HMS Gallant

[TheCinC]

Also remember ships, even cruisers, at that time had open bridges and for destroyers, even the turrets were not fully enclosed..

Imagine being sent on a convoy to Russia..

[fallenkezef]

Also remember ships, even cruisers, at that time had open bridges and for destroyers, even the turrets were not fully enclosed..

Imagine being sent on a convoy to Russia..

My Zgrandpa ran convoy and sub hunting on HMS Wild Goose. He remembers taking a sledgehammer to the ice on deck

[creamgravy]

My guess would be something similar to the KM line with better HE damage

 

Here's my estimated HE DPM compared with the other tier 6 destroyers. (1700 alpha, 7% fire chance, 36% hit rate)

 

Destroyer	Base HE DPM	Accuracy adjusted DPM	Fires per minute	DE
Fubuki	13,500	5,535	0.8	1.1
Hatsuharu	14,400	5,904	0.8	1.2
Gallant (4 x 10 RPM)	17,000	6,120	0.9	1.3
Ernst Gaede 127mm	17,647	6,706	1.0	1.5
Gallant (4 x 12 RPM)	20,400	7,344	1.0	1.6
Shinonome	18,000	7,380	1.0	1.5
Ernst Gaede 150mm	17,600	7,392	1.4	1.7
Farragut C	27,000	8,910	1.1	1.7
Grenville (5 x 12 RPM)	25,500	9,180	1.3	2.0
Gnevny	22,800	9,576	1.4	1.9
Farragut B	33,750	11,138	1.4	2.2

 

10 RPM would be fine if the torpedoes are IX variants. Grenville is the G-Class flotilla leader with 5 guns and could be in a 'leader/gunboat' line.

[fallenkezef]

Curious about Tx for Brit DDs

[GhostRiderMax123]

Curious about Tx for Brit DDs

 

Battle Class? My knowledge on RN DD's is sadly lacking.

[22cm]

Anyway, it looks great and Tier 4 is a sweet spot right now. A T4 premium DD is exactly what I was looking for. I mistaken, I read it in a hurry.

 

Yup, tier 6 is the best possible tier, except the wonderful tier 5.  I think WG noticed a drop in tier 6 ships played, hence the last tier 6 prems to make it up.

[TheCinC]

My Zgrandpa ran convoy and sub hunting on HMS Wild Goose. He remembers taking a sledgehammer to the ice on deck

 

Yeah, saw images of a KGV class BB where they did exactly that..

And they weren't even Canadian..

[Blitzkrieguk]

 

Battle Class? My knowledge on RN DD's is sadly lacking.

 

Curious about Tx for Brit DDs

 

 

HMS Daring. 

[Hedgehog1963]

They leaked some flags a while back, one was a Dunkirk evacuation flag. The whole movie to event to DD tie in makes sense

 

Have you seen the trailer?  It looks fantastic! [Edit: I think this is two trailers joined]

 

[fallenkezef]

 

Have you seen the trailer?  It looks fantastic! [Edit: I think this is two trailers joined]

 

 

Aye, looking forward to it

[Robber_Baron]

Did the real HMS Gallant use camo like that? I can't find any pictures of it.

[creamgravy]

Did the real HMS Gallant use camo like that? I can't find any pictures of it.

 

No. HMS Grenade was using this scheme at Dunkirk. 

[puxflacet]

Obviously British beauty standard are lower than everywhere else.

Hood wants to have a conversation with you.

 

yeah...hood is an exception...

 

[Robber_Baron]

Well, most of the dreadnought-era ships looked pretty imo, only their refits didn't do them any good from an aesthetic point of view.

I agree about many of them (including the Gallant) though, they're not really pretty.

[Spellfire40]

If a G Class DD why not Glowworm? It was way more famous.

Edit:Guess they thoght 2X5 Torps were to powerfull at T6?

[JaiFoh]

Epic troll by Wargaming if the next RN line is Destroyers and not Battleships

Although a Premium British DD in-time for the Dunkirk movie would be good

[Hedgehog1963]

Epic troll by Wargaming if the next RN line is Destroyers and not Battleships

Although a Premium British DD in-time for the Dunkirk movie would be good

 

Nope because some of us prefer DDs to BBs anyway.

[Robber_Baron]

I wouldn't be surprised at all if DDs were released first. Looking at the BB overpopulation it only makes sense.

[Armo1000]

Epic troll by Wargaming if the next RN line is Destroyers and not Battleships

Although a Premium British DD in-time for the Dunkirk movie would be good

 

I would prefer RN DDs over BBs any day. 

 

Its nice to finally get a proper RN DD in the game.

[piet11111]

Obviously British beauty standard are lower than everywhere else.

 

And yet the british pin-up girls are second to none.

[fallenkezef]

My heat wants the BBs first but my playstyle would suit DDs

[DominusEdwardius]

She could make quite an interesting torpedo boat, if she has Leander's torpedoes, she would be quite comparable to the equivalent tier IJN torpedo boats if so.

	Mark IX.	Type 8 model 3.	Type 8 model 2.	G7 Steinbutt.
Damage	15433	14600	16267	13700
Speed	61	63	59	65
Range	8.0	8.0	10.0	8.0
Reload per torpedo	24	24.3	25.3	22.5
Detection range	1.3	1.6	1.5	1.3
Reaction time with target ship sailing 25 knots and torpedoes approaching at 45 degrees to the bow	6.18	7.42	7.30	5.89

 

If she doesn't, I expect she will be pretty terrible with mediocre to poor guns and not too exceptional concealment either...

[creamgravy]

Here's my estimated torpedo performance using Leander Mk IX torps. Although your reaction time figures are far superior than the usual stationary values

 

 

Destroyer	Torpedo	Torpedo Range (km)	Speed (knots)	Time to Target (s)	Time in water (s)	Reaction time (s)	Vigilance (s)	Sonar + Vigilance (s)	Alpha damage	DPM	DPM + skill
Hatsuharu	Type 8 mod 2 (TA)	8	64	37.1	48	9.0	11.2	21.1	97,602	77,054	85,616
Gallant	Mk IX	8	61	38.3*	50	8.2	10.2	22.1	123,464	77,165	85,739
Fubuki	Type 8 mod 2 (TA)	8	64	39.6	48	9.0	11.2	21.1	146,403	115,581	128,424
Shinonome	Type 8 mod 1	8	63	40.3	49	9.7	12.2	21.4	131,400	108,000	120,000
Hatsuharu	Type 8 mod 2	10	59	40.3	65	9.7	12.2	22.9	97,602	77,054	85,616
Ernst Gaede	G7 Stienbutt	8	65	41.9	47	7.7	9.6	20.8	109,600	73,067	81,185
Anshan	53-51	8	60	42.3	51	7.7	9.6	22.5	86,400	65,620	72,911
Fubuki	Type 8 mod 2	10	59	43.0	65	9.7	12.2	22.9	146,403	115,581	128,424

 

*Using an estimated 5.7km surface detection with CE, it's the smallest ship at tier 6.

 

Conclusion.

Gallant replaces Hatsuharu as the best alpha striker (Best accuracy/reaction time/potential damage combo) but she's no Kamikaze.

Fubuki is the best torp spammer (Best DPM/range/time in water combo)

Shinonome (or Fubuki TA) is the best all round torpedo boat.

 

Can't wait.

[DominusEdwardius]

I'm not actually too sure what her concealment will be, she may be small length ways but height, I think she is quite tall in comparison to an IJN DD. I imagine she will probably have a concealment not too dissimilar from Blyskawica, greater than Fubuki at least.

[Spellfire40]

Conclusion.

 

Gallant replaces Hatsuharu as the best alpha striker (Best accuracy/reaction time/potential damage combo) but she's no Kamikaze.

 

Fubuki is the best torp spammer (Best DPM/range/time in water combo)

 

Shinonome (or Fubuki TA) is the best all round torpedo boat.

 

 

 

Can't wait.

Since RN Torp detection is better than IJN (and so is any other nations compared to IJN) thoretical stats dont matter. If stealth is high enogh itsa better Torp platform than IJN Hands down excluding perhaps the too fast Kamikaze/fujin torps.