[ARKAS] AMONAS1 Players 8 posts 33,658 battles Report post #1 Posted May 6, 2017 (edited) Smoke is deployed and 3 ships are in it. No hydro No radar. They have MAX accurasy because they get my position from their team. FAIR? They can go into smoke and take my position from their team but having MAX accurasy without your own targeting system is UNFAIR. When ships are in the smoke they must have biger dispersion on their guns. They dont see me they take my position from their team. 07-05-2017 Yes the BBs should suffer the same penalty when they fire from MAX distance. 2 kills in max range in under 1 min is not right. Burning BBs is right. Citadels for cruisers is right. Accurate torps from smoke is right. Be able to have MAX accuracy from smoke is wrong. It is not that 2 DDs 1 cruiser and a BB can stay in the smoke for ALL the duration of a game. It is that you can not attack a formation like that. I dont have a problem with 1 DD or 1 cruiser be in the smoke. The only defence in a smoke with multiple ships in it, is to run, run, run and hope that you are out of their firing range. BBs stay in the edges and snipe and the rest in the smoke hoping someone comes close. (I will NOT stay at the edge, I will die). Edited May 7, 2017 by AMONAS1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] Earl_of_Northesk Players 2,447 posts 14,711 battles Report post #2 Posted May 6, 2017 What exactly are you complaining about? Can't tell, your english is way too bad. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SICK] Exocet6951 Weekend Tester 5,151 posts 11,809 battles Report post #3 Posted May 6, 2017 People playing as a team OP 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cosseria Players 1,064 posts 4,944 battles Report post #4 Posted May 6, 2017 Allow me to quote myself, from something I posted an hour ago. The game is on a straight course to become world of BBs, yet the BBabies' whining is strong as ever 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LetsRockAndRoll Players 720 posts 9,732 battles Report post #5 Posted May 6, 2017 Is he talking about the last ranked season? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MIMI] MudMonkey Beta Tester 1,338 posts 8,375 battles Report post #6 Posted May 6, 2017 Smoke is deployed and 3 ships are in it. No hydro No radar. They have MAX accurasy because they get my position from their team. FAIR? They can go into smoke and take my position from their team but having MAX accurasy without your own targeting system is UNFAIR. What if they use torps out of the smoke? Did you take into consideration that some ships a balanced around their smoke? You are not a new player and should know by now how to counter smoke. Maybe you should question yourself if you can do something differently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Gojuadorai Players 2,832 posts 21,712 battles Report post #7 Posted May 6, 2017 vote for more accurate posting -> yes! i hate minimum effort rage topics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POI--] dasCKD Quality Poster 2,376 posts 19,148 battles Report post #8 Posted May 6, 2017 So many chances for me to post my copy-paste memes 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[__] Kais_S012 Beta Tester 742 posts 1,694 battles Report post #9 Posted May 6, 2017 how do you think gunnery crews hit targets over the horizon in real life? they generally had a plane or another ship closer to the target transmitting their volley results and recommending aim corrections. that is represented in game by players seeing what their team has spotted (within radio range) christ! At this rate the BBabies are going to over take the Teaboos as the most selfentitled players again... t'was a short reign y'all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tenacious_torps ∞ Players 1,373 posts Report post #10 Posted May 6, 2017 (edited) We can debate that idea if and when you agree, that the same mechanic should apply to all instances of ships not spoting their target on their own. I'll spell it out for you, yes? That would mean a nerf to BB accuracy when shooting at anything other than another BB, since they rarely are close enough to the enemy to even spot cruisers, let alone DDs, on their own. In that light: yes, brilliant idea, implement asap. Edited May 6, 2017 by tenacious_torps 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillydSquid Players 671 posts Report post #11 Posted May 6, 2017 Smoke is deployed and 3 ships are in it. No hydro No radar. They have MAX accurasy because they get my position from their team. FAIR? They can go into smoke and take my position from their team but having MAX accurasy without your own targeting system is UNFAIR. When ships are in the smoke they must have biger dispersion on their guns. They dont see me they take my position from their team. It's called spotting, the same thing you use with artillery when you call in coordinates. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyllon Players 2,588 posts Report post #12 Posted May 6, 2017 So many chances for me to post my copy-paste memes Admit it. You just want to advertise your drawing. BTW OP, your poll suggests ships inside a smoke should be penalised when shooting out of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BRITS] fallenkezef [BRITS] Players 1,788 posts 1,955 battles Report post #13 Posted May 6, 2017 Op, grind the British CL line but use spotter aircraft instead of smoke. See how long you last Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #14 Posted May 6, 2017 Smoke is deployed and 3 ships are in it. No hydro No radar. They have MAX accurasy because they get my position from their team. FAIR? They can go into smoke and take my position from their team but having MAX accurasy without your own targeting system is UNFAIR. When ships are in the smoke they must have biger dispersion on their guns. They dont see me they take my position from their team. As you have too when you shoot ships that you do not spot youself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POI--] dasCKD Quality Poster 2,376 posts 19,148 battles Report post #15 Posted May 6, 2017 Admit it. You just want to advertise your drawing. I can neither confirm nor deny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyllon Players 2,588 posts Report post #16 Posted May 6, 2017 I can neither confirm nor deny. Ladies and Gentlemen: intelligence employee. ^^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BRITS] fallenkezef [BRITS] Players 1,788 posts 1,955 battles Report post #17 Posted May 6, 2017 As you have too when you shoot ships that you do not spot youself. No, OP clearly has no problem with shootingvtargets his team's DD spots for him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLOBS] Spellfire40 Beta Tester 5,330 posts 13,776 battles Report post #18 Posted May 6, 2017 (edited) Smoke is static so are ships in smoke . They anoy you and you dont have the Tools or eyesight to aim at muzzleflaches? why should THEY get an Penalty for it? either learn how to Play Radar sonar ships yourselfs or torp teh Cloud or go somewere else. Unless ist a Perth the smoke wont follow and even with her just slowly. 1st all cry about invis fire from open water and now some ships that are forced to smoke up to get some damage down anoy you? togh luck THIS is what all the whiners wanted and WG delivered.....Ist also not Fair to get into a open water map in a Cruiser you tend to end game with less than 10k Damage at time........ Edited May 6, 2017 by Spellfire40 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] loppantorkel Players 4,506 posts 15,942 battles Report post #19 Posted May 6, 2017 Smoke is deployed and 3 ships are in it. No hydro No radar. They have MAX accurasy because they get my position from their team. FAIR? They can go into smoke and take my position from their team but having MAX accurasy without your own targeting system is UNFAIR. When ships are in the smoke they must have biger dispersion on their guns. They dont see me they take my position from their team. If you want it more realistic, you'd have to lower the accuracy when ships are detected by radar/sonar and shot in smoke, and bb-accuracy at long range, etc. ..but I doubt it's fairness or realism you're really seeking here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drunken_Jedi Players 849 posts 2,954 battles Report post #20 Posted May 6, 2017 Lol... the number of crying threads today is hilarious. It's just like the BBaby bingo board, we had a "HE OP PLZ NERF!" now we have a "smoke op!" thread... who's up for doing the "TORPEDOES STUPID OP" thread? To the OP, honestly by this point I really don't have anything constructive to say other than "l2p" and "git gud". There are COUNTLESS resources online, especially on Youtube with Notser, iChase (not the biggest fan nowadays) and Flamu who is an exceptional player and well worth watching his commentaries. Put some effort into learning the game and you will improve, pointless crying on the forums asking for WG to buff your apparent lack of skill just makes you look like a fool. Sadly WG seem to listen to you lunatics and it's steadily ruining the game. I miss the good old days of CBT! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WGB] 13Ninjas Players 198 posts 2,769 battles Report post #21 Posted May 6, 2017 When ships are in the smoke they must have biger dispersion on their guns. They dont see me they take my position from their team. Do you realise the complexity of what your asking WG to do to every single ship in WOWS? we would suffer months of problems due to this, and I think the vote update so far says it all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Devantejah Alpha Tester 1,049 posts 2,356 battles Report post #22 Posted May 6, 2017 Moooom, it's unfair! Make them stop! Also, the gameplay isn't supposed to be that realistic, if you haven't noticed. Oh, and not like battleships are stronk enough, amirite? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BRITS] fallenkezef [BRITS] Players 1,788 posts 1,955 battles Report post #23 Posted May 6, 2017 Well thst poll doesnt seem to be helping op Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #24 Posted May 6, 2017 FAIR? Yes. Also mandatory Bbingo 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daki Weekend Tester 1,677 posts 20,280 battles Report post #25 Posted May 6, 2017 I can neither confirm nor deny. Ladies and Gentlemen: intelligence employee. ^^ Hahaha it reminded me a bit of Oliver North. To paraphrase him, dasCKD could have stated: "I have absolutely no recollection if it was meant as an advertisement or not - my memory has been shredded" 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
