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If you make a mistake you can't really do sht because a BB will one shot you to the oblivion because there's a 200% chance of getting at least one citadel.

WG lower the dmg or you will be drown in your own vomit because NO OTHER type of ships are getting punished this much for one single mistake.

Have fun having 28 BBs, 15 DDs and maybe 1 random CL in a battle in the future.

 

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Have fun having 28 BBs, 15 DDs and maybe 1 random CL in a battle in the future.

That is not the future, that is the now. Welcome to high tiers, enjoy!

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Ye it is pretty rough at the moment. Even in my Hood i've now had 7 battles in a row where its all been Tier 9 BBs and CLs. MM is sucking balls today that is for sure. 

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If you make a mistake you can't really do sht because a BB will one shot you to the oblivion because there's a 200% chance of getting at least one citadel.
WG lower the dmg or you will be drown in your own vomit because NO OTHER type of ships are getting punished this much for one single mistake.
Have fun having 28 BBs, 15 DDs and maybe 1 random CL in a battle in the future.

You talking about RN CL?  Because thats the the only line were i allmost always takes masive damage If im get spoted and hit and this on th IF part.

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You talking about RN CL?  Because thats the the only line were i allmost always takes masive damage If im get spoted and hit and this on th IF part.

 

I'll be honest having started playing the Warspite and Hood i've been devastatingly striking cruisers left right and centre. Usual casualties are the Nurnberg and Schors. Myabe i'm leaving the RN ships alone because i'm biast :trollface:

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I'll be honest having started playing the Warspite and Hood i've been devastatingly striking cruisers left right and centre. Usual casualties are the Nurnberg and Schors. Myabe i'm leaving the RN ships alone because i'm biast :trollface:

Well i disliked shors at 1St but once I stayed at max range it worked out can't coment on Nurenberg since I played her with old aft. random deletion happens from time to time but really hard only on RN when outside smoke. Basically unless RN I find most CL not more or less squishi vs BB AP than CAs in the same range. Got RN US IJN to 10 RU to 8 and Germ to 7 (8 with Prinz Eugen) so that's the perspective I'm looking from.  High number of BBs and the disability to angle vs multiple BBs are a isue the survivability 1:1 is okish vs your counter. Now the same can't be said to BB survivability vs their conters but this is another isue entirely :teethhappy:

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I saw a enemy Shchors pew pew'ing at me at 15km earlier.

I took offense to that.

Shot once, he tried to move out of the way, triple citpen.

 

Welcome to World of Memeships.

Your first mistake was thinking all classes were born equal.

 

EDIT: Alas, upon reading this, RNGesus took it upon himself to punish me with a classic Pensacola triple deletion salvo from a Missouri. RNGesus giveth and taketh away.

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I saw a enemy Shchors pew pew'ing at me at 15km earlier.

I took offense to that.

Shot once, he tried to move out of the way, triple citpen.

 

Welcome to World of Memeships.

Your first mistake was thinking all classes we born equal.

 

EDIT: Alas, upon reading this, RNGesus took it upon himself to punish me with a classic Pensacola triple deletion salvo from a Missouri. RNGesus giveth and taketh away.

 

Amen

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The cruisers need that repair module. Just like the BBs.

 

Repair for all the ship's.

 

I don't think that would work. It's fine for the RN because that is there thing. The rest can handle themselves but like anything in WoWs if you do something silliy someone is going to capitalise on your mistake. For BBs that is DDs taking you out with torps, for Cruisers that is BBs taking you out with big f****** shells, for DDs that is getting too close to a cruiser or BB and for Carriers that is actually all 3. Rock, paper, scissors, carriers. :trollface:

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I think people overreact when they say cruisers don't have a chance in the current BB heavy meta. Yes you will be punished in doing a wrong move, but I think this makes you more aware about your own tactics and positioning  when playing cruisers. Some you need to play kitting at max range spamming He. Others you need to hide behind a island and loop shells over. Others use smoke to do their thing.

 

My US and UK cruisers are my favourites.

 

Some weeks I don't play anything else as cruisers, some weeks only DD's and some BB's

 

People should grow a pair and just accept the challenge.

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there's a 200% chance of getting at least one citadel

 

If that's the percentage for citadel, maybe the one for overpen is over nine thousand :trollface:? (at least in World of Sealclubbing)

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Yes you will be punished in doing a wrong move, but I think this makes you more aware about your own tactics and positioning  when playing cruisers.

Problem is that BBs are not forced to think about positioning or tactics due to open maps and extreme range (on high tiers).

 

Part of what's wrong with BBs are that they can be relatively effective sitting in spawn with one hand down their pants and the other moving the mouse around and left-clicking. This is the reason why we have matches were half the team consists of BBs, because they're so comfortable and forgiving to play. And the more BBs you play against the more potential threats you need to angle against.

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Got triple citadelled in my Fiji by the front turret of a Graf Spee whilst kiting - not broadside - killed him at almost the same time as had been shooting at him for some time - he did confess to it being the luckiest shot he had done for a while but we both complimented each other as it had been a great fight - he knew what he was doing and I had been against 2 BBs as well. Sometimes it just happens and is just part of playing CLs.

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Problem is that BBs are not forced to think about positioning or tactics due to open maps and extreme range (on high tiers).

 

Part of what's wrong with BBs are that they can be relatively effective sitting in spawn with one hand down their pants and the other moving the mouse around and left-clicking. This is the reason why we have matches were half the team consists of BBs, because they're so comfortable and forgiving to play. And the more BBs you play against the more potential threats you need to angle against.

I agree but refuse to let the BB campers dictate the premise for the game. 

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I must be playing this game wrong. If my BB has not engaged with secondaries, I consider it a bad game. Can't hit for crap with BB guns at range so I brawl. Pays off more often than not

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I think people overreact when they say cruisers don't have a chance in the current BB heavy meta. Yes you will be punished in doing a wrong move, but I think this makes you more aware about your own tactics and positioning  when playing cruisers. 

People should grow a pair and just accept the challenge.

 

The issue isn't when you make a mistake.

If you potato broadside or time your turn poorly and get meme'd into oblivion,sure.

 

The problem is that you can get citpenned despite playing properly just because of a few stray shells are overmatching their way into your citadel from obscene angles.

There's nothing to accept, no way to git gud about it, you just have to accept that in the current meta, if the enemy is decent at aiming, every salvo fired at you has a change of wrecking you hard for RNG reasons. 

Which would be tolerable, if it wasn't for the fact that in your average tier8+ battle, BBs outnumber CA/CLs.

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That's right with the Tier 8+ most of the time, however have had a couple of cruisers only matches in the last month..They are extremely rare but fun... low to mid Tier is okay.

 

It just separate the men from the mice to play against odds

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The problem is that you can get citpenned despite playing properly just because of a few stray shells are overmatching their way into your citadel from obscene angles

 

this is basicly the way i get citadeled in cruisers 99 % of the time  very annoying.

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I must be playing this game wrong. If my BB has not engaged with secondaries, I consider it a bad game. Can't hit for crap with BB guns at range so I brawl. Pays off more often than not

 

Sad to say I wish your playing style was not the minority for BB players. And here I am reading that some battleships are getting what can only be described as a buff to their citadels. Yippee for the bbs...

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Citadel must be big, otherwise BBs would not stand a chance against CLs. Fast shooting, low concealment, shoot when you want and burn them, these are all strong points against BBs could not deal without chance to citadel cruiser easy. And lets be honest, you will be one shot killed only if you show full broadside at close range. We all do it sometimes, and when we do it, we deserve to be destroyed.

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And lets be honest, you will be one shot killed only if you show full broadside at close range. We all do it sometimes, and when we do it, we deserve to be destroyed.

Lolpens are quite common though (overmatch or plunging fire) and can often take up to half of your health. With matches where you might have to dodge up to 5 BBs every time you fire you end up either not  being able to do any damage or having to scramble to not get destroyed by people sitting in spawn and going for the easy target.

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That is not the future, that is the now. Welcome to high tiers, enjoy!

 

Yep. At high tier you should play like a little scared girl until the big most dangerous ships are dead or borderhumping, when you see a nice opening you push and use your high DPM. :)

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Citadel must be big, otherwise BBs would not stand a chance against CLs. Fast shooting, low concealment, shoot when you want and burn them, these are all strong points against BBs could not deal without chance to citadel cruiser easy. And lets be honest, you will be one shot killed only if you show full broadside at close range. We all do it sometimes, and when we do it, we deserve to be destroyed.

 

What about CA's? When i play CA's i get lol penned almost every game. Thankfully at high tier you have heals, so you can hide for a while before it happens all over again. But still. Citadel DMG is way to high on high tiers. If you screw up and show full broadside, sure. But when you do everything correctly and the enemy BB screws up YOU still get punished by lolpens. 

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Sad to say I wish your playing style was not the minority for BB players. And here I am reading that some battleships are getting what can only be described as a buff to their citadels. Yippee for the bbs...

 

Just played a game where I was actively chasing down a DD in my hood, was freaking funny as all hell! poor bugger turned tail and ran, i chased till he got nailed by some cruisers.

 

I don't think he knew how to react to a BB ploughing through his torps bow on and giving chase.

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