinion about a ship being OP when you clearly have NO IDEA of how the game works, is bad. You are being shamed for the later, not the former. Simple. Edited May 26, 2017 by Eviscerador 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KOKOS] MaxxyNL [KOKOS] Beta Tester, Players 3,418 posts 11,878 battles Report post #13 Posted May 26, 2017 Being bad at the game is OK. Voicing your opinion about a ship being OP when you clearly have NO IDEA of how the game works, is bad. You are being shamed for the later, not the former. Simple. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #14 Posted May 26, 2017 Saipan has a poor damage output. Even in Strike form... Sure you can pick every engagement but you need to strafe with your fighters all the time and it's hard to land more than two (maybe even one) torp per bombing run. Hiryu has a far higher potential damage output and you'll kill DDs far easier. Saipan vs Hiryu is actually pretty balanced... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OM-V] _The_Plague_ Beta Tester 40 posts 10,798 battles Report post #15 Posted May 26, 2017 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #16 Posted May 26, 2017 (edited) Edited. Edited May 29, 2017 by Asklepi0s This post has been edited by the moderation team due to trolling 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[T-N-T] Sigimundus Weekend Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 6,566 posts 16,011 battles Report post #17 Posted May 26, 2017 that do not care of data Sooo you do not care about data BUT you know how to correctly balance ships around your feelings? Waaau I know this thread will be fun Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drunken_Jedi Players 849 posts 2,954 battles Report post #18 Posted May 26, 2017 Lol here we go again. I'd hazard a guess and say it's more your ability playing a CV than the Saipan itself. The Saipan is a strong CV, especially in the hands of a capable player. However, just because it has tier IX planes doesn't mean it's unbeatable or a cheat. It pays for that with a much more restricted strike payload, only six torpedoes. To put that into perspective the Hiyru has in total eight torpedoes and ten bombs between it's torpedo and dive bomber squadrons. You also still retain two fighter squadrons to intercept and be annoying with. Fun fact, my record damage game in my Hiyru was against a 3/0/1 Saipan which I found amusing, just under 170k damage against tier VIII's. I hate to say it, but I think you need to "git gud". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Tyke Players 456 posts 10,463 battles Report post #19 Posted May 26, 2017 Do I have a problem with that? NO, lucky you that your spoiled mum and dad drop all that money for you to play. If you don't have a problem with it, why make the thread? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #20 Posted May 26, 2017 If you don't have a problem with it, why make the thread? He first tried his mummy and daddy to buy him a Saipan but they said he wets the bed to often for them to give him any allowance. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valinrista Players 125 posts 14,017 battles Report post #21 Posted May 26, 2017 So it's clearly a cheat to satisfy those spoiled rich guys that buy it to win too easily. Feels like you're mad for being poor, get a job mate. Saipan is strong, sure it's not an even matchup if you're facing one in an Hiryu, but it's more than doable, if you're good enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drunken_Jedi Players 849 posts 2,954 battles Report post #22 Posted May 26, 2017 (edited) Oh dear God, how do you only managed 22k on average? That's like... you must go full retard and just YOLO into the middle of their cap to do so badly. It's not like you're improving your gameplay, your stats are dropping across the board in terms of average damage, XP and WR. Just wow... and you have a Shokaku... GL going against T10 AA with your skills. I suggest you SERIOUSLY look at your approach to the game and how you play. You're obviously doing it very... VERY wrong. Watch Notser and Flamu etc, watch how they play and learn from it. Otherwise you can join the ranks of the great tier 10 potatoes in a few months. Edited May 26, 2017 by Drunken_Jedi 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kamikazesushi ∞ Players 299 posts 19,093 battles Report post #23 Posted May 26, 2017 Seriously people, stop insulting only based on stats. Its a game. If someone is not good at it it does not mean you should insult him or make fun of him. I could understand this if you were 8 years old kids in kindergarten.... As a matter of fact I would say that Saipan is the most OP ship tier per tier. If you have good skill there is nothing the opponent can do. You have faster planes and when your fighters get locked you can just strafe away without penalty.... Ofc most Saipans are noobs and a good cv can outplay them but thats not the point. Luring enemy fighters over a friendly NC and other advice will work only versus bad players.... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #24 Posted May 26, 2017 Seriously people, stop insulting only based on stats. Its a game. If someone is not good at it it does not mean you should insult him or make fun of him. I could understand this if you were 8 years old kids in kindergarten.... Being bad at the game is OK. Voicing your opinion about a ship being OP when you clearly have NO IDEA of how the game works, is bad. You are being shamed for the later, not the former. Simple. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THROW] Takru Supertester, Players, Sailing Hamster, Privateer 3,851 posts 23,972 battles Report post #25 Posted May 26, 2017 There are players like me, that do not care of data, but just have fun playing different ships in different tiers, but you can even imagine what is a fair competition dear cheaters! I guess you have never played any sports seriously, apart sitting down and watch'em on tv/net... Point being you're not good at CVs, yet complain about other CV players (!) being better than you, going so far as to call them cheaters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites