[BONI] MoveZig Players 1,622 posts 20,823 battles Report post #1 Posted April 22, 2017 (edited) Look, I can kind of understand when I lay down smoke and you sail right through it even though you're two salvos away from being deleted. You're mortally afraid of torps, fine, even though I made sure no DDs are in reach. But why is there almost always someone going down the middle in Two Brothers? What sense does that make? Of course they get spotted and destroyed almost every time like fish in a barrel. Even if they don't, the start of the match is not the time for it. Even if you get through, you'll still be flanked on both sides with no one to support you. Is there some brilliant flanking maneuver in their head or are they just straight-up bots? Is it the WoWS equivalent of suicide-scouting T-50s? Edited April 22, 2017 by MoveZig Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kaelyemeth Players 4 posts 207 battles Report post #2 Posted April 22, 2017 I think it's probably because of Youtube. I'm pretty sure Jingles posted a video with someone having success with something like this... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SQEEK] Dangerhamster [SQEEK] Weekend Tester 419 posts Report post #3 Posted April 22, 2017 Its the boaty version of charging across a field on Wot, someone saw it work once so it must work again..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyllon Players 2,588 posts Report post #4 Posted April 22, 2017 I think it's probably because of Youtube. I'm pretty sure Jingles posted a video with someone having success with something like this... Yes, you are correct. It was Panzerknacker who posted vid with Two Brothers. Week ago I also had doubtful pleasure of ending up in the team, doing exactly the same with very predictable outcome... Monkey see, monkey do... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DC_DK] hgbn_dk Players 3,370 posts 44,373 battles Report post #5 Posted April 22, 2017 That slot is a notorious idiot magnet.. always been... you can go up in it later in the game.. suicide at start 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cro_pwr Players 2,735 posts 10,310 battles Report post #6 Posted April 22, 2017 Look, I can kind of understand when I lay down smoke and you sail right through it even though you're two salvos away from being deleted. You're mortally afraid of torps, fine, even though I made sure no DDs are in reach. But why is there almost always someone going down the middle in Two Brothers? What sense does that make? Of course they get spotted and destroyed almost every time like fish in a barrel. Even if they don't, the start of the match is not the time for it. Even if you get through, you'll still be flanked on both sides with no one to support you. Is there some brilliant flanking maneuver in their head or are they just straight-up bots? Is it the WoWS equivalent of suicide-scouting T-50s? because human stupidity knows no boundaries. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] Kartoffelmos Alpha Tester 2,237 posts 8,884 battles Report post #7 Posted April 22, 2017 (Sorry, the title made me do it) But why is there almost always someone going down the middle in Two Brothers? What sense does that make? But they play for fun! Did you not have fun? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Migulaitor Players 748 posts Report post #8 Posted April 22, 2017 I dont understand your problem I usually push trough the middle in two brothers and with a bit of team work its a good plan. In a standard battle you force the enemy to come back in domination you split their forces. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DC_DK] hgbn_dk Players 3,370 posts 44,373 battles Report post #9 Posted April 22, 2017 yeah but not right by the start of the match when everybody still is at spawn.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] Strapps [TOXIC] Players 1,135 posts 5,968 battles Report post #10 Posted April 22, 2017 Was on the receiving end of this in a battle last week. The enemy successfully split our forces and our BBs and CAs didn't know whether to push forward or go back, meaning they dithered until we were all wrecked. So that's another set of players who won a battle by pushing the middle and will continue doing the same in future because, "it worked that one time". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] loppantorkel Players 4,506 posts 15,942 battles Report post #11 Posted April 22, 2017 It's doable under the right circumstances, and when it is, it's usually pretty fun. Nothing wrong about playing for fun, most of us do it in the end. It's a game after all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EdiJo Players 1,419 posts 11,712 battles Report post #12 Posted April 22, 2017 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HyoukaYukikaze Beta Tester 165 posts 5,324 battles Report post #13 Posted April 22, 2017 (edited) But why is there almost always someone going down the middle in Two Brothers? Sometimes when i'm frustrated and need to vent i decide to go down the middle. Most of a time it ends with me taking a few ships with me (last time it was 3 afair). A few times i even survived to the end of battle.But yeah, generally a bad idea. Esp in a ship not suited for that. Edited April 22, 2017 by Simikazee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HMSR] Major_Damage225 Beta Tester 2,875 posts 7,295 battles Report post #14 Posted April 22, 2017 I went through the "death ally" a few times, sometimes u get hammered, then there is the time u do big damage to the enemy tem, provided u DO NOT get spotted or its game over, is it a good tactic, heck no but it is a hellova lot of fun if you suceed(did it in nagato and tirpitz, one time me in tirp and a fellow teamember in his gneisenau), however i did prefer the old two brothers(concerning the straight). In short bad tactic but good fun, load up and Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ferry_25 Players 4,392 posts 12,107 battles Report post #15 Posted April 22, 2017 It's still my absolute dream: to have battle in which all go through the center and fight it out there! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tenacious_torps ∞ Players 1,373 posts Report post #16 Posted April 22, 2017 I am very tempted to fork over the money I saved from not buying the Duca to EarlGrey for some "I survived the vagina of doom" boxers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_DeathWing_ Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 2,625 posts 9,867 battles Report post #17 Posted April 22, 2017 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_DeathWing_ Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 2,625 posts 9,867 battles Report post #18 Posted April 28, 2017 But on the other hand! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[XFS] SDGsteve Players 207 posts 19,413 battles Report post #19 Posted April 28, 2017 Did it one time with success One DD went first then two of us in Tirpitz, DD put his smoke down torpedo both sides with the 2 x Tirpitz doing the same took out 4 enemy before lost one Tirpitz, the enemy came into us left both flanks open for others to come and clean up great game for us, but wouldn't recommend it now though maybe this was one luck time it worked out perfect Always see someone going down middle on there own silly tactics Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POP] YukiEiriKun [POP] Beta Tester 1,500 posts 5,749 battles Report post #20 Posted April 28, 2017 (edited) Perhaps I should make an vid of my first ever Kiev battle (before the change) where I sailed through the middle, drunk as an sailor and capped.. ...To be honest, it happened right after we had basically cleared the western flank, our eastern flank was holding nicely an I had just sunk three enemies who came through the middle..;) (I'll grab the screenies now...) Edited April 29, 2017 by YukiEiriKun Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaxonHoliday Players 165 posts 5,738 battles Report post #21 Posted April 28, 2017 I do it for the giggles. Especially in my Scharnhorst. That ship is the most troll-tastic thing you can sail down that corridor. Last time I did it, I got 108k damage in 5 minutes... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VC381 Players 2,928 posts 6,549 battles Report post #22 Posted April 28, 2017 Thing is, like any stupid tactic, it has a small chance to succeed just because the enemy isn't expecting you to be that stupid. That doesn't make it worth trying although there are situations where it's not such a terrible idea. Also, there are people that play for those rare moments when something stupid turns out awesome, and try it without caring about the numerous times it doesn't work. I guess we should respect their right to do that if they find it fun. I actually did this in reverse once, starting north on brothers pushed the west side easily while east collapsed, capped C and surprised the enemy team (who were now in our spawn) by coming back up the middle. This was a DD, a Des Moines and two Montanas. They had a Gearing defending the gap that must have soiled his pants when I turned my radar on from our DDs smoke. A few of their BBs then panicked and turned broadside across the gap... Yeah... It was fun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CPA] Procrastes Beta Tester 4,083 posts 4,481 battles Report post #23 Posted April 28, 2017 The "sailing down the middle channel-manoeuver" has been elaborated upon in at least one Jingles-video, which I took as an opportunity to open a thread on the whole "Playing for Fun" issue. Is it a good thing, or a bad one? What does it truly mean? Gaming philosophy in its purest form, in my opinion! I'll add a link below; not to invoke thread necromancy but because my opening post really says just about all I have to say on the matter. http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/61403-playing-for-fun-a-question-of-philosophy/page__fromsearch__1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheCinC Quality Poster 1,695 posts 9,500 battles Report post #24 Posted April 28, 2017 It doesn't work, because people are suspecting it, because they know it still happens, and because it basically results in either a free kill or a real problem. I for one always keep an eye on the channel when I am in any position to do so, even just checking the minimap while somewhere else entirely, to alert my team to a possible problem. Last weekend or so, deleted a North Carolina that dared to pass through, as I was nearby in my HMS Edinburgh. Three torpedo hits in total, over 33 k damage just to that NC. Also over 11 k damage to the Nürnberg who was happy to accompany him. We won that game handily. I only go channel if there is no time to waste, such as when we are about to lose due to capping and I can't take the time to go the long way around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] loppantorkel Players 4,506 posts 15,942 battles Report post #25 Posted April 28, 2017 Sometimes the channel compels you to do it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites