[QARTV] EMILY_FINEBOTTOM Players 13 posts Report post #1 Posted May 3, 2017 I have found the Neptune is made of glaSS even DD's hit my citadel, everyone else knows it too so I get focused first. I thought maybe its me but I focus opposing Neptunes and they blow up so easy not uncommon for me to hit 4 citadels on one shot on the Neptune. I hit the citadels with my DD's too. Most Brit ships are easy to cripple but the Neptune is a joke. Anyone else have the same experience? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] SV_Kompresor Beta Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 5,868 posts Report post #2 Posted May 3, 2017 It's a light cruiser it's not supposed to have armor.....I dare you to play emile bertin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Gojuadorai Players 2,832 posts 21,712 battles Report post #3 Posted May 3, 2017 neptune does not need more armor ! (and its one of my favorite ships to play) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daki Weekend Tester 1,677 posts 20,280 battles Report post #4 Posted May 3, 2017 I have found the Neptune is made of glaSS even DD's hit my citadel, everyone else knows it too so I get focused first. I thought maybe its me but I focus opposing Neptunes and they blow up so easy not uncommon for me to hit 4 citadels on one shot on the Neptune. I hit the citadels with my DD's too. Most Brit ships are easy to cripple but the Neptune is a joke. Anyone else have the same experience? Be careful what you ask for. More armor means less overpens Thin armor is often an asset and not a liability. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #5 Posted May 3, 2017 You need to be awake to play Neptune. I've killed them in an Edinburgh, ambushed and killed with sAP before they could react. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PNAVY] Duke_of_Asia Players 50 posts 14,245 battles Report post #6 Posted May 3, 2017 (edited) RN Cls don't have armour hence they get the Smoke and Heal(super heal at t8+). I m not saying this to you op but i have seen many RN CL captains not using smoke and going guns blazing out in open seas only to get citadel. the only thing those guys use smoke is for running away and i watch it like Edited May 3, 2017 by Duke_of_Asia Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] Jethro_Grey Players 5,207 posts 25,733 battles Report post #7 Posted May 3, 2017 Neptune with more armour would be a nightmare to play against, i don't think that something we really need. The lack of armour is a balancing factor for the higher tier RN CLs, giving them useful amounts of armour would make them blatantly OP. I can only imagine the horrors that my Minotaur would unleash even without smokescreen on enemy ships, so yeah i'm all for it. ^^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PNAVY] Duke_of_Asia Players 50 posts 14,245 battles Report post #8 Posted May 3, 2017 Be careful what you ask for. More armor means less overpens Thin armor is often an asset and not a liability. its true m8 but the citadel is too high in water even blind shoots enter it. Since all or nothing armour layout is bad asset in this game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[QARTV] EMILY_FINEBOTTOM Players 13 posts Report post #9 Posted May 3, 2017 so far it seems the Neptune is accepted as being glass but people seem ok with it because it has smoke good repairs personally I cant wait to sell it and move on and try Mino Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] Jethro_Grey Players 5,207 posts 25,733 battles Report post #10 Posted May 3, 2017 so far it seems the Neptune is accepted as being glass but people seem ok with it because it has smoke good repairs personally I cant wait to sell it and move on and try Mino Mino is as squishy as Neptune, the difference is that it has a better RoF which alone makes it worth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
procrastinatingStudent Beta Tester 506 posts 6,411 battles Report post #11 Posted May 3, 2017 so far it seems the Neptune is accepted as being glass but people seem ok with it because it has smoke good repairs personally I cant wait to sell it and move on and try Mino well im sorry to inform you it's the same if not worse as people like to target the mino (with good reason) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BOTS] deadly_if_swallowed Players 1,678 posts 13,867 battles Report post #12 Posted May 3, 2017 More armor usually means more weight, usually means less maneuverability (if WG would want a trade-off). And you'd probably need quite a lot of additional armor to reach certain thresholds and thus notice any change with it. I think Neptune is fine as she is right now. Small caliber shells still bounce if angled, and your nemesis calibers, 380-410mm, would pen you either way. 460mm often gets those annoying citadel overpens, especially at close range, driving the Yamato player nuts, including me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #13 Posted May 3, 2017 I also recommend rolling with radar instead of smoke. Use islands to conceal you, not unreliable smoke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SICK] Exocet6951 Weekend Tester 5,151 posts 11,809 battles Report post #14 Posted May 3, 2017 I also recommend rolling with radar instead of smoke. Use islands to conceal you, not unreliable smoke. That pseudo-unicum guide to the Minotaur was hilarious indeed, with that radar and all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #15 Posted May 3, 2017 That pseudo-unicum guide to the Minotaur was hilarious indeed, with that radar and all. It actually works too. I'm rolling in my Edinburgh with radar instead of smoke. Plays like an Atlanta with better torps. It teaches you to be sneaky instead of using smoke and getting rekt because of the tiny cloud. Of course if you get Tears or that stupid map with the big islands between A and B then you're likely screwed... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SICK] Exocet6951 Weekend Tester 5,151 posts 11,809 battles Report post #16 Posted May 3, 2017 It actually works too. I'm rolling in my Edinburgh with radar instead of smoke. Plays like an Atlanta with better torps. It teaches you to be sneaky instead of using smoke and getting rekt because of the tiny cloud. Of course if you get Tears or that stupid map with the big islands between A and B then you're likely screwed... I'll have to try it if I one day get the courage to grind a whole new captain. No matter what, I'm keeping the Fiji Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #17 Posted May 3, 2017 I'll have to try it if I one day get the courage to grind a whole new captain. No matter what, I'm keeping the Fiji Only need a 10 point one to rock so it doesn't take too long. Oh I'm in no rush due to WG's policy on nerfs, changes and events means I only ever grind the daily bonus. I'm still feeling the 85k xp sting from Udaloi spilt... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BEACH] Unknown_Lifeform Beta Tester 272 posts 8,450 battles Report post #18 Posted May 3, 2017 Be careful what you ask for. More armor means less overpens Thin armor is often an asset and not a liability. This doesn't apply to the Neptune. For the tier 5 and lower french cruisers most definitely - AP just straight up overpens you and it actually makes sense to sail around broadside on to encourage overpens (but beware getting citadeled by HE! :o) The Neptune is so fragile because it is a giant floating citadel, not just because it doesn't have armour. I'm struggling with the Neptune myself having only just having unlocked her, but the extreme fragility is an intentional and part of her balance. Its a high skill floor ship but can really shine in the right hands and circumstances. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SICK] Exocet6951 Weekend Tester 5,151 posts 11,809 battles Report post #19 Posted May 3, 2017 Only need a 10 point one to rock so it doesn't take too long. Oh I'm in no rush due to WG's policy on nerfs, changes and events means I only ever grind the daily bonus. I'm still feeling the 85k xp sting from Udaloi spilt... I know right? It's the only time in any WG product where I had to grind a ship from stock twice. Full Udaloi fun Udaloi Stock Udaloi with no captain not fun Udaloi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cro_pwr Players 2,735 posts 10,310 battles Report post #20 Posted May 3, 2017 That pseudo-unicum guide to the Minotaur was hilarious indeed, with that radar and all. Its all fun and everything, untill you die to an Edinburgh because he radared you (I was literary watching around the map what the heck could have radared me ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[__] Kais_S012 Beta Tester 742 posts 1,694 battles Report post #21 Posted May 3, 2017 (edited) It's a light cruiser it's not supposed to have armor.....I dare you to play emile bertin a cruiser's 'heavy' or 'light' status comes from the size of its guns not how much armour it has. (as an example the Mogami class is classed as both a light and a heavy cruiser due to its 15.5cm guns at production and its 20.3cm installed during the 1937 refit of the class) overall looking at the stats, the Neptune seems to be doing fine. aside from personal preferences the line up from Tier VI onwards is pretty potent Edited May 3, 2017 by Mymeara Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] SV_Kompresor Beta Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 5,868 posts Report post #22 Posted May 3, 2017 a cruiser's 'heavy' or 'light' status comes from the size of its guns not how much armour it has. (as an example the Mogami class is classed as both a light and a heavy cruiser due to its 15.5cm guns at production and its 20.3cm installed during the 1937 refit of the class) overall looking at the stats, the Neptune seems to be doing fine. aside from personal preferences the line up from Tier VI onwards is pretty potent Yes, but in most cases heavy cruisers have more armor....at least in wows Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Trainspite Supertester, Players, Sailing Hamster 1,920 posts 4,621 battles Report post #23 Posted May 3, 2017 It's a light cruiser it's not supposed to have armor.....I dare you to play emile bertin A light cruiser is determined only by it's guns. Armour doesn't come into it. The Russian CLs have a proper armour model, yet WG did not give the same to the RN CLs. Bow/Stern armour, raised citadel etc. etc. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] SV_Kompresor Beta Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 5,868 posts Report post #24 Posted May 3, 2017 A light cruiser is determined only by it's guns. Armour doesn't come into it. The Russian CLs have a proper armour model, yet WG did not give the same to the RN CLs. Bow/Stern armour, raised citadel etc. etc. I have yet to see a CL with a distinctly better armor than a same tier CA in wows Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sparviero142 Players 248 posts 6,452 battles Report post #25 Posted May 3, 2017 yes pls give to neptune more armour so i can easly do penetration damage and not just Overpen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites