[UNICS] loppantorkel Players 4,506 posts 15,942 battles Report post #1 Posted April 18, 2017 I would like to nominate Khaba - the ship with no real counters, and Missouri - a BB with 10km radar. Nominate your own candidates for a future nerf. Edit: 2017 thread revived. Khaba had a bunch of nerfs. YY was the victim of 2018. What's coming 2019? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[A-SLO] jure_eruj Players 235 posts Report post #2 Posted April 18, 2017 And another week, another OP saltiness.... 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] loppantorkel Players 4,506 posts 15,942 battles Report post #3 Posted April 18, 2017 And another week, another OP saltiness.... Where's the salt? Oh... you just felt an inclination to contribute with some of your own..? Well, it's okay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,662 battles Report post #4 Posted April 18, 2017 And another week, another OP saltiness.... Most of the OP RU DDs were not really DDs, but destroyer leaders, actually light cruisers like Tenryu, Kuma, Phoenix, with big juicy citadels... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CLADS] lycea Players 152 posts 16,068 battles Report post #5 Posted April 18, 2017 http://wows-numbers.com/ships/ Here are you candidates. just sort them on winrate or average damage. No need to make a thread about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corvi Beta Tester, In AlfaTesters 1,147 posts 16,279 battles Report post #6 Posted April 18, 2017 Shimakaze Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Aotearas Players 8,460 posts 13,076 battles Report post #7 Posted April 18, 2017 Shimakaze Nurf. NURF!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] loppantorkel Players 4,506 posts 15,942 battles Report post #8 Posted April 18, 2017 http://wows-numbers.com/ships/ Here are you candidates. just sort them on winrate or average damage. No need to make a thread about it. What's up with all the spam? Is the load on WGs servers too great to handle another thread? Does all new threads have to go through a vetting process by veteran forum members? ....and 'no', apparently looking at those stats isn't enough to determine the OP-ness of a ship.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[A-SLO] jure_eruj Players 235 posts Report post #9 Posted April 18, 2017 Well, one week it's Bismarck, another one is Belfast, this week is Khaba.... Come on, stop shedding the tears and man up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] loppantorkel Players 4,506 posts 15,942 battles Report post #10 Posted April 18, 2017 Well, one week it's Bismarck, another one is Belfast, this week is Khaba.... Come on, stop shedding the tears and man up. Thing is that this go around. I didn't start the thread complaining about a ship asking for a nerf. I'm asking what ships others think is the most OP at high tiers. It's a discussion forum about a game. Still, people need to contribute their kneejerk responses about tears and salt. 'Whaaa whaa another thread about OP ships....' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corvi Beta Tester, In AlfaTesters 1,147 posts 16,279 battles Report post #11 Posted April 18, 2017 Nurf. NURF!!! It seriously needs some nerfs thou Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miessa3 Beta Tester 1,650 posts 8,204 battles Report post #12 Posted April 18, 2017 I would like to nominate Khaba - the ship with no real counters, and Missouri - a BB with 10km radar. Nominate your own candidates for a future nerf. The USS Black Hands down. A DD with USN Radar and Fletcher Guns and Torpedos....... Even Khaba can't do anything against that monster. (Well Khaba don't has to as they have different hunting grounds/areas) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capra76 Players 5,001 posts 7,787 battles Report post #13 Posted April 18, 2017 The USS Black Hands down. A DD with USN Radar and Fletcher Guns and Torpedos Black gets hugely nerfed Mk 29 Torpedoes, 13.7 km range but 42 knots only, give me the Mk 16 or even the Mk 15 mod 3 any day please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XbodzioXplX Players 6,008 posts 7,043 battles Report post #14 Posted April 18, 2017 I would like to nominate Khaba - the ship with no real counters, and Missouri - a BB with 10km radar. Nominate your own candidates for a future nerf. All CVs and fire from CA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #15 Posted April 18, 2017 I would like to nominate Khaba - the ship with no real counters, and Missouri - a BB with 10km radar. Nominate your own candidates for a future nerf. Ships you haven't played yourself... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Aotearas Players 8,460 posts 13,076 battles Report post #16 Posted April 18, 2017 (edited) Well, one week it's Bismarck, another one is Belfast, this week is Khaba.... Come on, stop shedding the tears and man up. So, are you saying the Khabarovsk (as the ship originally named in this thread) isn't overperforming relative to other ships at its tier and class? Because if you think there's little more to this thread than whining and just manning up is sufficient recourse for handling it, then I can only assume that you believe the Khabarovsk is in well balanced. I'd like to actually see you make some relevant arguments on that matter then, because simply bleating "stop whining and man up" is for one no argument and secondly just the thing you're supposedly demanding others to stop (oh the hypocrisy). I actually do believe the Khabarovsk is in fact overperforming due to its combination of agility (very high speed and good manouverability makes it easy for the Khabarovsk to be where it wants to and evade return fire if need be), durability (good HP plus heal and substantial armour for a DD that makes a good part of its hull immune to DD caliber HE) and its amazing dpm (both HE, fire chance and AP) paired with excellent ballistics (effective dpm is very high due to the ease of hitting your target: hitting a 10km distant DD with Khabarovsk is easy, in a Gearing much less so). Only downsides are the comparatively worse torpedoes (which aren't that bad, just subpar since no one bothers speccing into a torpedo build), no access to smoke if choosing the heal and worst detectability. Compared with other DDs (Grozevoy omitted due to it still being in the tweaking process regarding balance): Gearing has similar dpm (two guns less but higher rate of fire), but much worse ballistics. Z-52 has similar ballistics and good AP dpm, but bad HE dpm. Shimakaze has similarily excellent ballistics, but the worst dpm. No DD compares in durability. Z-52 can get similar maximum HP, but lacks heal. No other DD gets as good armour. Shimakaze has similar, even superiour manouverability, but is slower by a fair margin. Gearing likewise has superiour manouverability, but is slower, especially if it picked Defensive AA over the Engine Boost. Gearing has superiour torpedoes, Shimakaze has more torpedoes and Z-52 has a faster torpedo reload (albeit lowest torpedo alpha weight due to fewer torpedoes and lowest maximum damage). Gearing has vastly superiour smoke and Z-52, though with short smoke bloom and duration will always have access to smoke regardless whilst Khabarovsk may not have smoke at all or ties with worst. Shimakaze can choose between similarily inferiour smoke or torpedoe reload booster for a ludicrous torpedo broadside of 30 high damage torpedoes. Z-52 has hydro-acoustic search. Eagerly awaiting your reply! Edited April 18, 2017 by Aotearas 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigbramble Players 400 posts 13,496 battles Report post #17 Posted April 18, 2017 The fact is that despite the Khaba's high win rate is still has lower average damage than what; all of the top tier BB's? What does that tell you? BB's out perform the other classes on damage done in just about every tier yet all we hear about is nerfing the only truly strong tier 10 destroyer. Buff all the DD's up to that level I say. In my opinion the cruisers are the best ships at tier 10 but are they overpowered? Not in my opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corvi Beta Tester, In AlfaTesters 1,147 posts 16,279 battles Report post #18 Posted April 18, 2017 Khebab is a ship that can highhandedly win a game. I've never seen any other ship win so many games completely by itself just by sailing around in circles spamming HE without anyone being able to hit it. Broken beyond repair Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOO] Hawg Players 495 posts 12,346 battles Report post #19 Posted April 18, 2017 It seriously needs some nerfs thou Not after the last patch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pra3y Players 3,021 posts 11,390 battles Report post #20 Posted April 18, 2017 Missouri - a BB with 10km radar. You should get your facts right first. It's 9.45 km Even the wiki page gives you the correct range. And you wonder why people feel that you're salty eh. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[XTREM] walter3kurtz Players 1,037 posts 10,820 battles Report post #21 Posted April 18, 2017 Shima with 20km torps, it's unfair that it can launch them from so far away and at good speed too. It even increases the torpedo rating of the ship. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miessa3 Beta Tester 1,650 posts 8,204 battles Report post #22 Posted April 18, 2017 Black gets hugely nerfed Mk 29 Torpedoes, 13.7 km range but 42 knots only, give me the Mk 16 or even the Mk 15 mod 3 any day please. ok but the problem is the radar + smoke + decent fletcher guns. The Torpedos are a good selfdefense on top for anyone pushing the smoke AND are even usable on 12+ km range even if it only is for Area denial, Something you can't say for most IJN DDs that are supposed to be focused around Torpedos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EUSKA] Komaaz [EUSKA] Beta Tester 1,383 posts Report post #23 Posted April 18, 2017 Henri IV. Already nerfed before being released, too much potential. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BOTS] deadly_if_swallowed Players 1,678 posts 13,867 battles Report post #24 Posted April 18, 2017 Back in the days when fail-divisions were still a thing, the most op ship in high tier battles was Umikaze 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] MrWastee Players 4,255 posts 33,584 battles Report post #25 Posted April 18, 2017 .... i want C. with some bacon plz 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
