HMS Hood available on the 19th May

[tajj7]

What s the sigma for the Hwood compared to Warspite?

 

1.8 to 2.0 I think but some people are saying their accuracy is not that different due to other stats, though from watching previews the dispersion looks horrible. 

[Tuccy]

Can we get info on why Hood is blue with red turrets?

 

Literally no evidence anywhere of this paint scheme. 

 

Actually poked around and here is what I got re. Hood camos:

 

Hood default camo

Disruptive camouflage she was supposed to receive - never got there because of her fate. However this scheme was applied to other ships (incl. other battlecruisers) so there was plenty of material to base this on. This camo will be included in all Hood bundles.

 

 

Hood historical camo

This is the camo present on screenshots of Hood / in Contributor previews. This is the camouflage she sported during her last journey, however it is rather monotonous. Past experience shows that such camos generally are not that popular, even if historically accurate (Tirpitz "one faced" camouflage, Tashkent perma camouflage...). For now, this camo will be added as an extra to the top bundle.

 

Hood skins from the campaign

Mix between both, keeping the white and red turrets in order to give a bit more flair to the historical camouflage. These camos are available in the campaign.

 

 

 

 

The real kicker in this is that you don't even get one of those commemorative flags they love to chuck in the most expensive bundles. Seriously WG... the only way I could be tempted to get the top bundle is for the gold value towards my T10 premium camo's when I eventually unlock them. I'm still very much opposed to the staggered release though, it baffles the mind because yeah they might sell a few thousand of these but how many sales of the base ship will they lose in return? You keep shitting on consumer trust like this and eventually there will be no one left to buy your pixel ships. 

 

There is the Hood flag, it will be in the top 2 packages.

[Syned]

Still not addressing the elephant in the room about this staggered release.

 

I have never seen the EU community praise that. The Graff Spee only worked because people like me who couldnt actually play the whole campaign due to real life commitments paid for the ship early. If the Hood was the reward then I would understand but you baited us with "use the hood for extra reward" before denying it to many players who cant or wont fork out so much cash.

 

Very dissappointed but not exactly surprised at this point.

[pUREsTORM]

 

Actually poked around and here is what I got re. Hood camos:

 

Hood default camo

Disruptive camouflage she was supposed to receive - never got there because of her fate. However this scheme was applied to other ships (incl. other battlecruisers) so there was plenty of material to base this on. This camo will be included in all Hood bundles.

 

 

Hood historical camo

This is the camo present on screenshots of Hood / in Contributor previews. This is the camouflage she sported during her last journey, however it is rather monotonous. Past experience shows that such camos generally are not that popular, even if historically accurate (Tirpitz "one faced" camouflage, Tashkent perma camouflage...). For now, this camo will be added as an extra to the top bundle.

 

 Thanks for confirming my suspicions regarding that 'Intact' camo I saw in the top bundle.

[VC381]

Do we know if the historical grey camouflage will be available for purchase separately at a later date, or are they basically saying "the only way you're getting an actual historical looking ship is by paying for the top bundle"?

[Hedgehog1963]

 

 

 

 

 

 

There is the Hood flag, it will be in the top 2 packages.

 

 

Hmm...  I likey, and I have bought the top packages for other ships in the past because I like the flag on offer, but I'm so put off by the marketing strategy associated with Hood that I'm not going to play.  I'll fly the Jutland flag instead.

[22cm]

 

1.8 to 2.0 I think but some people are saying their accuracy is not that different due to other stats, though from watching previews the dispersion looks horrible. 

 

Hmmm... worse guns than Warspit on a better platform  but with higher MM... kinda tricky...

[Juggernauthz]

  [...]however it is rather monotonous. Past experience shows that such camos generally are not that popular, even if historically accurate.

 

French ships would like to have a word with you...

[tajj7]

So that grey camo, the historical one is only available in the top bundle? 

[Thunderbird_6]

Was all set to buy the Hood, looking forward to it, but seeing the obvious gouging and staggered release I wouldn't buy it now if I won the lottery.

 

Totally disgusted, WG you can shove it where the sun don't shine.

[WestyII]

 

Actually poked around and here is what I got re. Hood camos:

 

Hood default camo

Disruptive camouflage she was supposed to receive - never got there because of her fate. However this scheme was applied to other ships (incl. other battlecruisers) so there was plenty of material to base this on. This camo will be included in all Hood bundles.

 

 

Hood historical camo

This is the camo present on screenshots of Hood / in Contributor previews. This is the camouflage she sported during her last journey, however it is rather monotonous. Past experience shows that such camos generally are not that popular, even if historically accurate (Tirpitz "one faced" camouflage, Tashkent perma camouflage...). For now, this camo will be added as an extra to the top bundle.

 

 

 

Are you kidding?

 

The top bundle is the only one to receive Hoods ACTUAL HISTORICAL CAMOUFLAGE? 

 

That is a joke. Thank you for taking the time to respond, but that is atrocious. How much is the top package? 100eu? 

[it3llig3nc3]

Getting more information about the missions is revealing a lot about WG's wicked way of thinking.

 

1. Interesting to note the MISSION-1 ultimate completion criteria that is to win 7 battles besides doing 120,000 damage. Considering the normal winrate around 50% this means 14 battles with 15 minute averages that is 3.5hours alone. 

Surprisingly the subsequent Missions have only DEAL XXX DAMAGE criteria climbing from 120,000 to 350,000.

Therefore MISSION1 completion criteria looks like to be a "floodgate" that is much tougher to reach than the rest. I wonder why?

 

2. Hood missions - that are indeed giving a lot of "extra" pins vs. others. 

Hood tasks in Mission 2,4,5 are frag missions (CA, BB, DD respectively) that will certainly have difficulties - while doable they are carefully crafted progress barriers. 

 

3. It is remarkable how significant is the PIN number that is achievable with XP earning (and if we can believe in the text it is not baseXP but global XP) - nice motivation to buy premium time, premium camos and the new booster flags. eh?

 

 

[Unintentional_submarine]

I have to say that the Hood flag is really nice. Would absolutely use it if I had it. But I'm not going to have it. As I see it right now, it is the only positive thing.

 

I find it somewhat bemusing that, was it on the annoucement page (?), that the argument for this staggered release was the backlash at the Graf Spee BS scenario. People didn't like that, so now

 

YOU WILL WEAR IT UNTIL YOU LOVE IT!

[WestyII]

Does the campaign text still incorrectly list the made-up camouflage as the historical camouflage worn by Hood when she fought Bismarck? 

 

 

[Jethro_Grey]

I just wish we had an idea on price.

 

My guess is, somewhere in the price range of the Prinz Eugen bundles, possibly even more expensive considering it's one of the most anticipate ships in the game.

IIrc, the top bundle for PE was ~130€ and if the Mighty inflated Hood bundle is in the same region, i pass and take a cheaper one.

[pgoepner]

Hey everyone i want to share my personal opinion on that topic, as i am really inticipating the Hood, but on the other hand not the typical contributor in the world of warships community and i think this is my first post here. Also i am a really casual player who doesn't play that often as i often only about 500 games under my belt:

 

I have to admit, that i actually really like the renown-based disruptive camo as her standard premium camo. But i really hope that wargaming enables access to her historical camo to everyone - at least ingame via
dubloons. The fact is, that a huge part of the players who buy premium regularily - as myself - do itbecause of the historical significance of that particular ship. To force players into a decision "take it or leave it" with offering the historical camo only via a 70 € upward bundle is certainly far from ideal. Additionally i agree with the previous statements form the player base, that the staggered release should be reconsidered by wargaming. I am highly unemotional on that subject and i'll just buy a bundle when i feel like price/desire-to-sail will match. But i can understand anyone who isn't.

 

Wargmaing should think about who they want to reach with these highly time consuming events like "Hunt for the Bismarck".

 

I am your average money spending premium buyer who doesn't play the game on a regular daily basis as i am working way to much to do this. I may buy these bundles because i have money to spend and just like to jump in ship i like and have some fun in it. But this can't be and i hope this isn't wargaming target audiance for our game. We can't fill the servers every day and keep this game profitable and therefore alive. Maybe i am wrong here but i think a game like World of Warships needs a good player base. Consequently wargaming needs to give the player base the opportunity to participate in and enjoy the events without having to spend greater sums. Besides that i think there will always be enough guys that will buy these premium ships, as it was already pointed out, that there are a lot of more mature players in 30+ compartment like myself.

 

Just my personal opinion and feeling regarding the topic raised.

 

I wish everyone a nice week and maybe we face of at the weekend

 

cheers

[pUREsTORM]

 

My guess is, somewhere in the price range of the Prinz Eugen bundles, possibly even more expensive considering it's one of the most anticipate ships in the game.

IIrc, the top bundle for PE was ~130€ and if the Mighty inflated Hood bundle is in the same region, i pass and take a cheaper one.

 

I think it'll be cheaper than the top level Prinz bundle. Remember that Prinz Eugen is a tier 8 cruiser, and is more expensive than Scharnhorst.

Plus that top level Prinz bundle had 18k doubloons, 20m credits and 30 days premium IIRC. Most of the price inflation in the bundles seems to be tied to the doubloons included.

 

Some of the individual prices of the ships and items in those bundles.

 

Prinz Eugen ($40.10)

18500 doubloons (€63.22)

30 days premium (€9.95)

 

Hood (assuming same price as Scharnhorst $35.15)

9350 doubloons (€33.66)

 

Of course this is the first time I've seen captains being sold in ship bundles, so I don't know how that could affect the price tag.

[TheCinC]

So basically the skins and camos are non-historical, because they 'look better'?
I think that goes for Bismarck too then, because obviously she is not in the state she was when she left Gdynia, or when she went down.

I hope they at least edited the description, but there is nothing about it in the article.

I find this a weird turn of events for a campaign ostensibly aimed at history nerds like me.

 

As for the packages, I am not about to spend € 100,- or more for the top package, just to get the one (1) historical permacamo.

I might have considered it, if they had offered  all bundles from the start, and the whole thing didn't reek of: we gotta fill our coffers somehow.

Basically, they are trying to force us to shell out for a grossly inflated package, despite us having clamoured for ships being available without bundles from CBT onwards.

 

I have to hand it to WG though.

 

-Clear communication? Check. We know what we are getting even before the campaign is released and the first bundle hits ye olde premium shoppe. There has never been any word about HMS Hood being unlockable, despite the hopes of a small number of people. So in most aspects, we should feel properly informed.

-Equal offers? Check. We get the same deal the other servers get, but since they already have this kind of staggered release, we get it too.

-Ships without bundles? Check. We just have to wait until June 9th, when the campaign incidentally is over.

 

So either there is someone at WG who is very confused right now, because on paper, they gave us exactly what we wanted, or someone is laughing, possibly all the way to the bank.

 

I think I'll just focus on completing stage five.

Historically correct or not, the damaged look for HMS Hood, seems pretty badass to me.

Otherwise, her default state is probably a dull grey, which would work for me as well.

If the collection is doable, I'll complete that too.

 

But the permacamos for Bismarck, I don't care for.

I had hoped they had stuck to the camouflage she had in the Baltic, until Rheinübung started.

That look is the one that I've seen so many times in artwork of this ship and it is very striking indeed.

For that, I'd probably be willing to grind/pay quite a lot.

Instead, we get a mash up of two distinct states, including a weird looking iron cross to replace a non-existent swastika, as well as yellow paint in places that either never had it, or probably quickly lost it, and looking way too neat in the fist one.

Do they really think those sailors used rulers and whatnot to apply all the paint so neatly?
No, if it happened at all, it was a slapdash rush job, which according to what I've read, didn't even stick to the secondary turrets.

I am not going to grind for something that is both ahistorical and ugly to me (your mileage may vary).

It will save me a bit of grinding at least.

 

I have to say, this is just a let down.

The campaign seemed pretty fun on the PTS, not too grindy, maybe just a little, but just about right.

So of course, that was the watered down version for testing and the true campaign will be a total grindfest, which is a big turn off for me.

I just managed to finish the campaign for the Shinonome, which at times seemed insane, with at least a dozen tasks that seemed completely unachievable, without any additional reward to make them worthwhile, not even an achievement or something.

This one will be at least as bad, with only three weeks to do it.

Add in the staggered release and seriously, this whole event just makes me very unhappy.

I simply can't understand that someone considered this the best thing to do.

Why treat your customers this way?
I've said this several times before: make us happy, and we will throw money at you.

I hate grinding, so I usually spend money to ease the grind.

Now, I am nurturing what I have left of my doubloons.

Every new premium will be given a thorough evaluation, and if I really, really need to have it, I'll buy it stand-alone.

The silly thing is, this whole thing has made me feel a bit better about grinding the trees the hard way.

It makes me feel more proud, of having actually made the progress all by myself.

So this will probably be permanent, costing them even more money.

Premium time, same thing, I still have a lot, but doubt I'll spend money on acquiring more.

I just don't want to encourage this sort of thing.

And just when I thought they might finally turn this thing around.

I do hope they will see all this negative feedback and decide to release all bundles at once, even if they don't make the ship available by itself.

That might be enough of a gesture.

[aquiles7389]

Hood historical camo

 

This is the camo present on screenshots of Hood / in Contributor previews. This is the camouflage she sported during her last journey, however it is rather monotonous. Past experience shows that such camos generally are not that popular, even if historically accurate (Tirpitz "one faced" camouflage, Tashkent perma camouflage...). For now, this camo will be added as an extra to the top bundle.

 

So just because people said that trashcan perma cammo was ugly (but then, when proved historical, all the people stopped complaining) you stopped doing that...

Do you know what's uglier and waaaaay worse? YOUR STAGGERED BUNDLES AND THE FACT YOU ONLY LISTEN THE PLAYERBASE FOR USELESS STUFF

[puxflacet]

This is the camouflage she sported during her last journey, however it is rather monotonous. Past experience shows that such camos generally are not that popular, even if historically accurate (Tirpitz "one faced" camouflage, Tashkent perma camouflage...).

 

people just have a bad taste and wg shouldn't listen to them and shouldn't be afraid to carry through things

 

Hood skins from the campaign

Mix between both, keeping the white and red turrets in order to give a bit more flair to the historical camouflage. These camos are available in the campaign.

 

 

do you realize that you are literally lying to the people? hood never had this camouflage so how can you present it as historical?

hood was sunk in dark grey, not this ugly cooked up trash

 

[aquiles7389]

do you realize that you are literally lying to the people? hood never had this camouflage so how can you present it as historical?

 

Do you think they care?

[puxflacet]

 

Do you think they care?

 

they care and should care...because whole concept of the "hunt for the bismarck" campaign is hunt for historical camos for hood and bismarck. and they find out that hood was sunk in dark grey so they changed the showy blue to dark grey, because they realized that they were wrong. ..but what to do now when wg dissociate themselves from the dark grey camo which people allegedly dont like?

 

so they came up with compromise: dark grey but with red&white turrets...but that is still not the camo in which was hood sunk...so still lying

 

[Bellegar]

Cross post from the other thread because I believe it fits here as well:

 

Hedgehog1963, on 16 May 2017 - 08:26 PM, said:

Just to turn the screw.... I just got a 30% off coupon... expires on the 18th.

 

Yes got that one as well

 

As much as I like 30% discount on my next purchase (it's quite a lot really), the timing just leaves a very bitter taste. The marketing people really are living on another planet.... Or in an asylum...

 

Edit:

 

30% off.. anything?
How?
And yeah, if all you want is HMS Hood, not going to be very useful.

 

Bit more info regarding that, this was the exact wording in the email:

"Clash of the Elements has finished.

Thank you for participating in this epic battle between Fire and Water

The shower of prizes is just beginning

GRAB YOUR REWARD

We've created a special coupon just for you

30% off when you spend €30 or more

This offer applies to all goods in our Premium Shop including already discounted bundles!

Doubloons, Premium ships and Premium Account time can be yours!

Note: This offer expires May 18"

[Spellfire40]

T7 BB ca 35 Euro.
9350 dublons  around 35 euro
250 flags  under 10 euro well they are kind of specal but well most dont buy flags exactly well i would pay money for speed flags only since dobble stirke is actually pretty had to arceive but cant select only what we want so no....
Modules ... T7 dont cost that much plus dam con 2 ? nobody uses that over ruder ...
150 prem consumables 0 Euro nnobody pays real money for that
Hood flag? Well Belfast and Perth flag were actually pretty good compared to Scharnhorst  or Arizona ones if good and not again too much like the other 2 perhaps 10 euro?
​So if you like 70 Euro of worthwile Things plus a 12 Point captain wich is hard to Price............. not much of a Bargain if its 99 Euro if its a Prinz Eugen 130plus packet on the other hand .......

Anyway stagered release produced a lots of Faulout on NA. on the other had they created so many shitstorms since cristmas convoy they might not even care anymore.......

[it3llig3nc3]

 

Did anybody notice that while on EU the final Mission 1 unlock criteria is to win 7 battles and do 120,000 damage, on the US server players only have to do 120,000damage that is far more easier.

 

Is it a typo or again WG has double standards?

 

Has anybody noticed other differences?