Teamkiller madness

[anonym_qDNKt18wHeYh]

So I'm playing a game tonight, ordinary tier 10

There's a battleship who's pink, I'm in an akizuki

 

The battleship at point blank range unloads all his guns into me and destroys both my torpedo tubes. I end up at about 15% health from a single volley.

 

So I return fire and set him on fire.

Now I'm marked as a teamkiller for 8 games.

 

How is this system even remotely fair? If someone who's already marked as a teamkiller destroys most of my armor and both my torpedo tubes, effectively putting me out of the game, do I get marked for EIGHT GAMES just because I defended myself?

[Peterluk]

I think best defense is doing nothing, even if natural instinct tells you to shoot and possibly kill.... :-)

[hgbn_dk]

Suspect is was a trap.... Don't return fire it only hurts yourself.. Not worth it at all

[Lukewehr]

Ahem i have to call a bs on this one dear OP, so the battleship was pink unloaded on you and you are left with 15% of your health.

You see if he was pink unloading on you would have had the only result of the damage being  mirrored and multiplied on himself with the result of chopping off his health while you would have suffered a minor damage.

The system works like a charm, what doesnt work is either your attention for details or your love for fantasy.

[Zemeritt]

So I'm playing a game tonight, ordinary tier 10

There's a battleship who's pink, I'm in an akizuki

 

The battleship at point blank range unloads all his guns into me and destroys both my torpedo tubes. I end up at about 15% health from a single volley.

 

So I return fire and set him on fire.

Now I'm marked as a teamkiller for 8 games.

 

How is this system even remotely fair? If someone who's already marked as a teamkiller destroys most of my armor and both my torpedo tubes, effectively putting me out of the game, do I get marked for EIGHT GAMES just because I defended myself?

 

Not sure if a troll or not but an Akizuki with 2! torpedo tubes is something new to me

[bushwacker001]

Ahem i have to call a bs on this one dear OP, so the battleship was pink unloaded on you and you are left with 15% of your health.

You see if he was pink unloading on you would have had the only result of the damage being  mirrored and multiplied on himself with the result of chopping off his health while you would have suffered a minor damage.

The system works like a charm, what doesnt work is either your attention for details or your love for fantasy.

 

OP is in a DD so losing 85% of his health would be bugger all mirrored damage on a BB.

[Prospect_b]

Ahem i have to call a bs on this one dear OP, so the battleship was pink unloaded on you and you are left with 15% of your health.

You see if he was pink unloading on you would have had the only result of the damage being  mirrored and multiplied on himself with the result of chopping off his health while you would have suffered a minor damage.

The system works like a charm, what doesnt work is either your attention for details or your love for fantasy.

 

Afaik, that's not true either. First you go pink, and then you have to do another amount of damage before the "mirrorsystem" activates.

 

edit: by the way, next time just unleash all your torps in him (when repaired), you"ll also be pink but at least he'll be dead

[Lukewehr]

Hi mr Pzycho, if you read carefully ops post you ll notice he says "There's a battleship who's pink" , now i  wasnt first in my class in English but i can assure you  that it means the BB was already pink or i wouldnt have made such a bald statement in the first place.

[Prospect_b]

Hi mr Pzycho, if you read carefully ops post you ll notice he says "There's a battleship who's pink" , now i  wasnt first in my class in English but i can assure you  that it means the BB was already pink or i wouldnt have made such a bald statement in the first place.

 

Hi mr Luke, the force isn't strong with you it seems. Because I said:

 

1 go pink

2 do some more damage (while pink)

3 mirror system kicks in

[Lukewehr]

Yeah  i got what you said but i thought we were discussing OP s argument?

He claims the BB was already pink BEFORE she shelled his ship so step one is already there, the force has never been stronger with me

[Pivke]

1 go pink

2 do some more damage (while pink)

3 mirror system kicks in

i dont know...

when i turned pink, im pretty sure the mirror damage system kicked in immediately.

[Lukewehr]

This ^^^^^^

Im sure of what im saying for direct experience due to an episode im not particularly proud of,  during a battle i notice a pink dd trying to "park" his ship as far as possible from the battle and then go afk , well i decided to go and say hello who knows maybe we can be friends.... after the first impact the dd is really angry and im sure he doesnt want to be friends cause he launches his torpedoes but with my great surprise after the first two torps he dies and i get like 70o damage or so... true story.

Lol sorry Pzycho i finally realized what you were trying to say... you mean you have to do some more damage to get the mirror damage, tsk tsk nope niet nicht.

[mrk421]

To the OP: Like others have said, the correct solution is to NOT retaliate. There is a system in place - the damage mirroring one - to take care of jerks like that. If they continue being jerks, they'll continue killing themselves off and eventually they'll stop getting a kick out of it and quit playing.

 

I recently had a funny situation regarding team damage. I was in my Scharnhorst in I think what was a T8 match on North. I was trying to hold the A flank or at least delay the enemy there, but eventually had to retreat due to overwhelming opposition. A friendly Kutuzov sails in and deploys smoke - presumably for his own benefits. I decide to borrow the smoke screen for a moment to catch a break from enemy fire. The friendly Kutuzov shoots at some enemies, but either I strayed too close to him or the other way around, at least one of his shells hits me and sets a fire (it seemed like every HE shell I caught set a fire that day). Since I had just recently used my repair, the fire stuck for the full duration. He hit me again with his next salvo, but I'm not sure whether that set a fire or not. Either way, after I'd lost some HP to the fire, the message about disciplinary action kicks in and the fire starts to DoT the Kutuzov instead of me. By the time it's finished, we're both on almost no HP and our team loses the game soon after. I dare say the game was winnable if it hadn't been for that incident, but I didn't feel too bad as the situation was kind of amusing in a strange way...

[Pekoe_Darjeeling]

I think best defense is doing nothing

 

And best way to play this game is to suicide rush and die with 0 dmg.

[Elenortirion]

 

Not sure if a troll or not but an Akizuki with 2! torpedo tubes is something new to me

 

I was just about to tell the same xD

[Peterluk]

 

And best way to play this game is to suicide rush and die with 0 dmg.

 

Sorry I dont understand what you mean, considering the argument of this 3d,  may be my poor english...or just useless sarcasm...

Oh...please next time if you quote a message, try to quote the Whole phrase I wrote, not only half. It will be appreciate and correct.

[eliastion]

 

OP is in a DD so losing 85% of his health would be bugger all mirrored damage on a BB.

 

Not true. Mirror damage would give the BB 85% damage even at 1:1 rate. It reflects % damage, not absolute numbers.

 

 

Afaik, that's not true either. First you go pink, and then you have to do another amount of damage before the "mirrorsystem" activates.

 

edit: by the way, next time just unleash all your torps in him (when repaired), you"ll also be pink but at least he'll be dead

 

Also not true. When you go pink, you get reflected damage right away.

[Prospect_b]

 

Also not true. When you go pink, you get reflected damage right away.

OK, thanks. I mentioned "afaik" - I have been trying to look up the mechanism (wiki, google search) but couldn't find anything but someone on reddit saying all he could find was a redirect to the wot teamdamage system.

[eliastion]

OK, thanks. I mentioned "afaik" - I have been trying to look up the mechanism (wiki, google search) but couldn't find anything but someone on reddit saying all he could find was a redirect to the wot teamdamage system.

 

Well, I'm no expert on the mechanics but I can speak from experience - I managed to get pink a couple times through one stupid mistake or another and, well, team collisions hurt so much more than normally when this happens.

[mtm78]

Not true. Mirror damage would give the BB 85% damage even at 1:1 rate. It reflects % damage, not absolute numbers.

 

True. 

 

Also not true. When you go pink, you get reflected damage right away.

 

Not true unless changed in last patch.

 

There is some wiggle room but it's not fixed/depends on person's (recent?) history, and WG is not giving details on it to prevent abuse ( guess they got a point right ;) ). 

 

 

[Mandyxx]

I had yesterday in my team a totally insane guy in yamato. Game starts, he starts to swear a gearing. After that he starts to shot gearing, he killed him. After that, he turned his guns on me (was with missouri) and start to shot me. He killed me and he killed himselg because of the damage.

We won, team played well.

I opened a ticket to WG with replay, i know nothing will happends.

[Aragathor]

The one thing that bugs me with this system is that if you aim at long range and a team member goes before your guns, you get no notification (like the icon for hitting islands).

Got a TK penalty in my Dunkek when a friendly Nagato decided to go right in front of me and received the full 8 rounds of HE, setting him on fire.

[bushwacker001]

 

Not true. Mirror damage would give the BB 85% damage even at 1:1 rate. It reflects % damage, not absolute numbers.

 

 

Really? I have only been on the receiving end of a TK by a pink DD once and was in a BB so didn't notice the percentage as the DD blew up after one torp hit. Mirror percentage is better than i thought then. 

[Spellfire40]

Dont a pink only damage itself when shooting at someone? Anyway don't shoot back your not defending yourself as others have pointed out. 

[13Ninjas]

Firing back at him was a mistake, it is best to just take what he does and move away, any damage he does to you will inflict on his ship too, as well as his penalty games will be increased until eventually a 7 day account ban.

It is hard to restrain from wiping him out, but doing so will put you in his league as a TKER.