CoE event nearing its end, some thoughts.

[krautjaeger]

First of all I played casual, on average 1-1.5ish hour a day and ended up with 300 coins. That's about the time I have, and I can't but wonder that most people that have a life outside the game are restricted to the same amount of time max per day and even less. Which means this event, like so many others, are targeting those that can grind for hours on end and I suspect that by and large these are not the majority by a long stretch of the current player base.

I wonder when companies, not only WG, are going to realise having a huge grind that's supposed to keep customers playing doesn't equal the customer having fun. All events, yet again other companies as well, are designed so you'll stay in the game for such a long time that eventually you'll end up buying something and then companies compete with each other to have most people stuck in events both minor and longer ones. It's an age old idea, keep the customer in the store until he buys something, but most stores (except IKEA with its maze) have abandoned this and know that a happy customer is one that buys something and it does not make the customer happy to be trapped in a store for a long period of time, he'll end up leaving and go to another store where he can roam freely and leave whenever and that feeling makes him more likely to buy something there.

 

Comparing this year event to last year's, I found this years event lacking and more of an ad-campaign for the "special modules" that they introduced than anything else. Sure the Kamikaze at the top, but again for those that can grind like no tomorrow only, last year you could pick up a lot of cool goodies if you didn't get all the way to the top. Well, tomorrow it is over and hopefully games can get back to some kind of normal.

[Skyllon]

I wonder when companies, not only WG, are going to realise having a huge grind that's supposed to keep customers playing doesn't equal the customer having fun.

 

It might even have opposite effect. Besides dissapointment in case of those who had high hopes for the top reward, after such grind many people might take a break, thus leading to less players online after the event.

I imagine it could put some off for quite some time.

[RUSSIANBlAS]

I have 475 and I've hardly played in the last week or so...

 

Sorry WG but it was a rubbish event.

 

"Missions" were a joke as you got them simply from playing, so there was no point in playing to a different style or a different ship etc. Whilst idiotic missions like Kraken or spotting DDs with a BB are bad you could have atleast have tried some creativity? Prizes are equally lol worthy, impossible goals for the Kami R when 2 years ago we could have all had one for a lot less grind. Stop pushing junk modules now seriously, I barely care about containers and almost think the old micro missions were preferable...

 

What will I spend my coins on, do I even care... 

 

 

[eliastion]

"Missions" were a joke as you got them simply from playing, so there was no point in playing to a different style or a different ship etc.

 

That I have to disagree on. Good luck farming ribbons in carriers or BBs (especially non-german oes), or even heavy cruisers... Same for damage on low tier DDs, XP on low tier anything etc.Yes, you could get everything by just playing - but more likely than not you need to "just play" high-ish tier gunboat or light cruiser for that to happen.

[RUSSIANBlAS]

 

That I have to disagree on. Good luck farming ribbons in carriers or BBs (especially non-german oes), or even heavy cruisers... Same for damage on low tier DDs, XP on low tier anything etc.Yes, you could get everything by just playing - but more likely than not you need to "just play" high-ish tier gunboat or light cruiser for that to happen.

 

No true... I forget not everyone owns and dabbles in a bit of everything when they play. 

[eliastion]

Comparing this year event to last year's, I found this years event lacking and more of an ad-campaign for the "special modules" that they introduced than anything else.

 

Not even that, really. Most people wouldn't get more than 1-2 special modules (even if they take them over more obviously useful camos and premium time), too few to really try the junk out. Mow, if they went 50 coins apiece (abd some limit to how many of one kind you can get so people don't just stock exclusively on speedboost but try others if they see ANY potential in them)...

At he price as it stands only the people with concrete plans for modules will get them.

[RUSSIANBlAS]

 

Not even that, really. Most people wouldn't get more than 1-2 special modules (even if they take them over more obviously useful camos and premium time), too few to really try the junk out. Mow, if they went 50 coins apiece (abd some limit to how many of one kind you can get so people don't just stock exclusively on speedboost but try others if they see ANY potential in them)...

At he price as it stands only the people with concrete plans for modules will get them.

 

I could actually do with a few more speed boost modules however I'd rather spend my coins on camos to buff my grinding as nowadays I barely play beyond the daily bonus in any one ship.

 

Also I entirely expect to win a speed boost module or 4 in SCs. Currently on five Defensive AAs via SC plus the one I won from Ranked...

[eliastion]

 

No true... I forget not everyone owns and dabbles in a bit of everything when they play. 

 

Well, many people have their favourite class or favourite ships and missions that are unsuited to that certainly require them to change their normal routine (or might be impossible if a player in question is, say, a dedicated BB and CV player and doesn't even own gunboat or CLs - his damage might go through the roof if he plays enough, and well enough. But ribbons? No chance).

[piet11111]

I managed 145 coins then i realized just what kind of grind this was going to be so i started playing GTA5 again.

If wargaming had considered a more reasonable event i would not have taken a break from wows so thanks wargaming.

[RUSSIANBlAS]

I managed 145 coins then i realized just what kind of grind this was going to be so i started playing GTA5 again.

If wargaming had considered a more reasonable event i would not have taken a break from wows so thanks wargaming.

 

 Yeah... Strangely I took up playing WoT instead of grinding this silly event. I'm grinding up to T5 with various tank types and intend to stay there. Not going to throw money at Prem Tanks and large amounts of gold.

 

[fallenkezef]

 

 Yeah... Strangely I took up playing WoT instead of grinding this silly event. I'm grinding up to T5 with various tank types and intend to stay there. Not going to throw money at Prem Tanks and large amounts of gold.

 

 

It's worth going to T6 in many lines. British for instance comes alive at T6 with the Cromwell

[Cosseria]

Didn't even sign up to try to scoop some coins, I've got no use for the lesser rewards. Actually I'm glad the final reward was unreachable, I hardly have time to play and I don't like to feel compelled to reach my daily quota.

[RUSSIANBlAS]

 

It's worth going to T6 in many lines. British for instance comes alive at T6 with the Cromwell

 

 British feels like pain... Medium Tanks with paper armour. And even stuff like the AT2 look awkward on paper.

 

So far my list of tanks are Derp M4, T1, T34, IO Exp and KV1. Still need to unlock Stug and T67. That's enough to enjoy for awhile I think.

[fallenkezef]

 

 British feels like pain... Medium Tanks with paper armour. And even stuff like the AT2 look awkward on paper.

 

So far my list of tanks are Derp M4, T1, T34, IO Exp and KV1. Still need to unlock Stug and T67. That's enough to enjoy for awhile I think.

 

The turretless TDs are pointless. Turreted Brit TD line is good and the meds are excelelnt cavalry tanks, depends on playstyle.

 

I've pretty much ignored this cote thing. Came to WoWS because I finaly gave up on WT's empty promises for their ship game. Quite enjoying WoWS (still prefer how WT do tanks and planes however)

[RUSSIANBlAS]

 

The turretless TDs are pointless. Turreted Brit TD line is good and the meds are excelelnt cavalry tanks, depends on playstyle.

 

I've pretty much ignored this cote thing. Came to WoWS because I finaly gave up on WT's empty promises for their ship game. Quite enjoying WoWS (still prefer how WT do tanks and planes however)

 

 

I'll give British a go after I've fully upgraded my wish list. WoT is quick and dirty, can easily play 2 or 3 games in the space of one ships game. 

 

Hetzer is a pain even with Derp power. I'll see how I take to Stug but T67 is accepted as strong and i see them perform very well in game.

[MoveZig]

I'm thankful for the free stuff but this was a fail event and this should have been obvious from the planning phase. If they wanted to make it more engaging, they should have had more engaging goals rather than the things you already do passively (EXP, winning battles etc.) The registration rules were undeniably ill-conceived - the game should assign teams to balance player numbers. It's fine to have grind-based objectives so everyone can participate, but they should be more specific - hit with X number of torpedoes, do X amount of damage to higher-tier enemies etc. Things a player can aim for, without screwing up the way matches are played out (as it would be if, e.g. you rewarded players for killing members of the opposite team). Pretty much anything would be less boring than this event.

[deadly_if_swallowed]

I appreciate having an event like this in general. But it pales in comparison to the Grand Naval Battles event we had last year. GNB was not Fire vs Water, it was All Players vs Time (disregarding the "surprise" at the end which was a bit ridiculous). We had daily missions, weekly missions, achievements for everyone (flags at certain stages), unlockable server-wide benefits (better xp bonus on the following weekend), and a MUCH larger gift shop to trade diamonds.

 

Project R, and especially GNB, were such great events imho. At that time I really felt comfortable with WGEU, they sure had put some effort into these events. This time it looks like "Damn, we need an event. Everyone likes Pokemon. Let's do a Red vs Blue. And we need to promote those new modules, nobody seems to like them" - yeah, nice picture with the two tigers, great piece of art, but the event lacked love and dedication.

Even I, who usually tries to understand and defend a lot of WGEU's decisions, slowly start suspecting there was a "Don't give them good rewards. NA will go mad if EU gets good rewards for once" involved in the process.

[Skyllon]

GNB was not Fire vs Water, it was All Players vs Time (disregarding the "surprise" at the end which was a bit ridiculous)

 

Give devil its due. It was a proper surprise. Nobody expected that.

GNB in my opinion was much better mainly because of things available in shop. Everyone could find something cool there.

[fallenkezef]

Cant say cote was worth it

[cro_pwr]

The best part of this event for me was how Fire completely wrecked Water in round 1, just to see a HUGE COMEBACK from Water in round 2, but Fire somehow managed to get their game up and completely demolished Water in decisive round 3.

 

It was like watching a football game between Barcelona and Real Madrid, where Barcelona had 7:0 lead in the first half, RM managed to get back to 7:7 till the end of regular time, and then Barcelona scored 6 goals in extra time! Quite realistic if you ask me!

[IsamuKondera]

I got basically everything out of it that i could. I have the KamiR Camo and still 610 coins now. But I still don't know which things i should buy with it now.

 

But I still need to say: The grind was really hard. I don't know why we got such a grindfest but I'm currently a bit burned out.

 

Yes, I got some nice things but at the end: I played around 700 battles or something like that over the last month now. And I don't know what I should really think about it. It's not like I hate the event or something like that but it was just too much in my eyes...

 

I hope WG does less grindy things in the future...

[MoveZig]

Wait, there are awards for the winning team in this openly rigged competition? Really? Give everyone the flag and achievement, it's not like anyone contributed to red winning. Not when WG blocked registration at will.

[Captain_Strawberry]

I'm curious as to this reward that the top 100 are getting. Unless WG decided to not explain things clearly and the additional 100 coins reward is what they meant.

[svadilfari]

I have the KamiR Camo and still 610 coins now

 

you sir, are a crazy person

[Gnirf]

As I have unfortunately too much time I can tell you that I have played since 13 april over 350 games T5+, but this did not yield more than around 605 Gold, Crazy! 

And I was not even close any of the 100 first in the categories, the best was roughly at 2/3 level.

No I will not whine, but as a marketing event this should bring happiness and excitement, like the ongoing campaigns (Honorable service, Science of victory), GNB was quite alright, the demands were high but more realistic, I had no difficulty to reach Albany f.e., despite being stupid enough not to join immediately. And the combination of weekly targets and long term targets were in its idea rather sound.

 

It would not been difficult to give points to various achievements f.e. Kraken gives points, a win gives a low point, sunk ships gets low points, but you can wary them almost indefinately, scoring 1 000 000 damage gives some points etc.. Repeatable of course. You can have a high achievements that are one off only  but is valid for the whole period etc. You can wary according to ships/Tiers etc.

 

I want to have fun, for me I have played as usual (very much) but I have not being close to 800 as the last few gold are tougher. And I realized it after a few days and after a few videos explaining the impossible. While the Graf Spee mission was at least achievable (not for casual players but for me) this was more or less impossible. To be in the first 100 in various tasks I also deemed impossible, contributors and some others who plays full time more or less are quite a few and therefor already takes a lot.

 

I wonder how WG calculated the successrate, I can agree with their policy regarding weekly missions that the goal is that the fifth mission should be difficult, but here I wonder, they must have calculated how many games a realistic player that wanted Kamikaze must manage to win it. Sure I have seen some that have reached it but was the goal really that only full time players should be able to get it? And many of the rest disappointed?

 

I therefor made a desicion not to bother I take what gold I get but it is more a bonus. Perhaps as the first gold were easily achieved the most pleased are those who plays more casual say 2-5 games a day + a little more on weekends as they will get more per hour/game invested.  I have Kamikaze R already so for a better camo it was easy to distance myself from the event.  I set a goal after the first week to get three speed boosts during the event. This defused my own frustration.