German Aircraft Carrier Graf Zeppelin

[TheGreatandMightlyDave]

As world of warships has ships in that were designed but never actually built such as the Montana I don't think it would be a far stretch to have a premium German Aircraft carrier that was actually 70% completed in really life be in the game.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_aircraft_carrier_Graf_Zeppelin

 

Just an idea for the future

[anonym_XGuN6pHmfiJ9]

As world of warships has ships in that were designed but never actually built such as the Montana I don't think it would be a far stretch to have a premium German Aircraft carrier that was actually 70% completed in really life be in the game.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_aircraft_carrier_Graf_Zeppelin

 

Just an idea for the future

 

 

WG already that they will do this ship in 2017. Probably near completion.

[El2aZeR]

WG already that they will do this ship in 2017. Probably near completion.

 

Actually they have stated that no new CVs were supposed to come out before the rework, but Kaga kinda disproves that unless they ship it with the rework (which I believe is highly unlikely).

Alternatively WG could've just meant new nations/lines.

[fallenkezef]

What where they planning to fly off her? ME109s seem very ill suited to carrier ops

[anonym_XGuN6pHmfiJ9]

Redditor nps found this interesting article:

 

Edit: This article seems to be a little bit older.

 

Announces for this year:

• Russian DDs (including Smeliy, Neustrashimiy and Project 56) will get some new weapon type
• New cruiser and battleship trees for France
• New Pan-Asian tree with RU, US and Japanese ships

Balance:

• Bismarck hydro nerf (done)
• No nerf for Minotaur because majority of players are only getting VII
• BBs are above 40%, so they want to make them less universal, which might fix long high tier battles

Variants for clan development:

1. Playing actively will provide personal and clan bonuses
2. Continuous clan battles or tournaments, similiar to team battles
3. Global map (not for this year)

Also

• Raid-like PvE with different difficulty levels
• Screenshot of BB with golden fist

CVs:

• Starcraft-like mouse controls
• Removal of alt-attacks on 4-5 level CVs, because sealcubbing is too common

New premiums:

• Graf Zeppelin
• Roma VIII Italian BB
• But VIII BB Alabama first

Removal of open-water stealth firing

Introduction of inventory (done)

Bastions nerf, no plans for removal (changed their plans apparently)

 

 

In the thread 'Some interesting info from RU'  they say otherwise. The Graf Zepelin is coming. And it's info from Februari. So this ship must be +/- finished if they say it's coming.And now we are 2 1/2 months later....

[Gnirf]

What where they planning to fly off her? ME109s seem very ill suited to carrier ops

 

On the contrary - Me109 and Junkers Ju 87 were planned to operate from the carrier

[fallenkezef]

 

On the contrary - Me109 and Junkers Ju 87 were planned to operate from the carrier

I guess if you coukd get a Spitfire on a carrier you could do a 109. Stukas make sense, any torpedo bomber concepts?

 

[El2aZeR]

In the thread 'Some interesting info from RU'  they say otherwise. The Graf Zepelin is coming. And it's info from Februari. So this ship must be +/- finished if they say it's coming.And now we are 2 1/2 months later....

 

It is well known that she's in the works, but it'll be with or after the rework afaik.

[Elenortirion]

 

Actually they have stated that no new CVs were supposed to come out before the rework, but Kaga kinda disproves that unless they ship it with the rework (which I believe is highly unlikely).

Alternatively WG could've just meant new nations/lines.

 

as far as I am aware, the "rework" they've been talking about was "CV GUI rework" which for the moment being seems to be that alternative CV controls......

 

which would mean that according to their schedule they are free to push out as much premium CVs as they want to.....

[Pivke]

 

On the contrary - Me109 and Junkers Ju 87 were planned to operate from the carrier

 

not the FW 190 fighters? they seem more nimble and suitable for aircraft carriers

[Mangrey]

What where they planning to fly off her? ME109s seem very ill suited to carrier ops

 

the germans made a Me 109 T(Treager)as in carrier version. it was use in Norway and had a smaller wingspan then the normal 109 version

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_Bf_109_variants#Bf_109T

 

mang 

[Mangrey]

 

not the FW 190 fighters? they seem more nimble and suitable for aircraft carriers

 

the project Graf Zeppelin was cancelled befor the FW190s 

 

mang

[El2aZeR]

as far as I am aware, the "rework" they've been talking about was "CV GUI rework" which for the moment being seems to be that alternative CV controls......

 

Pretty sure that they've stated that this isn't the rework. Too lazy to dig up the Q&A about it, tho.

[puxflacet]

 

not the FW 190 fighters? they seem more nimble and suitable for aircraft carriers

 

fw 190 nimble?

[Elenortirion]

 

Pretty sure that they've stated that this isn't the rework. Too lazy to dig up the Q&A about it, tho.

 

if they did, then this information didn't came even remotely close to that forum xD

[Peffers]

I believe it was meant to have FW190 variants, the Me109 undercarriage being too fragile.  Personally, as long as it is released 70% complete.

 

 

[TheCinC]

Pretty sure she is coming, but would much rather see HMS Ark Royal first.

I don't play carriers much, so not sure if I would buy her, as she is both unhistorical (never completed) and a CV, so probably not worth the investment.

But this is one of the few never completed ships that I'd be interested in seeing, like the Sovetsky Soyuz class, and the Montana class which is already in the game.

I don't think a single carrier would have mattered much, or would have lasted long, but the prospect of such a different direction for the Kriegsmarine, is an interesting what-if.

[Kaaruzo]

You guys do know, there never was a plane called "Me109"?

 

It´s name is "Bf109".

[ShinGetsu]

You guys do know, there never was a plane called "Me109"?

 

It´s name is "Bf109".

 

^ This. Don't trigger my inner warbird fanboy.

 

Also, as for german planes for CV, FW190 doesn't seems very suited for naval operation. They're heavy plane with heavy armament. Ju87 is also somewhat very big and slow, though it could work. I'd think about Me410 maybe, and Bf109 for fighters.

[tajj7]

Me is short for Messerschmitt, so Me 109 is just a shortening for Messerchmitt Bf 109. 

 

Me109 is pretty common,  for example RAF tests on captured 109s called them 'Me 109s' -

 

 

Anyway, as far as I have read 109s were supposed to be the fighters on the Graf Zeppelin along with converted Ju 87s as the dive bombers.

 

Wiki says originally it was planned to have Fieseler Fi 167 torp bombers (essentially German Swordfish torp bombers) but removed that option all together and were just planning to have lots of dive bombers.

 

Which would be interesting in WOWs terms if they had a carrier with no torp bombers.

 

I believe some modified FW-190s could carry torpedoes as FW-190s tended to be used as dive bombers later in the war. FW-190 F-8/U3 versions, I'd put a picture here but last time I did that I got a forum ban because obviously WW2 German planes have a certain symbol on them.

 

So they could use that as a torp bomber, whether a 190 could take off from a carrier is a different matter, it had a pretty high win loading so had a relatively high stall speed I believe which would make landing/taking of from an aircraft carrier fairly tricky. Whereas the Spitfire had fairly big wings so adapted pretty well to being a carrier plane once they strengthened the fuselage. 

 

[Kaaruzo]

Me is short for Messerschmitt, so Me 109 is just a shortening for Messerchmitt Bf 109. 

 

Me109 is pretty common,  for example RAF tests on captured 109s called them 'Me 109s'

 

Thank you, but i know what "Me" stands for. But this is not the offical name of this plane.

 

 The name given to this plane by the Reichsluftfahrsministerium (Ministry of Aviation) was "Bf 109".

[1MajorKoenig]

I guess if you coukd get a Spitfire on a carrier you could do a 109. Stukas make sense, any torpedo bomber concepts?

 

 

The only torp bomber planned was the Fi 167 biplane. The plan was dropped later on and the attack role taken over fully by the carrier ops modified Stuka.

[tajj7]

 

Thank you, but i know what "Me" stands for. But this is not the offical name of this plane.

 

 The name given to this plane by the Reichsluftfahrsministerium (Ministry of Aviation) was "Bf 109".

 

Yeh and Sherman 'Jumbos' were never officially called Jumbos, and M60 'Pattons' were never officially named 'Pattons' but these were the common names of those tanks, just like the Me 109 was known as the Me 109 so it's a perfectly acceptable term as it's the name of the aircraft shortened.

 

[Kaaruzo]

Yeah and the MG42 was often called Hitlers Buzsaw and the MP40 Schmeisser by the allies.

 

So just because they called it wrong, we should adopt this? There is an offical name for this plane, and there is no big deal in calling it so.

[robihr]

 

Actually they have stated that no new CVs were supposed to come out before the rework, but Kaga kinda disproves that unless they ship it with the rework (which I believe is highly unlikely).

Alternatively WG could've just meant new nations/lines.

 

but they "reworked" the CV.. now you can click with right mouse button..