MM Will not allow a win Duca d'Aosta

[Franken_Furter]

 

Well, decided to take out the Duca d'Aosta as I see a 'Win a Battle' Boost on my screen.

 

Awesome eh! Lets hope to have a balanced game.

 

But NOT a chance looking at the player stats (my ship had but one captain point and about 5 games).

 

Still I play my socks off for a loss.

 

What is the point of this rubbish match making? Its not fun to play in matches like this at all.

[IamTroublemaker]

63k damage isn't that special so I do not see your point 
I've had 250k-300k damage defeats more often than wins, a few days ago a mate had a 310k damage loss

It's just random and heavily "teammate" dependable, if you get 11 monkeys (no insults for monkeys intended) in your team no matter what you do you aren't gonna win.

 

Anyways, as I said, doing 63k damage in a T6 game is good, but not a game changer, as seen by the XP at the end of the game (yes you were top but not too far away from others) and everybody gets games like that on a daily basis

[Skyllon]

Take a break. Try some time later. Maybe you've just hit 'monkey hour' as Troublemaker has pointed.

Sooner or later perseverance is rewarded.

[Franken_Furter]

63k damage isn't that special so I do not see your point 

I've had 250k-300k damage defeats more often than wins, a few days ago a mate had a 310k damage loss

 

It's just random and heavily "teammate" dependable, if you get 11 monkeys (no insults for monkeys intended) in your team no matter what you do you aren't gonna win.

 

Anyways, as I said, doing 63k damage in a T6 game is good, but not a game changer, as seen by the XP at the end of the game (yes you were top but not too far away from others) and everybody gets games like that on a daily basis

Congratulations on your high scores, I am sure you get those on a regular basis with a one point captain with a premium tier 6 ship fresh out the dock in a random game with no division. Indeed you have missed the point reference to the match making <not> the damage done (which was not mentioned).

 

[Mechthart]

Hmm, as I was part of that match...

What exactly would you prefer? Introduction of skill based MM? I mean, if Random is Random you will always get those matches from time to time... Everybody hates it when (despite their best and pristinely competent efforts) they just can't get a victory out of a match because the other flank just collapses within 3 minutes...

 

Please specify, would you want every match balanced according to player stats?

 

Greetings, Mechthart

[Hedgehog1963]

People blaming MM for losing is getting old...

[Shirakami_Kon]

I love how last image seems to show that that was his first battle with the ship.

 

"Can't win first battle, can't win any battle with the ship. OMG WG what is this?". New rant topic. GG.

 

Also that guy with the 800+ battles with Cleveland made me laugh. Some people really love their ships. 

[OttoZander]

People blaming MM for losing is getting old...

 

It is not just a joke that everybody throws around, in many cases it is true. MM is set to balance your WR. I have taken note of many matches (took screenshots and inspected every player) after enjoying many wins in a row, as an example, one match had the enemy team blessed with 1 super unicorn, 3 regular unicorns, and the rest were not noteworthy (51-55% WR), now keep in mind none of those unicorns were in a division, just randoms. As for my team I was the only one with around 5000 battles under the belt, and had somewhat of a clue of what I am doing, the second best had a 49% WR and 1800+ battles, and you don't want to hear about the rest. Laugh at stats all you want, but they do give an indication of what is going to happen. In many cases, it is truly the match-maker working against you. MM giveth, MM taketh it away I suppose. 

[Namuras]

The Ship is fine... in line with other T6.

 

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[FluffyCheeks]

I love how last image seems to show that that was his first battle with the ship.

 

"Can't win first battle, can't win any battle with the ship. OMG WG what is this?". New rant topic. GG.

 

Also that guy with the 800+ battles with Cleveland made me laugh. Some people really love their ships. 

 

Help me out with this please? So first battle for the ship and it's a loss? But can someone help me out with the colour coding on that picture what does deep red mean? As the Da Costa (latte please) player appears to be deep red, is that for the ship or overall? Just interested thats all.

[Hedgehog1963]

 

It is not just a joke that everybody throws around, in many cases it is true. MM is set to balance your WR. I have taken note of many matches (took screenshots and inspected every player) after enjoying many wins in a row, as an example, one match had the enemy team blessed with 1 super unicorn, 3 regular unicorns, and the rest were not noteworthy (51-55% WR), now keep in mind none of those unicorns were in a division, just randoms. As for my team I was the only one with around 5000 battles under the belt, and had somewhat of a clue of what I am doing, the second best had a 49% WR and 1800+ battles, and you don't want to hear about the rest. Laugh at stats all you want, but they do give an indication of what is going to happen. In many cases, it is truly the match-maker working against you. MM giveth, MM taketh it away I suppose. 

 

Point being - MM is the same for everyone.

[Jethro_Grey]

The Duca not winning a game? WG finally went full historical accuracy mode, eh? ^^

 

On a more serious sidenote, the ship is fine and does very good in equal tier games and surprisingly well when bottom tier.

[Shirakami_Kon]

 

Help me out with this please? So first battle for the ship and it's a loss? But can someone help me out with the colour coding on that picture what does deep red mean? As the Da Costa (latte please) player appears to be deep red, is that for the ship or overall? Just interested thats all.

 

Colors show how's that result in that color compared to the average. Colors change from deep red (very bad), red, orange, yellow, green (average), deep green, blue, purple and deep purple (super unicum or unicorn depending on your preference). The Duca d'Aosta player has it's stats in red, keep in mind that the stats in the image are only for the specific ship, not the player overall and they are red because of being the first battle with the Duca d'Aosta so there's no previous data to compare with from that player with that ship.

[beercrazy]

ive had 6 battles and 6 wins in her so cant complain but I must admit I am finding her a little bit of a lets kill it magnet for the enemy team so haven't done so well in her

ship is lovely to play and though the captain is green as grass I can only see the duca feeling even better once I have concealment

 

[EdiJo]

63k damage isn't that special so I do not see your point 

I've had 250k-300k damage defeats more often than wins, a few days ago a mate had a 310k damage loss

 

It's just random and heavily "teammate" dependable, if you get 11 monkeys (no insults for monkeys intended) in your team no matter what you do you aren't gonna win.

 

Anyways, as I said, doing 63k damage in a T6 game is good, but not a game changer, as seen by the XP at the end of the game (yes you were top but not too far away from others) and everybody gets games like that on a daily basis

 

Even you being super-purple-unicum have solo avg dmg in all your T6 cruisers well below 60k - with most closer to 40-50k.

I would say that in T6 cruiser 63k game is a VERY good game.

Especially in the current meta, when you meet lots of BB, also in T6 carriers are clubbing now, and very often you get T8 matchmaking.

Especially in a lost game, when you are typically without much support because your potato "team mates" die like flies around you.

 

I had such a frustrating streak last weekend, when I could not get my daily win in a Belfast, despite having calibers, confederates, top scores and such. 5 losses in a row, at 80-110k damage. 

 

[rvfharrier]

As has been pointed out, 64k damage is a good game but absolutely nothing special which is inherently deserving of a win. You performed well but not well enough to win, simple as that. It happens.

 

The sooner you get out of the 'oh woe is me' rigged MM conspiracy theory the sooner you can take personal responsibility for your performance, improve your game and start winning more. I've been there myself back when I played WoT, so I understand, but it's a problem with your mentality and not the game which you need to overcome.

[eliastion]

It is not just a joke that everybody throws around, in many cases it is true. MM is set to balance your WR. I have taken note of many matches (took screenshots and inspected every player) after enjoying many wins in a row, as an example, one match had the enemy team blessed with 1 super unicorn, 3 regular unicorns, and the rest were not noteworthy (51-55% WR), now keep in mind none of those unicorns were in a division, just randoms.

 

Wait. So MM "tries to balance your WR" is your conclusion because, after a streak of victories, you happened to draw the short stick in the end? Now that's pretty funny... I take it you did also meticulously check all these "many wins in a row" to make sure if the MM wasn't actually conspiring in at least a couple of them to make you win, right?  

[lameoll]

its still a cruiser tho cruisers are hard to carry with.

even tho this ship is awesome :X 

[OttoZander]

 

Point being - MM is the same for everyone.

 

Yes! Never claimed otherwise, just clarifying to the other chap that sometimes that is the case, rather than "did not carry hard enough". 

[OttoZander]

 

Wait. So MM "tries to balance your WR" is your conclusion because, after a streak of victories, you happened to draw the short stick in the end? Now that's pretty funny... I take it you did also meticulously check all these "many wins in a row" to make sure if the MM wasn't actually conspiring in at least a couple of them to make you win, right?  

 

Actually I did, yes, in a few certain cases where our team steam-rolled the other without even losing a single ship and such. Judging by the sarcasm you are taking this the wrong way, it is just a clarification of that it does this instead of a much fairer 50/50.

[eliastion]

 

Actually I did, yes, in a few certain cases where our team steam-rolled the other without even losing a single ship and such. Judging by the sarcasm you are taking this the wrong way, it is just a clarification of that it does this instead of a much fairer 50/50.

 

My sarcasm is a natural reaction to tinfoil theories about MM actively trying to break your winning streaks by putting you against super-players while the same can be explained just as well by it simply not caring for player skill whatsoever. Which is, incidentally, what MM does according to WG.

In fact, what you believe to be "fairer" (that is, if I understood you correctly: if MM tried to put unicum players on opposing teams) - now THAT would be an attempt to keep people's winrate at 50%. If anything, teams being often highly unbalanced in terms of skill strongly suggests that the MM is ultimately fair without any hidden algorithms to make sure that good players get good opponents and crappy teammates - which is what you seem to believe to be "fairer" (unless I misunderstood what you meant).

[22cm]

63k damage isn't that special so I do not see your point 

I've had 250k-300k damage defeats more often than wins, a few days ago a mate had a 310k damage loss

 

It's just random and heavily "teammate" dependable, if you get 11 monkeys (no insults for monkeys intended) in your team no matter what you do you aren't gonna win.

 

Anyways, as I said, doing 63k damage in a T6 game is good, but not a game changer, as seen by the XP at the end of the game (yes you were top but not too far away from others) and everybody gets games like that on a daily basis

 

Lol, dude, it s a tier 6 cruiser mostly used as a filler in tier 7-8 games. If you get 250-300k games in that you re God.

MM sucks for tier 6...

[The_Great_SCH]

Why do people even want to win in this game? Just play for fun. Kappa.  Bought the Dunkek, 5 games, 20% WR, 875 WTR. Maybe you just have to get used to the ship to perform better? i went from 15k dmg in a game to 90+ k dmg and still lost.

[beercrazy]

Why do people even want to win in this game? Just play for fun. Kappa.  Bought the Dunkek, 5 games, 20% WR, 875 WTR. Maybe you just have to get used to the ship to perform better? i went from 15k dmg in a game to 90+ k dmg and still lost.

 

Dunkirk is one of them ships that needs your team to actually attack and she performs fantastic then but if your team is running then the ship suffers from no back guns and having to turn a lot to bring her main guns to target or you do the reverse trick but either way its not the best play for her

[The_Great_SCH]

 

Dunkirk is one of them ships that needs your team to actually attack and she performs fantastic then but if your team is running then the ship suffers from no back guns and having to turn a lot to bring her main guns to target or you do the reverse trick but either way its not the best play for her

 

She did well last night in a 1 vs 4 situation (2x Dunk, 1 Nagato and 1 Bayern) problem was the CV who liked to ride me. She is a fat HE spammer. Lul.