Is Atago worth it?

[Kirmin]

Since there is a offer on Atago at the moment I was considering to buy it, but is it a good ship? difficult to play? if you didnt have a Atago would you buy it again? Pros/cons?

[XbodzioXplX]

+ powerfull guns

+ great camo

+ great torpedoes

+ great low silhouette

+ has the repair consumable

+ has hydro or AA

+ quite good turning circle and speed

 

- low turret traverse

- low reload

- fire range is low (~15,6km)

- steerings often destroyed

- little AA (but if you use AA consumable it might destroy some planes)

- tier 8 ship, which means you will often face tier 10*

- Kutuzov with IFHE is now more dmg maker (she has smoke too)

 

* from me it is the most important thing why I did not use it for some months

[Don_hursiton]

hi,

 

Atago is seen, by mostly people and me, as the best T8 cruiser, or at the top 3.

It depend on your playstyle.

 

Very good concealment, nice mobility and good top speed, superbs torps fast at 10 km, nice guns (but reload is longer than other) and range could seems short for someone at 15 (or 16km, I do not remind).

 

I use it like my Zao, DD hunter (support our DD) at the beginning, then burn BB (IJN Bullet have good fire chance).

It 's fairly easy to have nice game with Atago, it's a good credit earner (IMHO) and make XP for captain.

Pay attention with his citadel.

But, it's armor is nice for a cruiser if you not broadside

 

so, if you want prem T8 cruiser, I think it's actually the best one (better than T8 RU Cl Mikhail, but again it is my opinion and it feel well with my playstyle).

 

PS : Atago was efficient in rank to.

[XbodzioXplX]

Atago was efficient in rank to.

 

In my opinion not too much.

 

The low reload not makes you a DD hunter.

The lack of range or smoke makes you not a BB fighter.

Yes it has nice torps but you don't use it a lot.

 

The Kutuzov has smoke and can make some DMG without being spotted. It is better DD hunter (8sec reload).

I think the Chapayev is better because the radar.

 

That is why on T8 I play DDs or Bismarck.

[_DeathWing_]

I would go for Mikhail Kutuzov instead. It has smoke, toprs, great guns with great range and HE... pain in the arse for BB players. Better ship IMO.

[VC381]

Yes. Tier for tier one of the strongest and most versatile cruisers in the game. However... that doesn't mean it's easy to play. If you don't already have T8 experience and ideally IJN cruiser experience you will have a very rough ride. If you know IJN cruisers this basically does everything you expect, and usually better.

[Kirmin]

Well I couldnt resist so I bought the Atago. I would love to have the Kutuzov too but I dont have any experiance playing russian ships so I chose the Atago. I have played IJN cruisers a lot before (until tier 7) so Im used to the mecanics.

 

 

 

 

 

Played 1 game so far with a 3 skill points captain. :-). I liked the low concealment and the manuverbility. Looks like a tanky cruiser and can heal too. Stayed mostly in a 13-14km range, fired a few salvos than waited to get undetected and positioned my self  better for a new set of salvos. Stayed close to the middle cap point alone most of the game but felt that I could control it. At the last part of the game I moved closer to 11-12km range and repeated the same play style. Used only HE. I was targeted a lot by enemy Des Moines but as long as I kept reasonable distance and angled he couldn't heart me (maybe he played poorly). I was targeted once by a JN CV tier 9 but with defensive AA module he missed with all torps ( I think he was bad). This made me wonder is it worth using defensive AA module or should I change to hydro? At the end I did 69K dmg and felt good. The game was fast so I see potential to do more dmg.

[Quallo_Musto]

Well I couldnt resist so I bought the Atago. I would love to have the Kutuzov too but I dont have any experiance playing russian ships so I chose the Atago. I have played IJN cruisers a lot before (until tier 7) so Im used to the mecanics.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Played 1 game so far with a 3 skill points captain. :-). I liked the low concealment and the manuverbility. Looks like a tanky cruiser and can heal too. Stayed mostly in a 13-14km range, fired a few salvos than waited to get undetected and positioned my self  better for a new set of salvos. Stayed close to the middle cap point alone most of the game but felt that I could control it. At the last part of the game I moved closer to 11-12km range and repeated the same play style. Used only HE. I was targeted a lot by enemy Des Moines but as long as I kept reasonable distance and angled he couldn't heart me (maybe he played poorly). I was targeted once by a JN CV tier 9 but with defensive AA module he missed with all torps ( I think he was bad). This made me wonder is it worth using defensive AA module or should I change to hydro? At the end I did 69K dmg and felt good. The game was fast so I see potential to do more dmg.

 

Congrats on your new ship

[ShinGetsu]

Atago is best used at kiting with the low concealment. If you are top tier, you can "draw aggro" from 2 battleships, and start running away at 12-13km. You launch torps behind you, and spam HE every 20-25 seconds. Atago really can dictates the engagement and that's its greatest strenght. Also you launch so many torps you will almost always be able to hit 2/3 times.

It lacks range when uptiered though. You better be careful when playing in tier 10.

 

I find Kutuzov stronger, but that may be because I like Kutuzov's playstyle more.

[mtm78]

Since there is a offer on Atago at the moment I was considering to buy it, but is it a good ship? difficult to play? if you didnt have a Atago would you buy it again? Pros/cons?

 

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Played 1 game so far with a 3 skill points captain. :-)

 

No, it's not worth it. 

[VC381]

 

 

 

No, it's not worth it. 

 

Myoko experience is enough to be able to Atago very effectively since the ship is very similar while being better in every way. You're also assuming hidden stats=bad stats which is really quite prejudiced. If the guy wanted to spend his money and is having fun with his new ship, who are you to judge him for that?

[mtm78]

Blah?

 

Myoko experience is enough to be able to Atago very effectively since the ship is very similar while being better in every way.

 

Who plays Myoko with 3 point captain?

 

You're also assuming hidden stats=bad stats which is really quite prejudiced.

 

It's YOUR prejudice which makes you think I was looking for PERFORMANCE indicators, perhaps I was looking for EXPERIENCE indicators?

 

If the guy wanted to spend his money and is having fun with his new ship, who are you to judge him for that?

 

The one answering HIS question?

 

 

 

edit: 

 

Lol, actually basically you said the same as me ->

 

However... that doesn't mean it's easy to play. If you don't already have T8 experience and ideally IJN cruiser experience you will have a very rough ride.

 

... since if he had experience with IJN cruisers up to / including tier 8 he would have a higher point captain to put in his Atago. And yes, the is not a nice experience for him, but also not for others on HIS TEAM. 

 

 

 

[RUSSIANBlAS]

I hit Rank 1 in the Atago for the first time in Season 5. It's an excellent ship, one of the best tier for tier ships provided you're willing to learn and adapt.

 

Firstly you'll need a 10 point captain. Get Priority Targeting, Expert Marksman, Superintendent then Concealment Expert. Luxury skills after then would be Adrenaline Rush, Vigilance then Demolition Expert in that order imo.

 

Take Hydro instead of Defensive AA. You use it for DD hunting as they'll try and torp you.

 

The Atago has low DPM but excellent concealment. The 9.1km detection is key to everything. Don't fire for the sake of it as you'll get focused to hell. Instead be observant and help your team focus fire burn BBs or lie undetected until you can get a healthy broadside on a DD. At 10km there is no reason why with practice you can't reliably hit DDs. A good Atago salvo can slap a DD for 5k+ damage, they won't stick around for the second salvo unless they're yolo.

 

Default to HE, AP is good for broadside cruisers at closer ranges but it loses effectiveness when they angle. Unless you're experienced it's often better just to HE them.

 

The torps really lift Atago as they are almost 360 degrees in coverage and with 10km you can area deny or spam things to death. They hit hard so even one hit is going to be nice.

 

When I played Ranked in her I was a fairly bad Cruiser player but I learned as the Season went along. It's an expensive ship to buy granted but it's skill ceiling is one of the highest out there and is pretty rewarding when you get it right.

 

Being a Cruiser however, you'll be punished for mistakes. Use your eyes and WASD keys always. Better to dodge and not have your own guns on target because of your jinxing. 

 

 

[ilDuca]

I don't know what you preferences are in fact of ships but if you like ijn cruisers atago is a very good member of them.

Stealthy,with dangerous torps and great angles to launch them.

Obviously you also have to consider if you are going to play much this game but for 40 euro you get 2500 gold and 30 days of premium with the ship...

If i still haven't her i would buy it! (please check hypothetical correctness i'm not a native speaker)

But im a IJN cruiser lover and tier 8 as first experience can be traumatic.

[mtm78]

Lol this guy crying my answer didn't help, but liking the next answer stating OP needs a 10 point captain. 

 

[VC381]

Lol this guy crying my answer didn't help, but liking the next answer stating OP needs a 10 point captain. 

 

 

Because it's not what you say, it's how you say it, that determines whether people take it positively or not.

[mtm78]

Because it's not what you say, it's how you say it, that determines whether people take it positively or not.

 

You mean your prejudice?

 

 

Seriously man, the message is more important than the packaging. 

 

[Kirmin]

Guys, some of you are just complicating things and making a drama out of it. I asked a question about Atago and I appreciate to keep the discussion about the ship. There can be many reasons why a person puts a 3 points captain on tier 8 ship. In my case its so simple as that I want to train a new captain that I can later used it on other ship. I also used now some free exp so the 3 points captain is now 6 points captain. There is no hidden agenda here, I just played my first game with a 3 points captain. Happy Easter to everyone!

[BaronMannerheim]

Kutuzov is better. Period.

 

If you need specifically an IJN captain trainer, Atago is a good choice and a performing ship as well.

I will not buy it because I own the ARP Takao. Basically it's a typical IJN cruiser with nice HE guns, extremely good Concealement, very nice torpedo arcs (much better than Mogami) and has access to repair consumable, bad armor.

I can't say how much good Atago can be in Ranked Battles, it was a top pic in first seasons but maybe isn't anymore. In Random Mode it's a good choice but you'll face many tierX opponents (in common with all tier8 vessels).

[RUSSIANBlAS]

Kutuzov is better. Period.

 

If you need specifically an IJN captain trainer, Atago is a good choice and a performing ship as well.

I will not buy it because I own the ARP Takao. Basically it's a typical IJN cruiser with nice HE guns, extremely good Concealement, very nice torpedo arcs (much better than Mogami) and has access to repair consumable, bad armor.

I can't say how much good Atago can be in Ranked Battles, it was a top pic in first seasons but maybe isn't anymore. In Random Mode it's a good choice but you'll face many tierX opponents (in common with all tier8 vessels).

 

Kutuzov is far less flexible, had bad concealment, torps are inferior and it's less well rounded. That's my point of view however.

 

Even with the IFHE buffs, Atago is still more than competitive. Kutuzov does the long range HE harassment job excellently and with AFT it can pretty much protect half a team from CVs.

[Nechrom]

What makes the Atago (for me) is the combination of great concealment and great HE shells. Making her both very versatile in that she can do reliable damage to anything and also very easy to disengage with if things get too hot.

Something people fail to mention about the Atago is that she has significantly thicker deck armor than the other tier 8 cruisers enabling her to not be overmatched by heavy BB guns and not get penetrated by any cruiser HE hitting the deck. So she is significantly more tanky than other cruisers when showing bow or stern.

[GeorgeT1012_gt]

I have Arp Takao and it's one of my favorites. I love her ninja playstyle  (you need the concealment skill and upgrade). Gun reload and turn time is ok (skill can help here), accuracy is very good, HE with 4-6k damage per salvo and 20% fire chance is great, AP is also useful and very good at medium to close range. Repair consumable is realy good, you can have decent AA with upgrades and skills (you can handle T8 aircraft attacks when using BFT, AFT and AA mod 2), hydro is also helpful, armor is a real troll for cruisers and low tier battleships and also can hold destroyer and smal caliber cruiser HE. Torpedo arcs and torpedoes themselves are realy awesome (I love the front launchers) and also you can have troll secondaries with 6km range (BFT and AFT don't only increase AA but also secondary capabilities), I actually have got the close quarters expert medal with that ship a couple of times. Maneuverability is also great with 35,5 knots speed and quick rudder shift, upgrades also help that. Basicly Atago is the same as Takao (Atago was a Takao-class cruiser - no need for me to buy Atago ) and she has much better profitability  as regular premium, so Atago is defenately worth it! 

[22cm]

Kutuzov with IFHE  is better now than Atago.

[GeorgeT1012_gt]

Kutuzov with IFHE  is better now than Atago.

 

Well I think this depends on your playstyle. Takao and Atago have better torpedoes, stealth, maneuverability, armor and guns (higher caliber, alpha damage, fire chance and AP penetration). Kutuzov is more like a 'distant warior' with much better AA and gun range; although you can't stealth fire you can still dodge some shells. IFHE may increase the alpha of an HE salvo, but it can never reach the 4-6k HP damage of the Takao-class while also having a high fire chance (typicaly 1-2 salvoes for a fire - sometimes you can even get 2 fires with 1 salvo ) that gives you a realy good damage over time bonus. Kutuzov relies on fast reload and constantly firing at the enemy (at least thats how most people I have met play this ship) that mostly results in beeing detected for a long time, something I can't manage that well in lightly armored ships. Personaly, I dont like long range engagements, I want to get close. I generaly have an agresive playstyle, that's why I stopped the USSR line at Kirov. Takao-class ships fit to my playstyle, with their stealth I can attack and then dissapear, I can even stealth fire torps like a destroyer while having the durability of a heavy cruiser. The smoke screen that Kutuzov has is something intresting, it gives you a good advantage at certain ocasions, but Takao-class have the repair consumable that better suits me.

All in all, which ship is better depends on the player, not the ship itself. If you like brawling and beeing agresive you take a Takao-class, if you like to keep a distance you take Kutuzov.

[VC381]

Not to burst your bubble but Kutuzov is more agile than Atago (better rudder shift and turning circle) and actually brawls fairly well due to this and high volume of AP. That's not to say Atago isn't good, of course it is, but they can overlap in playstyle more than you think.