[RACHE] St4n Players 137 posts 955 battles Report post #1 Posted April 13, 2017 (edited) So we allready have: 5 DD lines (4 full and 2 half ones) 5 CL lines 3 BB lines 2 CV lines And they release another CL line? So 6 full lines in total? How about some new BBs? Or, god forbid, a new CV line? I can see why they prefer CL lines, but that's just thinking short term. So how they appeal to players if they allready have spend all their candy? Release 4 CV lines in sequence? Yeah, that will be well received by the playerbase... *sarcasm* Especially becaus it won't be in quick succession, but rather as long as they needed to release the last 4 lines. To be honest I just wait for the german CV line and don't care much about the other nations. But I don't even see CV lines for other nations at all. Just the 2 the game got released with. So one CL line released after the other and if it's not a CL line it's sure as hell just a DD line... *rant over* Edited April 13, 2017 by St4n Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
praetor_jax Beta Tester 1,266 posts 4,216 battles Report post #2 Posted April 13, 2017 Cruisers are probably the best choice for bringing many nations into the game without having to resort to blueprints or napkin drawings as they tend to be the most prominent type of warship in any navy of that time. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #3 Posted April 13, 2017 (edited) To be honest I just wait for the german CV line and don't care much about the other nations. But I don't even see CV lines for other nations at all. Just the 2 the game got released with. 1. No new CV line will be introduced until the rework. When is that? Soon™. 2. I believe it was stated once that KM would not get a CV line because there are no ships to fill it, paper or otherwise? 3. All nations start with cruisers. Edited April 13, 2017 by El2aZeR 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] G01ngToxicCommand0 Beta Tester 2,177 posts 23,318 battles Report post #4 Posted April 13, 2017 Cruisers are probably the best choice for bringing many nations into the game without having to resort to blueprints or napkin drawings as they tend to be the most prominent type of warship in any navy of that time. ^This. But it wont make more cruiser players though.. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puxflacet Players 1,694 posts 3,784 battles Report post #5 Posted April 13, 2017 (edited) i think the only new cv line will be the british...maybe some branches for us and japs also heard that french battleships should be the very next line after the cruisers Edited April 13, 2017 by puxflacet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robihr Players 3,168 posts 9,352 battles Report post #6 Posted April 13, 2017 so you want more BB lines for more BB overpop? sure... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[P0RT] Admiral_H_Nelson Players 3,938 posts 23,206 battles Report post #7 Posted April 13, 2017 Why another cruiser line? Because Battleships are running out of targets. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RACHE] St4n Players 137 posts 955 battles Report post #8 Posted April 13, 2017 so you want more BB lines for more BB overpop? sure... Yes, that's exactly what I have written. *sarcasm* 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] G01ngToxicCommand0 Beta Tester 2,177 posts 23,318 battles Report post #9 Posted April 13, 2017 so you want more BB lines for more BB overpop? sure... What should make the players chose cruisers over battleships or destroyers? Other than historical reasons cruisers really have nothing going for them that can't be done between BBS and DDs that gives the players no good reason to pick cruisers over any other type of class. Unless making major changes to the core game mechanics and core game modes I can't see no reason why players should or would pick a cruiser instead of a BB, I do but that is because of historical reasons and the challenge playing cruisers present, but then I am a masochist. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RACHE] St4n Players 137 posts 955 battles Report post #10 Posted April 13, 2017 (edited) 1. No new CV line will be introduced until the rework. When is that? Soon™. 2. I believe it was stated once that KM would not get a CV line because there are no ships to fill it, paper or otherwise? 3. All nations start with cruisers. 1. What rework? Please point me to an announcement or something where I can read about it. 2. That didn't prevent them from releasing a russian line... 3. Fair enough, but instead of releasing another CL line for a new nation they could and should flash out the ones that are allready ingame. Edited April 13, 2017 by St4n Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Ubertron_X [NWP] Beta Tester 2,657 posts 25,756 battles Report post #11 Posted April 13, 2017 Short answer? Because! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLOBS] Spellfire40 Beta Tester 5,330 posts 13,776 battles Report post #12 Posted April 13, 2017 i think the only new cv line will be the british...maybe some branches for us and japs also heard that french battleships should be the very next line after the cruisers I would think another RN line either DD or BBs depending on Progress of the CV rework. Given its more safe to see if stabilize CV Population after a rework before they brinjg in RN CV. No sense to add a line that nearly None Plays due to ist gameplay chasing away the last few cv Players if they botch the rework. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CBS] Allied_Winter Players 6,242 posts 10,755 battles Report post #13 Posted April 13, 2017 1. What rework? Please point me to an announcement or something where I can read about it. 2. That didn't prevent them from releasing a russian line... 3. Fair enough, but instead of releasing another CL line for a new nation they could and should flash out the ones that are allready ingame. 1: Look here: http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/31444-some-interesting-info-from-ru/page__st__4640__pid__1568520#entry1568520 That's a QnA with one of the developers from last December. Check the second question 2. Russian based developer and Russian community ... 3. True that. Apparently WG goes with the approach: More nations before more 'fleshed out' cruisers of a single nation. Greetings 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXx_Blogis_xXx Alpha Tester, Players 5,335 posts 35,510 battles Report post #14 Posted April 13, 2017 better ca then camp corner bb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Aotearas Players 8,460 posts 13,076 battles Report post #15 Posted April 13, 2017 Yes, that's exactly what I have written. *sarcasm* That is the answer to your question however. The MM is dealing with an overpopulation of BBs, with more BBs than CLs/CAs per game being normal. Guess what introducing even more BBs would do to that ... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Ubertron_X [NWP] Beta Tester 2,657 posts 25,756 battles Report post #16 Posted April 13, 2017 better ca then camp corner bb Oh, you think the corner is your ally, you merely adopted the corner. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn’t see the ocean until I was already a man; by then, it was nothing to me but open space! The corners betray you, because they belong to me. I will show you where I have made my home, I will be preparing to bring justice. Then, I will break you. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #17 Posted April 13, 2017 Do you even play the game? Do you really think we need another BB line? REALLY? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puxflacet Players 1,694 posts 3,784 battles Report post #18 Posted April 13, 2017 That is the answer to your question however. The MM is dealing with an overpopulation of BBs, with more BBs than CLs/CAs per game being normal. Guess what introducing even more BBs would do to that ... that has nothing to do with the number of bb lines. if there would be the just one bb line, the effect would be the same...they are the strongest class and the most popular Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #19 Posted April 13, 2017 that has nothing to do with the number of bb lines. if there would be the just one bb line, the effect would be the same...they are the strongest class and the most popular komoo, on 13 April 2017 - 01:24 AM, said: Always wondered: if BBs are so strong, why is there a CA/CL meta on SEA (by reading reddit)? Well, that's easy. Cruisers are perfectly capable of pulling their weight even in average players' hands - as long as the class ratios are healthy. Basically, it's a feedback loop - too many BBs make cruiser play frustrating, leading to less cruisers and more BBs... EU suffered when KM BBs appeared - they were powerful and new, and fun... They became popular and disaster happened: we reached the critical mass of BBs. There were too many BBs to play cruisers comfortably, so people started playing less cruisers. Less cruisers meant more BBs because DDs kinda play their own game so even if there's a lot of them, they tend to kill each other at the start and by early mid-game you rarely end up with more than 2-3 per side surviving. BBs on the other hand mostly survive long and mostly shoot on cruisers first, given the choice. Once critical mass was reached, there was little that could be done to go back - even as the new BBs ceased being new, going back to cruisers wasn't really an option, because there were so many BBs around. Aaand, sinc people didn't go back to cruisers, there continued to be mostly BBs everywhere. That's why hard BB cap would be a good thing to do: assuming BBs are balanced (or at least not terribly out of balanced) the BB cap would force healthy class ratio, promoting cruiser play. After some time the cap could actually be softened or even go away, probably, because the main reason for people not playing cruisers now is the fact that OTHER people don't play cruisers. Artificially created situation where cruisers appear more common than they actually are would most likely lead to them REALLY becoming much more popular. Without German BB's, there would be no issue currently on EU server. This is a proven fact because NONE of the other servers have the EU BB overpopulation issue which is ... drum roll.... caused by German BB's being popular. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CBS] Allied_Winter Players 6,242 posts 10,755 battles Report post #20 Posted April 13, 2017 And that's why I try to stick to my cruisers as long as I can pull my weight. Greetings Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puxflacet Players 1,694 posts 3,784 battles Report post #21 Posted April 13, 2017 Without German BB's, there would be no issue currently on EU server. This is a proven fact because NONE of the other servers have the EU BB overpopulation issue which is ... drum roll.... caused by German BB's being popular. still nothing to do with number of BB lines Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHATS] Webley_Mark WoWs Wiki Team 12,258 posts 9,801 battles Report post #22 Posted April 13, 2017 Do you even play the game? Do you really think we need another BB line? REALLY? I have a bad news for you... A news that weight 50.000 tonnes... And flight a white ensign. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #23 Posted April 13, 2017 still nothing to do with number of BB lines It does. Most likely next BB line will be UK... guess what will happen on EU server when all those Brits can get their RN BB's to play with? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Ubertron_X [NWP] Beta Tester 2,657 posts 25,756 battles Report post #24 Posted April 13, 2017 Without German BB's, there would be no issue currently on EU server. This is a proven fact because NONE of the other servers have the EU BB overpopulation issue which is ... drum roll.... caused by German BB's being popular. English forum hits: 2.3 millions. German forum hits: 1.8 millions. German line is popular in Europe you say? Wait until the RN BBs show up... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puxflacet Players 1,694 posts 3,784 battles Report post #25 Posted April 13, 2017 It does. Most likely next BB line will be UK... guess what will happen on EU server when all those Brits can get their RN BB's to play with? cant believe it. you dont want to add british bbs because they would be too popular... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
