[SCRUB] T0byJug Quality Poster 5,358 posts 25,539 battles Report post #1 Posted May 18, 2017 (edited) 12000 HP 36kn Speed 6.84km surface detection 3.8sec Rudder shift and 540M Turn radias 8km 61kn torps 1.3km detection 10.18km range guns reload 5 secs (fire chance 8%) Well if she ships with these stats she looks very nice. Full stats https://gamemodels3d.com You have to pay a couple of Euro to get access to future Patch stats Edited May 18, 2017 by T0byJug 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BRITS] fallenkezef [BRITS] Players 1,788 posts 1,955 battles Report post #2 Posted May 18, 2017 My playstyle does rather suit DDs and CLs so quite looking forward to this. I enjoy Cambeltown but it's a tad low tier 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXx_Blogis_xXx Alpha Tester, Players 5,335 posts 35,510 battles Report post #3 Posted May 18, 2017 not that bad , to bad i would like only gunboats Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tajj7 Beta Tester 1,210 posts 1,486 battles Report post #4 Posted May 18, 2017 So you'd be able to get a 5.9km detection then with camo and CE? With 8km torps, and 8 of them. Looking like a decent little torp boat then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BRITS] fallenkezef [BRITS] Players 1,788 posts 1,955 battles Report post #5 Posted May 18, 2017 not that bad , to bad i would like only gunboats Wait for the Tribal class they will be your thing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,982 battles Report post #6 Posted May 18, 2017 Yup, she looks quite promising 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] T0byJug Quality Poster 5,358 posts 25,539 battles Report post #7 Posted May 18, 2017 So you'd be able to get a 5.9km detection then with camo and CE? With 8km torps, and 8 of them. Looking like a decent little torp boat then. Guns are not great but they are also not bad, Shell velocity is ok ROF good. Range a little short but with this new firing detection meta thats not a bad thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tajj7 Beta Tester 1,210 posts 1,486 battles Report post #8 Posted May 18, 2017 (edited) Shell velocity is a little better than the US DD guns, so not quite as loopy. I wonder if this will be a template for other RN DDs or whether they will be different in 'flavour', Gallant seems quite general purpose leaning towards torpedo boat. Also looks like it has a camo on, so I'm wondering whether that concealment is including that? If so then then you'll only be able to get down to 6.1km concealment. Edited May 18, 2017 by tajj7 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[P0RT] Admiral_H_Nelson Players 3,938 posts 23,206 battles Report post #9 Posted May 18, 2017 Yup, she looks quite promising Very nice, but they need to make the music louder. I could barely hear it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,982 battles Report post #10 Posted May 18, 2017 Also looks like it has a camo on, so I'm wondering whether that concealment is including that? If so then then you'll only be able to get down to 6.1km concealment. Concealment is 6.84km without camo. Camo is not included 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tajj7 Beta Tester 1,210 posts 1,486 battles Report post #11 Posted May 18, 2017 Concealment is 6.84km without camo. Camo is not included Cool, second best concealment of any tier 6 DD then. Whilst not having anemic guns like the IJN DDs with still a decent amount of torps. Not super fast but decently agile, not quite as agile as Faragut. Not rail guns but not quite the loopy shells of the US DDs. Solid all rounder 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] T0byJug Quality Poster 5,358 posts 25,539 battles Report post #12 Posted May 18, 2017 Cool, second best concealment of any tier 6 DD then. Whilst not having anemic guns like the IJN DDs with still a decent amount of torps. Not super fast but decently agile, not quite as agile as Faragut. Not rail guns but not quite the loopy shells of the US DDs. Solid all rounder while i don't agree with you that the guns on tier6+ IJN DDs are Anemic. I think they are pretty Good since the ROF ant turret traverse Buffs they got. However if HMS Gallant is setting the flavour of RN DDs as Like you said Good All rounders i will be more than happy Wait for the Tribal class they will be your thing As much as i also like the Tribal,, I hope more for the L and M class. We can have some interesting choices here. they came with 8 torps. But quite a varied main gun armament. Either 6x4.7 inch guns + 2x4inch DP guns OR 8x4inch DP guns 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HORN] Wolfenbane Players 374 posts Report post #13 Posted May 18, 2017 As much as i'm glad the Hood is going to be in the game,my cash will be on the Gallant.Delighted to see another Brit DD in the game. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tajj7 Beta Tester 1,210 posts 1,486 battles Report post #14 Posted May 18, 2017 while i don't agree with you that the guns on tier6+ IJN DDs are Anemic. I think they are pretty Good since the ROF ant turret traverse Buffs they got. Long time since I played them, more meant that the Gallant's guns are probably closer to US DD guns than IJN DD guns and it should be ok in a gun fight with other DDs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] T0byJug Quality Poster 5,358 posts 25,539 battles Report post #15 Posted May 18, 2017 Long time since I played them, more meant that the Gallant's guns are probably closer to US DD guns than IJN DD guns and it should be ok in a gun fight with other DDs. Biggest problem with IJN DD players at the moment is insistence on not using guns.. A week ago a Yügamo on full health let me gun him down in a Fletcher. Unfair fight i here you shout. Well i was on just over 2k HP. 1 good salvo from the Yügamo guns could have killed me. But no he tried to run keeping guns silent. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,982 battles Report post #16 Posted May 18, 2017 As much as i also like the Tribal,, I hope more for the L and M class. We can have some interesting choices here. they came with 8 torps. But quite a varied main gun armament. Either 6x4.7 inch guns + 2x4inch DP guns OR 8x4inch DP guns Well with L/M class you have choice between 3x2 4.7inch guns or 4x2 4inch guns. Both version were DP. There is no version with both 3x2 4.7inch and 1x2 4inch guns. Only Tribal class have this combination after trading one of their 4.7inch twin mounts (X mount) for 4inch twin mount. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Tyrendian89 [TTTX] Players 4,608 posts 8,139 battles Report post #17 Posted May 18, 2017 Cool, second best concealment of any tier 6 DD then. Whilst not having anemic guns like the IJN DDs with still a decent amount of torps. Not super fast but decently agile, not quite as agile as Faragut. Not rail guns but not quite the loopy shells of the US DDs. Solid all rounder pretty much exactly my thoughts when I saw the stats - here's hoping WG don't screw around with what looks like a solid ship to make it "unique", like they did with Hood... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tajj7 Beta Tester 1,210 posts 1,486 battles Report post #18 Posted May 18, 2017 Biggest problem with IJN DD players at the moment is insistence on not using guns.. A week ago a Yügamo on full health let me gun him down in a Fletcher. Unfair fight i here you shout. Well i was on just over 2k HP. 1 good salvo from the Yügamo guns could have killed me. But no he tried to run keeping guns silent. Yah I notice that a lot. Crap guns is still better than no guns. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CPA] Procrastes Beta Tester 4,083 posts 4,481 battles Report post #19 Posted May 18, 2017 What I'm wondering is, will the Gallant have the same manoeuvrability characteristics as the RN cruisers? With better than average acceleration and deceleration, and the ability to accelerate while turning? If so, this might be a very nice little ship indeed! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] T0byJug Quality Poster 5,358 posts 25,539 battles Report post #20 Posted May 18, 2017 Well with L/M class you have choice between 3x2 4.7inch guns or 4x2 4inch guns. Both version were DP. There is no version with both 3x2 4.7inch and 1x2 4inch guns. Only Tribal class have this combination after trading one of their 4.7inch twin mounts (X mount) for 4inch twin mount. The 4.7s not really.. MAX elevation we 50’ severely limiting AA capacity. Tribals had 40’ angle on there 4.7s so not much different. Compare that to the IJN DP turrets with 80’ or USN 85’. The RN 4inch Turrets had 80’ angle of fire It all depends if WG will class a 50’ angle as an AA gun Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tajj7 Beta Tester 1,210 posts 1,486 battles Report post #21 Posted May 18, 2017 What I'm wondering is, will the Gallant have the same manoeuvrability characteristics as the RN cruisers? With better than average acceleration and deceleration, and the ability to accelerate while turning? If so, this might be a very nice little ship indeed! That would be interesting. I like the idea of RN chips having these bonus 'soft stats' that reflects their better more experienced crew. Sadly this is making me more tempted on the Hood bundles to get the captain with 12 skills seeing as it looks like we might not be far away from RN DDs and BBs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CPA] Procrastes Beta Tester 4,083 posts 4,481 battles Report post #22 Posted May 18, 2017 That would be interesting. I like the idea of RN chips having these bonus 'soft stats' that reflects their better more experienced crew. Sadly this is making me more tempted on the Hood bundles to get the captain with 12 skills seeing as it looks like we might not be far away from RN DDs and BBs. So, I guess I am not the only one tempted to put that 12-pointer into a destroyer instead? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,982 battles Report post #23 Posted May 18, 2017 The 4.7s not really.. MAX elevation we 50’ severely limiting AA capacity. Tribals had 40’ angle on there 4.7s so not much different. Compare that to the IJN DP turrets with 80’ or USN 85’. The RN 4inch Turrets had 80’ angle of fire It all depends if WG will class a 50’ angle as an AA gun Well I didn't said that they were good just that they were DP by designation Shiratsuyu & Kagero use mounts that elevated to 55 degree and while they were also designated as DP in the game they don't have AA capabilities. So probably not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] T0byJug Quality Poster 5,358 posts 25,539 battles Report post #24 Posted May 18, 2017 So, I guess I am not the only one tempted to put that 12-pointer into a destroyer instead? Already have a spare 11 point commander and a 8 point on the Diana. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] ApesTogetherStronK [SCRUB] Players 1,074 posts Report post #25 Posted May 18, 2017 She seems very average/all round to me, not specializing in anything but not being poor at anything either. I feel she'll play like a Gaede but with normal DD guns and better concealment. Won't drop any money though, WG doesn't deserve it and needs to make big changes before I'd even consider doing it again. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites