The amount of destroyers in each batlle

[Dave_Lister]

I'm sure this has been covered before. I search for specific topic and found none.

 

The amount of times that I have played lately and found 5 x destroyers on each team seems to be more than the past. To be honest it sort of ruins the battle as it becomes dodge the torpedo.

 

Now i understand that destroyers have a place in the game, but the balance needs to be tweaked. So if you have 5 x destroyers, than give 5 x Cruisers to support. NOT 5 x destroyers, 2 x Cruisers and 5 x BBs to play dodge to torp. It's all but impossible to follow roles of the ship, as it's not the BB role to try and chase destroyers. In tier 9 & 10 the distances that torpedo's can travel even make that's impossible.

 

Maybe the limit should be cut to three per battle, which would make it more tactical, rather than torpedo spam.

 

Just an observation rather than a whine. Just think it makes for better game play.

 

[AnuSuaraj]

IT'S TOO DAMN HIGH!

[LastButterfly]

In average I observe more DDs in tier 6~7 but less DDs than BBs in tier 8~10. Yeah, still 4 to 5 dds per game, but also 4 to 5 BBs.

The problem is neither DDs nor BBs tho. It's WG making cruisers unappealing. Limiting the number of DDs or BBs per game will just make the queue time to find a game insanely longer in BB and DD and will cause more whine because people HATE waiting.

 

WG needs to advertise, diversifiate and reward more cruisers and cruiser players. And eventually try to revive carriers as a backup plan. That's the solution.

 

 

They won't do it tho.

[Dave_Lister]

 

They won't do it tho.

 

Agreed, It's all about earning money. All mmorpg games are the same. Introduce New stuff way before you fix the old problems, eventually you lose your player base.

[AgarwaenME]

I'm sure this has been covered before. I search for specific topic and found none.

 

The amount of times that I have played lately and found 5 x destroyers on each team seems to be more than the past. To be honest it sort of ruins the battle as it becomes dodge the torpedo.

 

Now i understand that destroyers have a place in the game, but the balance needs to be tweaked. So if you have 5 x destroyers, than give 5 x Cruisers to support. NOT 5 x destroyers, 2 x Cruisers and 5 x BBs to play dodge to torp. It's all but impossible to follow roles of the ship, as it's not the BB role to try and chase destroyers. In tier 9 & 10 the distances that torpedo's can travel even make that's impossible.

 

Maybe the limit should be cut to three per battle, which would make it more tactical, rather than torpedo spam.

 

Just an observation rather than a whine. Just think it makes for better game play.

 

 

Do you know what's better than personal observation?

 

Actual facts

 

And actual facts tells us your "observations" are utters hogwash.

 

/This is beside how a large amount of DDs aren't even using torps as main armament.

 

//Ie, this is just another generic BBaby whine

 

///Someone post BBaby bingo please?

[Khul]

 

 

Do you know what's better than personal observation?

 

Actual facts

 

And actual facts tells us your "observations" are utters hogwash.

 

/This is beside how a large amount of DDs aren't even using torps as main armament.

 

//Ie, this is just another generic BBaby whine

 

///Someone post BBaby bingo please?

 

[ColonelPete]

I'm sure this has been covered before. I search for specific topic and found none.

 

The amount of times that I have played lately and found 5 x destroyers on each team seems to be more than the past. To be honest it sort of ruins the battle as it becomes dodge the torpedo.

 

Now i understand that destroyers have a place in the game, but the balance needs to be tweaked. So if you have 5 x destroyers, than give 5 x Cruisers to support. NOT 5 x destroyers, 2 x Cruisers and 5 x BBs to play dodge to torp. It's all but impossible to follow roles of the ship, as it's not the BB role to try and chase destroyers. In tier 9 & 10 the distances that torpedo's can travel even make that's impossible.

 

Maybe the limit should be cut to three per battle, which would make it more tactical, rather than torpedo spam.

 

Just an observation rather than a whine. Just think it makes for better game play.

 

 

If you cannot find existing topics, it is not surprising you cannot find a way to play your BB. Get more aware of your surroundings.

Start reading guides how to play BBs. Then inform yourself about the statistics of the game (yes, high tier there are more BBs and Cruisers than DDs).

[MoveZig]

As a torpboat main, I support this. No one likes facing DDs, not even other DDs. If you're a torpboat you're constantly in fear of being run down by some Kiev. If you're a gunboat the first few minutes of Domination can be miserable. a 2 DD limit per side would be welcome.

[Tyrendian89]

As a torpboat main, I support this. No one likes facing DDs, not even other DDs. If you're a torpboat you're constantly in fear of being run down by some Kiev. If you're a gunboat the first few minutes of Domination can be miserable. a 2 DD limit per side would be welcome.

 

bah... torping the buggers when they think they're safely blazing away from inside their smoke clouds is way too fun (and gives better rewards than torping BBs as well), keep them in. Besides, wouldn't be fun if it was too easy would it?

[beercrazy]

its simple reason why so many dds are in the game

main reason is so many bbs because they are easy to play and dds are the natural enemy of bbs due to fact they kill em with them torps that bb captains complain about

why no counter to the dds I hear you say but wait there is sir its the cruiser but these are hard as heck to play now due to citadel party every time a bb sees em

 

you could also look at it as its more realistic to have lots of dds per game and less bbs because in "real life" more dds than anything where built and compared to bbs it should probably per game be 1cv, 2bb, 3 cruisers and 6dds but that would put of the bb players so wont happen

ps I saw other day a post that said the average ships played at tier 8 has bb population at 48% and when we have 4 classes to chose from its not good now is it

[Capra76]

https://eu.warships.today/vehicles (filter for last 1 or 2 weeks, sort by battle number and select the tier).

 

More BB than DD at every tier, but why let facts get in the way of a good whine?

[RenamedUser_92906789]

Im gonna throw my 5c ...

I am a DD player, and I have also noticed recent increase of DD population. Usually I just think "yea its some mission for sure", because I usually just ignore the missions.

Plus I am happy when I see lots of BBs in game .... you know ... they are the "paper of my scissors".

 

But recently (like a week or two) I noticed that teams in my games have the average of:

 

3 BBs

4 CLs

5 DDs

 

It used to be:

 

6 BBs

3 CLs

3 DDs

 

Donno .. MM is a weird mysterious thing ... so each of us might have different picture and experience. 

 

 

[Drunken_Jedi]

To be honest, and I can understand why some people have an issue with having so many stealthy ships about. But honestly, let's look at this from a RL standpoint DD's were always the most numerous component of any fleet with CA/CL and finally BB/CV's being very few in number. Honestly if anything we need to reduce the number of BB's, not by much. I'm happy to see up to four per team, however having five is just one too many. It means that in a team of twelve people you can have 1/2 CV, 3/4 BB and the rest of the slots taken by the CA/CL and DD's. You have to remember that the torpedo DD's aren't really that popular tuesdays compared to the Ru gunboat DD's. They're also really squish it only takes a few salvos to take one out. 

[Hedgehog1963]

I'm sure this has been covered before. I search for specific topic and found none.

 

The amount of times that I have played lately and found 5 x destroyers on each team seems to be more than the past. To be honest it sort of ruins the battle as it becomes dodge the torpedo.

 

Now i understand that destroyers have a place in the game, but the balance needs to be tweaked. So if you have 5 x destroyers, than give 5 x Cruisers to support. NOT 5 x destroyers, 2 x Cruisers and 5 x BBs to play dodge to torp. It's all but impossible to follow roles of the ship, as it's not the BB role to try and chase destroyers. In tier 9 & 10 the distances that torpedo's can travel even make that's impossible.

 

Maybe the limit should be cut to three per battle, which would make it more tactical, rather than torpedo spam.

 

 

 

 

[Dave_Lister]

So as usual, a couple of low IQ trolls, making useless assumptions and being small minded rather than having a discussion.

 

AgarwaenME,you obviously can't think of anything constructive to say. How dull.

 

If you cannot find existing topics, it is not surprising you cannot find a way to play your BB. Get more aware of your surroundings.

Start reading guides how to play BBs. Then inform yourself about the statistics of the game (yes, high tier there are more BBs and Cruisers than DDs).

 

And is that it? That's the extent of your comment? To assume that I cannot play? How narrow minded.

 

To the rest thank you for the replies.

[Z_OnkelE]

Actually today I have had several games with only 1 v 2, 2 v 2 or 3 v 2 and thus less than total of 5 DDs in the whole battle. Apparently you just got into the wrong ones (from your point of view).

 

Why don't you get yourself one of those small boats and play them more regularly?! They promise definitely more action than the "I stand here with my steel brick and shoot" kind of fight with all these 5 v 5 or 6 v 6 BB battles... Maybe you will be entertained for a longer period of time then, too.

[Dave_Lister]

Actually today I have had several games with only 1 v 2, 2 v 2 or 3 v 2 and thus less than total of 5 DDs in the whole battle. Apparently you just got into the wrong ones (from your point of view).

 

Why don't you get yourself one of those small boats and play them more regularly?! They promise definitely more action than the "I stand here with my steel brick and shoot" kind of fight with all these 5 v 5 or 6 v 6 BB battles... Maybe you will be entertained for a longer period of time then, too.

 

Yeah today I have had 1 battle out of 8 with 5 DDs. I don't mind DDs, It's a balance thing. So if there are 4 x DDs in the game there should be the equal amount of counter measures i.e Cruisers.

 

That's the point I was trying to make and discuss.

 

I mainly play cruisers and enjoy the hunt. I'm entertained.

 

Thanks for constructive reply.

[rvfharrier]

Five DDs per side is rare but it does happen and it's a bit much, a limit of four would be good.

 

However, I don't understand why DD matchmaking isn't mirrored... an imbalance in DD numbers (occasionally even ridiculous instances where one team gets a destroyer and the other doesn't) can be a huge advantage/disadvantage.

[Pivke]

 

Yeah today I have had 1 battle out of 8 with 5 DDs. I don't mind DDs, It's a balance thing. So if there are 4 x DDs in the game there should be the equal amount of counter measures i.e Cruisers.

thats the f**king problem right there Sherlock!

nobody likes to play cruisers any more. because they are just useless, free xp pinatas, one shoot wonders.

most of the cruiser people are switching to a playable class. either a battleship or if they like a faster paced gameplay, to a destroyer.

increased destroyer population is a direct result of battleships dominance and cruisers being useless and not enjoyable to play.

[fallenkezef]

I'm sure this has been covered before. I search for specific topic and found none.

 

The amount of times that I have played lately and found 5 x destroyers on each team seems to be more than the past. To be honest it sort of ruins the battle as it becomes dodge the torpedo.

 

Now i understand that destroyers have a place in the game, but the balance needs to be tweaked. So if you have 5 x destroyers, than give 5 x Cruisers to support. NOT 5 x destroyers, 2 x Cruisers and 5 x BBs to play dodge to torp. It's all but impossible to follow roles of the ship, as it's not the BB role to try and chase destroyers. In tier 9 & 10 the distances that torpedo's can travel even make that's impossible.

 

Maybe the limit should be cut to three per battle, which would make it more tactical, rather than torpedo spam.

 

Just an observation rather than a whine. Just think it makes for better game play.

 

 

Cap at 3 DDs and 3 BBs, that should sort things out

[fallenkezef]

thats the f**king problem right there Sherlock!

nobody likes to play cruisers any more. because they are just useless, free xp pinatas, one shoot wonders.

most of the cruiser people are switching to a playable class. either a battleship or if they like a faster paced gameplay, to a destroyer.

increased destroyer population is a direct result of battleships dominance and cruisers being useless and not enjoyable to play.

 

This is one of the things I like about the Brits, it's a cruiser line that plays like a DD line

[Skurfa]

It'me me you all see, running around in the lightning the Tashkent is.... damn it's fast, so fast you think there are multiple of'em.... And damn I suck in it

 

[AgarwaenME]

 

AgarwaenME,you obviously can't think of anything constructive to say. How dull.

 

 

I refer to facts while you think your "observations" counts more than real numbers, and you call others unconstructive.. you're just digging your whole even deeper.

 

Calling people who have an actual clue about how the game really is "low IQ" isn't helping your case either.

[ColonelPete]

So as usual, a couple of low IQ trolls, making useless assumptions and being small minded rather than having a discussion.

 

AgarwaenME,you obviously can't think of anything constructive to say. How dull.

 

And is that it? That's the extent of your comment? To assume that I cannot play? How narrow minded.

 

To the rest thank you for the replies.

 

That is the usual explanation for such topics.

If you cannot find your way around the forum, how are you supposed to find a safe way around a battle?

 

And yes, as I assumed correctly, you are a bad player who skipped a lot of tiers in the BB lines to get to high tier without enough game experience.

[Lin3]

I'm sure this has been covered before. I search for specific topic and found none.

 

The amount of times that I have played lately and found 5 x destroyers on each team seems to be more than the past. To be honest it sort of ruins the battle as it becomes dodge the torpedo.

 

Now i understand that destroyers have a place in the game, but the balance needs to be tweaked. So if you have 5 x destroyers, than give 5 x Cruisers to support. NOT 5 x destroyers, 2 x Cruisers and 5 x BBs to play dodge to torp. It's all but impossible to follow roles of the ship, as it's not the BB role to try and chase destroyers. In tier 9 & 10 the distances that torpedo's can travel even make that's impossible.

 

Maybe the limit should be cut to three per battle, which would make it more tactical, rather than torpedo spam.

 

Just an observation rather than a whine. Just think it makes for better game play.

 

 

When playing destroyer hunters like the Omaha, Mogami (new 155 mm version), New Orleans, Chapayev I'm quite happy to see 5 DD's in the enemy team.

 

My job then becomes one of pest eradication. Someone's got to keep the population of these blighters down. The pesky things breed like rabbits.