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So far I'm at Fiji and have all 3 British premiums.

 

My prime captain (currently sat in the Fiji) is level 13.

 

Now which is the best mode and ship to grind this guy to 19? Are lower level ships better for him, co-op or just stick to grinding him as I grind the line?

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I'd say line grinding. I always do that. In my case I can afford the doubloons to skip the training. But if you can't/ won't you can do the premium ship trick: take the half training time with silver and sit out the training xp on the premiums. That way your captain skills are still functioning full power.

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Co-op is not good to grind anything, xp gain is extremely small. If you intend to use this guy on T10 then just grind him as you go. Fastest way to get him to 19 points would be to use first day win bonus on all posiible ships.

With all suitable flags mounted (Zulu Hotel, Dragon) and any Camo that gives you good bonus to Cap XP (Restless for example) whenever possible. Average game on premium should give you around 10k xp a battle. WIth all flags and gamo + daily win, on good battle - above 20k easy.

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I have the Minotaur with a level 17 captain (got 2 points spare think I might go for the +HP skill but not sure what I'd spend the spare point on). If you want to grind the line that would be the best way to train him, so you can do both at once. Premiums obviously have the XP bonus, but you aren't going to want the same skills, and once you get to T8+ you will get similar amounts of XP from higher tier games anyway. Also the retraining trick above is good, especially if you want to earn some credits to mod up your new boat at the same time.

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Co-op is not good to grind anything, xp gain is extremely small. If you intend to use this guy on T10 then just grind him as you go. Fastest way to get him to 19 points would be to use first day win bonus on all posiible ships.

With all suitable flags mounted (Zulu Hotel, Dragon) and any Camo that gives you good bonus to Cap XP (Restless for example) whenever possible. Average game on premium should give you around 10k xp a battle. WIth all flags and gamo + daily win, on good battle - above 20k easy.

 

Yeah, did all the 200% this weekend on my prems and Fiji with him. I guess it's going to be a long haul as I'm a casual scrub. But I am enjoying it. Hopefully will have him 19 in time for the British BBs so I can their caps quicker
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Wish WG would sell Dragons on the prm shop, bloody hard to find. Only had two supercontainers so far and they where less than fun

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I have the Minotaur with a level 17 captain (got 2 points spare think I might go for the +HP skill but not sure what I'd spend the spare point on). If you want to grind the line that would be the best way to train him, so you can do both at once. Premiums obviously have the XP bonus, but you aren't going to want the same skills, and once you get to T8+ you will get similar amounts of XP from higher tier games anyway. Also the retraining trick above is good, especially if you want to earn some credits to mod up your new boat at the same time.

 

The HP skill has me worried, fires and floods do damage by % so more HP means more damage from them. My ships catch fire allot lately

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I have the module to reduce time of fires and floods, but AP to the citadel is much more of a threat to the RN cruisers, especially to Neptune and Minotaur as it sits much higher above the waterline. HP skill also stacks with your heal ability, so you can regain more health after taking a hit. Really the name of the game in this line is to do your damage and as soon as someone points their guns towards you GTFO. Maybe either take the repair module or premium damage control, I wouldn't use captain skills for fire or basics of survivability on these ships.

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Fastest way to get him to 19 points would be to use first day win bonus on all posiible ships.

Something like this, but get the first day bonus on the 3 premium ships, while grinding the main line. The higher the tier, the more XP you get.

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Fastest way to get him to 19 points would be to use first day win bonus on all posiible ships.

22cm: Something like this, but get the first day bonus on the 3 premium ships, while grinding the main line. The higher the tier, the more XP you get.

--------------------- ( some problem with multiquote, my post is below )

 

This is how I got my first 19 point captain, I even made a spreadsheet to check my progress.

I had to do 20 battles to get 165267 points - I know, I not the best captain...

I have a nice fleet of premium RU ships so that's why I chose Gordey to be my test subject - IJN captain Kiyoshi is the next to get trained and I might use the free XP from Gordey to boost him.

 

Summer: 165267
Kaptein: Gordey Ilyin
Nasjon: RU
02.05.2017 6977
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  3834
03.05.2017 10029
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04.05.2017 5570
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Just grind a single line so that you can use the captain on the normal tech tree ship it's trained for and every premium you can effectively use it on. You get the most out of daily win this way.

 

Alternatively stop caring about daily win and just grind one ship really hard, ranked is a good time to do this.

 

Of course you use flags, camo, premium and all that.

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So far I'm at Fiji and have all 3 British premiums.

 

My prime captain (currently sat in the Fiji) is level 13.

 

Now which is the best mode and ship to grind this guy to 19? Are lower level ships better for him, co-op or just stick to grinding him as I grind the line?

 

Belfast.
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Grinding Captain for the Brit cruiser line is difficult, because no Brit premiums are "working" efficiently with the skill-set required for the standard cruiser line (short fuse AP specialist smoke hiding torpedo ships)

My strategy was to grind with the standard Brit cruiser line one captain and use all flags to boost captain skill process.

I have Belfast but when I tried to use the standard Brit cruiser configured captain on that it made the gameplay inefficient. (I did not like it at all)

By the time you get to the Minotaur (if you do not skip (FreeXP) some ships you will have a decent captain around 17/18 skillpoint. 

Grinding the rest in Minotaur is fun if you like the style of the Brit cruiser line - I'm not a good player, especially in Minotaur but I like the ship very much.

 

Another way of Captain Grind - if you already have at least 1 19 skillpoint captain, then configure it and put it on a prem ship and play a lot with it. It will gain FreeCaptain XP that can be allocated to any other captain later. This way you can develop captains of any nation even without actually playing them a lot.

 

Last and most expensive way (NOT recommended, but technically possible) to convert your FreeXP to Captain XP.... :))))) Wargaming will LOVE YOU! forever.

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Grinding Captain for the Brit cruiser line is difficult, because no Brit premiums are "working" efficiently with the skill-set required for the standard cruiser line (short fuse AP specialist smoke hiding torpedo ships)

My strategy was to grind with the standard Brit cruiser line one captain and use all flags to boost captain skill process.

I have Belfast but when I tried to use the standard Brit cruiser configured captain on that it made the gameplay inefficient. (I did not like it at all)

By the time you get to the Minotaur (if you do not skip (FreeXP) some ships you will have a decent captain around 17/18 skillpoint. 

Grinding the rest in Minotaur is fun if you like the style of the Brit cruiser line - I'm not a good player, especially in Minotaur but I like the ship very much.

 

Another way of Captain Grind - if you already have at least 1 19 skillpoint captain, then configure it and put it on a prem ship and play a lot with it. It will gain FreeCaptain XP that can be allocated to any other captain later. This way you can develop captains of any nation even without actually playing them a lot.

 

Last and most expensive way (NOT recommended, but technically possible) to convert your FreeXP to Captain XP.... :))))) Wargaming will LOVE YOU! forever.

 

Doesn't have to be a premium ship. If your US DD Captain has 19 points then you don't need to play a Sims to get Elite Captain XP, playing the Fletcher or the Gearing he's trained on will get it as well.

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May of course depend on personal preferences, but the only real difference between a dedicated Belfast build and a high tier general RN cruiser build to me was IFHE vs AFT. Granted, it makes the Belfast less stupidly simple to play, but not in any way more difficult as other cruisers. Just pay a bit more attention to potential damage over time opportunities to put the higher fire chance to good use and full broadsides for higher AP damage, that's basically it. 

Warspite may be a bit less suitable, clearly a PITA without EM and I wouldn't usually take that on the techtree ships (AR first choice, jack of all trades second), but AFT works fine. CE is a must on all of them anyway, so where's the big problem? Let's face it, in all likelihood you'll never will be the one with the most tarded build in the match no matter what. (Looking at you, SE BBs...)

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With 12 points, you can make a mongrel captain that will work for all those ships, but not the best build for each of them

 

1. PT

2. EM (Warspit) + LS (Campbelle)

3. SI

4. CE

 

Next you can take PM for 1 point, or SE for 3, or IFHE (Belle) for 4. When you get 19 points, respec with gold for the ship you liked the most.

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Grinding Captain for the Brit cruiser line is difficult, because no Brit premiums are "working" efficiently with the skill-set required for the standard cruiser line (short fuse AP specialist smoke hiding torpedo ships)

My strategy was to grind with the standard Brit cruiser line one captain and use all flags to boost captain skill process.

I have Belfast but when I tried to use the standard Brit cruiser configured captain on that it made the gameplay inefficient. (I did not like it at all)

By the time you get to the Minotaur (if you do not skip (FreeXP) some ships you will have a decent captain around 17/18 skillpoint. 

Grinding the rest in Minotaur is fun if you like the style of the Brit cruiser line - I'm not a good player, especially in Minotaur but I like the ship very much.

 

Another way of Captain Grind - if you already have at least 1 19 skillpoint captain, then configure it and put it on a prem ship and play a lot with it. It will gain FreeCaptain XP that can be allocated to any other captain later. This way you can develop captains of any nation even without actually playing them a lot.

 

Last and most expensive way (NOT recommended, but technically possible) to convert your FreeXP to Captain XP.... :))))) Wargaming will LOVE YOU! forever.

 

Very true.

 

I am a collector have played over 10000 games and have only 1 19 p captain but at least 100 between 10-17 so I predict a snowball effect. I play a few games with my 19 p captain every day to get those Elite XP points (I have premiums for it also though they are not matched in skill). After I have the luck recently to get a supercontainer with 100 Dragon flags I do a determined effort to get a 19 pt captain on Yamato + 1 US BB captain. With those ready I will be getting Elite XP in a increased pace. I have also lots of restless fire camos though I have bought the Premium camo on a few T10 (Yamato , Des Moines) and with 100% XP bonus this will make a long term impact and gives credits too with the decreased repair costs.

 

I was very happy with the introduction of Elite XP. But i am not certain of how the best use is, so far I have used it to ease the upwards moving of captains which I previously never used, first the silver use for 50% and EliteXP for the rest. So far I have started with new captains with some very few exceptions, most of these where 10 p Premium captains which arrived with the Santas Gifts and Graf Spee captain which I use for Roon. My goal is to start in higher tiers with at least a 10 p captain. In lower tiers I start with new 3 p captains. My goal is to have at least 14 p captains on all ships that I play frequently above T5. 10-12 you get almost automatic by grinding even from scratch (3p), depending on flags, camos etc.

 

Belfast is a little oddity as she has HE rounds but I concur with Hedgehog1963 that she is excellent.

If you like your Warspite she is fine too, Superintendent works fine with British cruisers and Warspite though she is in great need of EM Turret traverse, but you can have good games with her anyway.

Cambeltown on T3 is at too low tier to make an impact XP wise but if you like her you can play her in the 100% First win days at least. Thge grind is more fun if you like the ships your play even if it is slow.

My 19 pt captain in Chikuma took 1500 games at T2!

 

As there is no ranked season now Random is the only option.

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Belfast.

 

 

Hmm..... HE goodness

 

Specifically IFHE.   It is really deadly.

 

I have a 19 point Commander in Belfast set up as Flamu suggests and I get great results.  Of course one good thing WG did was allow me to send the excess commander XP to any other commander.  Makes more sense to play my Belfast with a 19 pointer in it that play the scrub I'm trying to develop.

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The Problem is british trainers. Campeltown mew Warspite okish, Belfast ok but to get real good results you need a atypical captain. Having another 19 captain in a ship you enjoy to produce captain points I use shima yamato gering des Moines, Gering,Aki and Zao usally to enogh points to buff ships I'd like to replay to at least 10 point that way.

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Is CE really worth it?

 

Yes the British cruiser will have a competetive concealment with this , USN and IJN are also good and you need to be near their values. Besides it gives you the opportunity to sneak closer, something you need with the guns in my opinion. I am not that experienced in RN cruisers or good (I played the Edinburgh with radar just to see how it worked) but on the Neptune i have returned to smoke. I use CE on all high tier cruisers, UN navys cruisers are lethal to RN and have recieved buffs in RoF and some has got better concealment.

Made me buy premium camo for Des Moines. 

 

I would have felt very handicapped without CE and concealment module in RN cruisers, even that I am not good it would have been worse without. 

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