Collectors club

[hgbn_dk]

Yep but a goodie. BTW Katori was placed in the tech tree just before Christmas together with Albany and Smith. But I do agree that it is a mistake to remove ships from the in game tech tree. More than once I've bought ships there I didn't plan to buy in the first place. Impulse purchases.

[Aragathor]

12 minutes ago, hgbn_dk said:

BTW Katori was placed in the tech tree just before Christmas together with Albany and Smith.

That's how I bought the Albany. The only way to buy that ship previously was to buy a huge bundle with all USN premiums. I was never interested in that bundle, wanting only the Albany.

The moment it got in, I bought doubloons to get the ship through the tech tree. It wasn't an impulse purchase, but rather an economically viable way of obtaining the ship I wanted. And I play that one only in coop.

 

17 minutes ago, hgbn_dk said:

But I do agree that it is a mistake to remove ships from the in game tech tree. More than once I've bought ships there I didn't plan to buy in the first place. Impulse purchases.

I'm more of a planner. I like to plan my purchases. Having a choice allows me to get the cash together to make a purchase. Sometimes it means that WG pulls the offer out of the shop before I can buy it, like one of the HSF captain bundles, which got removed the day before I could buy it.  And that's also a thing that irks me, WG should be transparent about the duration of the special offers and sales. Their shop has the built in timer function, they used it before on certain items, and they should also add it to "special offer" items. Because they aren't pressuring me to buy, they are aggravating me not to. If I cannot time my purchase and plan it, I won't be making one.

 

[WolfGewehr]

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There was one possibility to get Iwaki and Arkansas

 

12 hours ago, Arakus said:

 

Thats not really true!

For the Arkansas you are right, everybody had a chance to be betatester and get this ship!

But for the Iwaki you are wrong, even for players who wanted to be an alpha tester there was no a chance to get it because WG decided which one became a alpha tester and which not!

I am a WoT player since early closed Beta and was not selected after i subscribed to be a WoWS alpha tester, so i had NO chance to get a Iwaki alpha!

 

That's just your own interpretation of my vague sentence. There was a theoretical possibility for individuals to get accepted into alpha and thus earn the Iwaki. A possibility nevertheless. If you didn't get chosen to alpha then sucks to be you. Me too as I wasn't there either. I guess I could have phrased my sentence better to avoid possibility for semantics and reflect more what I meant, i.e. everyone as individual entity had a chance to be chosen and thus there was a possibility.

 

CBT was more accessible true, but still not free for all. First you had to be lucky to get in, like during alpha and only after some time WG brought the option to BUY an access with Sims/Gremmy/Yubari. So you got in by being lucky or using money. Here the people who couldn't afford the money could say that "there was not a chance to get Arkansas because WG decided who became closed beta tester for free and who didn't". After preorder packages were implemented people could decide themselves to join CBT yes, but not for free, thus still excluding some of the people who wanted to join.

 

Whether people could decide themselves if they got into specific phase of testing or not doesn't matter. The principle is that Iwaki was meant as an exclusive reward for those, let them then be called the lucky ones, who got in. Same principle goes for Arkansas. If you weren't there to get them for whatever reasons, dependant on you or not, then ouch.

 

 

12 hours ago, Arakus said:

Iwaki ( not alpha^^ )

 

People can twist the name as much as they want, but the name itself doesn't really matter so much. It's the model and stats that make those ships unique. You can ask for a sistership of Iwaki, with different stats, model and perks/consumables for all I care, but the time for acquiring Iwaki and Arkansas itself is over. Those ships were meant to be exclusive rewards, and as such they shall stay.

 

 

That's all for me on this topic.

[Spellfire40]

17 minutes ago, WolfGewehr said:

 

 

That's just your own interpretation of my vague sentence. There was a theoretical possibility for individuals to get accepted into alpha and thus earn the Iwaki. A possibility nevertheless. If you didn't get chosen to alpha then sucks to be you. Me too as I wasn't there either. I guess I could have phrased my sentence better to avoid possibility for semantics and reflect more what I meant, i.e. everyone as individual entity had a chance to be chosen and thus there was a possibility.

 

CBT was more accessible true, but still not free for all. First you had to be lucky to get in, like during alpha and only after some time WG brought the option to BUY an access with Sims/Gremmy/Yubari. So you got in by being lucky or using money. Here the people who couldn't afford the money could say that "there was not a chance to get Arkansas because WG decided who became closed beta tester for free and who didn't". After preorder packages were implemented people could decide themselves to join CBT yes, but not for free, thus still excluding some of the people who wanted to join.

 

Whether people could decide themselves if they got into specific phase of testing or not doesn't matter. The principle is that Iwaki was meant as an exclusive reward for those, let them then be called the lucky ones, who got in. Same principle goes for Arkansas. If you weren't there to get them for whatever reasons, dependant on you or not, then ouch.

 

 

 

People can twist the name as much as they want, but the name itself doesn't really matter so much. It's the model and stats that make those ships unique. You can ask for a sistership of Iwaki, with different stats, model and perks/consumables for all I care, but the time for acquiring Iwaki and Arkansas itself is over. Those ships were meant to be exclusive rewards, and as such they shall stay.

 

 

That's all for me on this topic.

Wasnt there some free Beta weeks before it closed? the battles for akansas sure were ratehr low (50? cant remember 100%) . The real Limitation was rather that not being aware of the game at that time.... Alpha is another thing. I did get an WoWP beta invite just by being an active WoT player. I didnt get alpha or beta invites and had to buy in with the fleet pack. Does i feel cheated? not really i hardly ever even get Akansas out, Gremmy was fun thogh at her high times with invis fire.

 

Does i feel cheated that i dont get an Iwaki? Not really. Would have liked her for compleation but when they reaktivly awared the Flint i gave up for that anyhow.....thats something i were salty about 

[Major_Damage225]

Well if you would like a Iwaki A or Ark B, there is always the chinese server, from what i heard everything is for sale there 

 

[Skyllon]

Get back on topic guys. Discuss those things in relevant thread.

[MrFingers]

On 21-4-2018 at 12:25 PM, MrConway said:

Could you let me know what kind of premium ship offers you are missing for example? I will gladly take your concerns to the table!

I think the main issue sits for a big (huge?) part with the culling of plenty of premium ships from the techtree in 0.7.1., with the promise they would then "rotate in the premium shop". If there was an actual rotation, it wouldn't be so bad, but as things are currently standing now, even Pluto is rotating the sun faster than the premium ships rotate in the Premium Shop. Also it cuts out a huge way to spend doubloons (not interested in vanity items, nor premium time). I'm willing to spend money in WOWS, but you guys are giving me nothing to spend it on. Premium ships: the ones that are on offer I already own, or I am not interested in... and they come with a port-slot, of which I already have 16+ in excess, so I'm not buying stuff I'm not needing in the first place. So the wallet stays shut, and the doubloons remain where they are.

 

As a CBT player, I personally have no issues with other players getting a version of the Arkansas or Iwaki. As long as the Alpha & Beta stuff remains the same and exclusive. So a standard camo (which will also be given to the Alpha/Beta players for free, so they can switch between that & the Alpha/Beta exclusive as they desire), and just the Arkansas/Iwaki name in the roster. And maybe to sweeten the pill for the CAT/CBT-players to credit them with the doubloons the new ships will cost to their account. Or a substantial discount in the Premium Shop, which is not limited in time or potential use (either a percentage, or a fixed monetary amount, on everything in the premium shop, including offers, ships,...).

[Partykongen]

On ‎23‎-‎04‎-‎2018 at 1:41 PM, MrFingers said:

I think the main issue sits for a big (huge?) part with the culling of plenty of premium ships from the techtree in 0.7.1., with the promise they would then "rotate in the premium shop". If there was an actual rotation, it wouldn't be so bad, but as things are currently standing now, even Pluto is rotating the sun faster than the premium ships rotate in the Premium Shop. Also it cuts out a huge way to spend doubloons (not interested in vanity items, nor premium time). I'm willing to spend money in WOWS, but you guys are giving me nothing to spend it on. Premium ships: the ones that are on offer I already own, or I am not interested in... and they come with a port-slot, of which I already have 16+ in excess, so I'm not buying stuff I'm not needing in the first place. So the wallet stays shut, and the doubloons remain where they are.

 

As a CBT player, I personally have no issues with other players getting a version of the Arkansas or Iwaki. As long as the Alpha & Beta stuff remains the same and exclusive. So a standard camo (which will also be given to the Alpha/Beta players for free, so they can switch between that & the Alpha/Beta exclusive as they desire), and just the Arkansas/Iwaki name in the roster. And maybe to sweeten the pill for the CAT/CBT-players to credit them with the doubloons the new ships will cost to their account. Or a substantial discount in the Premium Shop, which is not limited in time or potential use (either a percentage, or a fixed monetary amount, on everything in the premium shop, including offers, ships,...).

Have to say I'm in the same boat (so to say).

I'm only interested in using my doubloons on ships I find interesting. But if I can't buy my doubloons at the right time and use them at the right time, there is, for me, no point in using real Money on doubloons at all.

AND it takes more than a slap in the face called a 10% discount coupon to make me buy a ship directly from the shop.

If your Collection of Premium ships is modest, the choice left is rather limited, unless you don't have to worry about money and you can just buy what you want directly from the shop.

[Mr_Tayto]

I'd like to join please!

 

There are very few premiums I don't own. I have a bit of a problem with pixel ships.

 

One I don't have is Kidd, missed out the first time. Anyone know if it's due to come back?

[Yogibjoern]

11 minutes ago, Mr_Tayto said:

I'd like to join please!

 

There are very few premiums I don't own. I have a bit of a problem with pixel ships.

 

One I don't have is Kidd, missed out the first time. Anyone know if it's due to come back?

Think it was on sale when this season of Ranked started.

[Captain_Singleton]

i'm up to 103 ships, so let's get this started 

[hgbn_dk]

230 ships in port... Should be some sort of collectors club/ VIP lounge or something for people having 100 or 200 plus ships... All we want is a tittle on the forums, some occasional special offers on items we don't have.

[Akula971]

Just thinned the fleet down, well down to 107. Love them all. So yes something similar to what the RU sever has would be nice. But with the EU offices past record, I'm not holding my breath.

[_VAMPA_]

8 hours ago, Mr_Tayto said:

I'd like to join please!

 

There are very few premiums I don't own. I have a bit of a problem with pixel ships.

 

One I don't have is Kidd, missed out the first time. Anyone know if it's due to come back?

Kidd was on sale for second time something liike 2 weeks ago..........

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REST READ PLS few posts back.

No more col.club and on RU

[Bellegar]

Guys, read the thread before posting. Especially when conjuring up a thread long lost to the ancient times.

 

The Collector's Club is no more.

 

On ‎16‎-‎1‎-‎2018 at 9:47 AM, Kandly said:

 

Hi! No official news or announcement yet, but as far as I know, the plan is to centralize it in the near future, just like all other aspects of the game that recently got unified. I'm not sure when more info on this is coming, but I can confirm that the idea is to either globalize it or turn it into something else altogether. We'll see how it progresses but please don't take my reply as any kind of promise for now.  

 

P.S. Of course there is hope!!! 

 

On ‎19‎-‎4‎-‎2018 at 11:56 AM, Kandly said:

 

 

Hey! It's true that I'm not working on WoWs anymore and I'm not the best person to answer, but I remember being told that the plan was to coordinate globally in this regard - which is why when we were pushing for it on EU, I think it was too late since it has already been planned to either have it run globally or cut from all regions. I wasn't aware that it was killed in RU already - but this can also mean that they're rethinking their approach and that maybe in the future they will come up with something else they can implement in all regions from the get-go. I have no information on this obviously, but I simply wanted to ask you not to lose your faith - I trust the WoWs dev team and the WoWs Community Managers and I'm certain they'll all do their best to share your concerns & wishes and bring more and more cool stuff in the game for you guys.

 

On ‎21‎-‎4‎-‎2018 at 12:25 PM, MrConway said:

 

I'll bring the topic up, but as we have mostly discontinued the club on the CIS server, I cannot promise anything.

 

 

We are doing a lot of rethinking and I am saddened to see that you think it has negatively impacted you, this is really the absolute opposite of our intention. I honestly think that we have had some very cool events with the French arc that just finished and the American arc that is now beginning.

 

There will be free ships for people who have US cruisers, a new collection, new unique captain and lots more.

 

Could you let me know what kind of premium ship offers you are missing for example? I will gladly take your concerns to the table!

 

[Skyllon]

8 minutes ago, Bellegar said:

The Collector's Club is no more.

But not necessarily collecting related benefits.

[hgbn_dk]

All we ask for is a official stamp of acknowledgement for pouring a lot of money into the game. Don't have to come with special features like testing new ships pre release or something like that.

[Toxoplasmosi]

Alle 21/4/2018 alle 12:25, MrConway ha scritto:

Could you let me know what kind of premium ship offers you are missing for example? I will gladly take your concerns to the table!

For me KUTUZOV for now :-))))

"I will gladly take your concerns to the table!" will do it also for me?

Ciao MrConway and TYVM!

[Ulvesnutepostei]

If you have so many ships, like 200+ or something you should get a collectors flag ... maybe the Armada flag that came with the "All Premiums Bundle" or whatever it was called ...

[piet11111]

Seems the Russians resurrected the collectors club.

So gentlemen please be seated and enjoy some stronk google translatink.

 

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Hello commanders!

 

 

Today, we would like to finally dot the i in the situation that has developed with the club "Collectors". To do this, let's plunge into history a bit and remember what this initiative represented and why it was created, as well as what its future awaits.

 

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Club "Collectors" (abbreviated KK) is a group of very active players, which are united by love for ships and marine themes. By creating this club, we wanted to give the players involved additional opportunities that, for a number of reasons, could not be extended to all.

 

Such opportunities included:

• an additional separate store ("The table of orders");

• direct channel of communication of club members with developers;

• a flag in the game;

• closed section on the forum and, accordingly, a separate group;

• competitions for club members only.

 

The criterion for joining the KK was the presence in Port of a player of at least 50 different ships and the level of the account at least 13th.

 

Within the club, the group "Test collectors" (CI) was singled out. To enter into it it was possible under certain conditions:

• already be a QC participant;

• after getting acquainted with the additional rules of the CI group to apply for membership.

 

CIs had the additional opportunity to take part in testing new ships. Unfortunately, most of the privileges have recently been frozen, because:

• current activities required a lot of manual work;

• for the most part they could only be used by visitors to the forum.

 

At the moment, we want to completely rebuild the approach to QA work. A number of limiting factors and causes have been eliminated, so we are announcing for you a new format of the club, which is ready to launch.

 

IMPORTANT:

Immediately note that we publish preliminary information, tk. we understand that you are waiting for it for a long time. Not everything will work instantly, something will have to wait, but you will already have an idea of where we are heading.

 

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Club "Collectors" 2.0 are all the same active players who love ships, naval themes and our game.

 

The player automatically enters the club as soon as he reaches the 15th level of the account and in his Port 50 ships are collected (any, but at least one fight must be played at least.) All modes except the training room are taken into account. The addition takes place in the first week of the quarter. The next addition to the club will be at the beginning of July 2018.

 

What does the collector get after joining the club?

1. Group "Collector" and access to the closed section of the club on the forum.

2. Flag of the club member.

3. A patch with the club's logo in the game.

 

Note: before the flag could be obtained only 3 months after entering the club, i.e. there was a probationary period, in which now there is no need. Since July, the flag of the club's member collectors will receive immediately, a badge too, but as soon as it is entered into the game.

 

What to do next?

By increasing the number of ships in Porto, the collector can collect a collection of special emblems:

• "Collector of the III degree" - for the presence of 100 ships in Porto during the last 100 fights;

• "Collector of the II degree" - for 150 ships in Porto during the last 100 fights;

• "Collector of the I degree" - for 200 ships in Porto during the last 100 fights;

• "Collector. Elite "- for 250 ships in Porto during the last 100 fights.

Thus, the more ships remain permanently in your collection, the higher the rank of your logo.

 

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And what about the previous additional opportunities?

 

Premium Club Store

Sale of property in the Premium Club store was carried out in 3 ways:

1. packages for club members in the main Premium store;

2. goods for doubloons in the "order table";

3. pre-sale packages for new ships.

 

Through special packages for members of the club in the Premium store at various times sold ships, camouflage and flags. Through the "Table of orders", but already for doubloons, it was possible to purchase similar goods. Preliminary sales, however, allowed to get a new ship to Port before other players, but only as part of the most expensive package.

 

In the framework of the new policy of working with the community, one of the principles of which is the availability of any (not rewarded or exclusively reserved for partners) goods to all players, we decided not to deal with the development of the new concept of the Premium Club store, and instead try to put it on sale, in one way or another, as many ships and property as possible for absolutely all players. Thus, the need for a separate store for the club will disappear.

 

Already this summer, follow the update of the Premium store and property, which you can buy in the client of the game. For example, we will return many ships on sale in the game client for doubloons and in the Premium store.

 

Testing of ships by club members

Collectors were given the opportunity, through a personal application in a special topic, to join the "Test collectors" (CI) subgroup and take part in testing the ships. We pursued 2 main goals:

1. collect data and feedback on ships;

2. give players involved the opportunity to be involved in the creation of the game.

 

Unfortunately, to achieve the first goal, our experiment in this format failed. The number of players testing new equipment has increased significantly, but this did not affect the data and feedback that came to us. Those. Previously, developers and a group of super test (CT) were engaged in this, then a group of CIs was added to them, and the situation for us as conditional customers did not change. But we saw that the second goal is more or less achieved, so it was decided to go to test drives.

 

Ships were issued by CI a few days before the release. But here we also suffered a failure: the growing group of CI required serious control and huge time costs on our part. It was not possible to automate this: there were no resources and technical capabilities. All this, as a growing com, led to the fact that the test drives stopped. The concept was recognized as unsuccessful.

 

We understand that such activity is very interesting for players, and we will continue to work in this direction. Perhaps it will be a different format for early access to new technology or rental. While we do not know, but are ready to work out the idea within the framework of the already common loyalty program, so that each player can get such an opportunity - by understandable rules.

 

Developer's answers to questions from club members

Within the framework of the new policy of openness at the official World of Warships forum, for all players, active work is already under way to answer questions and solve problems of players.

 

Additionally, any player can write to one of the special mailboxes, if he does not want to post the question for public discussion:

1 mailbox (feedback) - wows_feedback@wargaming.net.

2 mailbox (complaints) - wows_complaints@wargaming.net.

3 mailbox (offers) - wows_suggestions@wargaming.net.

 

Flag in the game

Now every player, entering the club, gets it right away.

 

Separate private section

The closed section remains, it will only undergo some changes in connection with the new concept.

 

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Once again we want to focus your attention on the fact that we, like you, are inclined to develop ideas that we developed inside the club, but in a different format. You will see the first fruits in June-July of this year. We will continue to analyze your activity and improve these opportunities within reasonable limits. And now we are working on a loyalty system and veterans' awards.

 

Thank you for your attention and good luck in the battles!

 

 

So lets see if we can get our own collectors group going.

[Aragathor]

30 minutes ago, piet11111 said:

So lets see if we can get our own collectors group going.

Let me give you the "WG Answer":

 

Maybe, we'll get back to you soon.®

[piet11111]

Just now, Aragathor said:

Let me give you the "WG Answer":

 

Maybe, we'll get back to you soon.®

 

Honestly i cant say i expect a different result

But i do hope Tuccy or MrConway are able to clarify.

 

@Tuccy

@MrConway

[44mortarman]

It is good to hear that a new version of the Collector's club has started.

 

 

[Yogibjoern]

50 different ships needed to qualify for a membership... Lol I have more premium ships than that on my main account.. Let's see what happens. Don't expect much to be honest

[MrFingers]

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