Update 0.6.4 Feedback - Other Changes

[Sael_]

 

Captains,

 

Please post all feedback regarding any other changes in Update 0.6.4 below in this topic.

 

 

Thank you

 

[mtm78]

TY for finally making 155 Mogami playable again. 

[MorgothBauglyr]

Mogami changes seem decent. Had a couple good games with 155s

 

IJN dd turret traverse buff is not enough to make a difference. It has to be at most a traverse time of 20s per 180° to actually remove the need for expert marksman to keep them on target while turning/evading. This would free up 2 camptain points and make somewhat a difference. As it stands, the change is very minor.

To make IJN dd guns noticably better, the HE damage and fire chance needs to go up back to where it was before 0.5.15. 

 

In summary:

- Improve base turret traverse to at least 180° in 20s. This would eliminate the absolute nessecity of Expert Markman to keep turrets on target when turning the ship.
- Moderately increase rate of fire for T8 and below. (Something like 6s for Kagerou and 6.5s for Akatsuki)
- Reinstate the HE shell damage values from before version 0.5.15
- Reinstate the HE shell fire chance values from before version 0.5.15
- Moderately improve Kagerou's gun range to around 11.5 km so she is between Akatsuki and Yuugumo.

[mtm78]

IJN doesn't need better guns....

 

They need to fix their torpedo's so that German DD's aren't better torpedo boats for instance

 

Not to mention the best DD in the game.. Fletcher. 

[Donar79]

TY for finally making 155 Mogami playable again. 

 

That sounds great ...where can i get further infos what they did exactly...can't find patchnotes

[LetsRockAndRoll]

 

That sounds great ...where can i get further infos what they did exactly...can't find patchnotes

 

Just go to any WoW forum other than this one.

Or here: https://www.reddit.com/r/WorldOfWarships/comments/63uhl7/ship_changes_in_64_from_the_ru_forums_why_wasnt/

 

[Donar79]

 

Just go to any WoW forum other than this one.

Or here: https://www.reddit.com/r/WorldOfWarships/comments/63uhl7/ship_changes_in_64_from_the_ru_forums_why_wasnt/

 

 

Thanks

 

<SMH>

[MorgothBauglyr]

IJN doesn't need better guns....

 

They need to fix their torpedo's so that German DD's aren't better torpedo boats for instance

 

Not to mention the best DD in the game.. Fletcher. 

 

Just buffing the torps is nowhere near enough to make the line competitive

[Z_OnkelE]

The turret rotation for the 155 mm on the Mogami definitely make her more comfortable to play. But still there is one immensely noticeable issue: she is really fragile and, even though I kept about 14 to 15 km range to the next battleship, every once in a while she takes a hit by a BB. These hits are almost every time hits to her citadel, even while heavily angled. This never happened prior to 0.6.3 because it was significantly easier to get out of detection after firing her guns. She still lacks the range on her guns to profit from the increased dispersion.

 

Even though she has decent rudder shift time and speed she needs to rely on island cover because otherwise "correct" angling or evading is just not enough (active) defence against RNG guided single shells flying towards her.

[RedOnly]

Appreciate the possibility to almost mute Gun sound. I've seen is corrected also in the offficial 6.3.1! Txs.

 

But, I'd like to have an additional slider on the right side of the sound Settings, the Mixing one, where you can control the heavy Fx like explosions, and bullet hitting your ship. At the moment they depend only on the Sub Master " Sound FX" that if lowered, to soft them, it also soft all the others.

Thank you in advance.

[mtm78]

Just buffing the torps is nowhere near enough to make the line competitive

 

Alright, better concealment on torps AND having back the old ship concealment advantage with all other DD's with better guns. 

[ekvalisaattori]

 

it seems to me the artillery and torpedo circles on the map do not correspond to the shot (circles more large) for the gearing destroyer

​penandknife

 

[Noobsplatter]

"Nerf" on khaba seems silly.

 

IMO (not saying I`m right though) the following should happen to it:

-Remove heal

-Revert HE buff

-Remove rudder mod.3

 

-Buff range by 2km. 

 

Long range khaba reborn. 

 

Disclaimer, I loved the khaba but I think it has recieved to many silly buffs instead of just balancing it with range and rof. 

[LetsRockAndRoll]

The turret rotation for the 155 mm on the Mogami definitely make her more comfortable to play. But still there is one immensely noticeable issue: she is really fragile and, even though I kept about 14 to 15 km range to the next battleship, every once in a while she takes a hit by a BB. These hits are almost every time hits to her citadel, even while heavily angled. This never happened prior to 0.6.3 because it was significantly easier to get out of detection after firing her guns. She still lacks the range on her guns to profit from the increased dispersion.

 

Even though she has decent rudder shift time and speed she needs to rely on island cover because otherwise "correct" angling or evading is just not enough (active) defence against RNG guided single shells flying towards her.

 

Totally agree, Mogami could still do with a little more love. But given WG's history with her I'm not holding my breath.

Another problem is your captain. To take full advantage of the 155's I'm using IFHE and DE, so it means a respec to progress the line or keep her with this dedicated captain.

.

 

[mtm78]

The turret rotation for the 155 mm on the Mogami definitely make her more comfortable to play. But still there is one immensely noticeable issue: she is really fragile and, even though I kept about 14 to 15 km range to the next battleship, every once in a while she takes a hit by a BB. These hits are almost every time hits to her citadel, even while heavily angled. This never happened prior to 0.6.3 because it was significantly easier to get out of detection after firing her guns. She still lacks the range on her guns to profit from the increased dispersion.

 

Even though she has decent rudder shift time and speed she needs to rely on island cover because otherwise "correct" angling or evading is just not enough (active) defence against RNG guided single shells flying towards her.

 

That's more a CA class issue then just a Mogami issue. Any BB citadels CA's disregarding anging. 

[Z_OnkelE]

That's more a CA class issue then just a Mogami issue. Any BB citadels CA's disregarding anging. 

 

I have not witnessed this issue with any other cruiser as regular as with the Mogami on the PTS now. I felt this was an issue with the deck armour thickness and small increase in distance can make a difference here. Chapayev, Hipper and obviously the Kutuzov have longer ranges to work with. The Atago simply has some kind of troll-ish armour (which can be both pro/con). They all take their surprise-stern-citadel once in a while. But those are less regular occurrences.

 

On the other hand playing 3 battles may have been ill-omened and I have gotten a bad luck streak. The obvious difference between the mentioned T8 cruisers remains the gun range (or a slightly different armour scheme with heal on top) and thus the connection to more frequent hits (though still affected by RNG) didn't seem to be far-fetched.

[mtm78]

If they gave Mogami MK's range I would probably never play MK again unless in a division with a CV where I know my AAA will make a difference. The smoke on MK does not outweigh the beauty and the fun of all those 155mm shells.

 

ps my 2 ( extremely low sample size ) did not see those instant deletion / stray citadels everywhere salvo's, but perhaps I was lucky idk Mogami A hull was always squishy but that was in my belief more the bad rudder shift making dodging hard. And, there weren't 6+ BB's in either of my game's so I actually could angle pretty well and track the BB's who were aiming for me. 

[Z_OnkelE]

If they gave Mogami MK's range I would probably never play MK again

 

It doesn't have to be MK range, i think 1 km would be enough. Better only buff in small steps instead of an all or nothing... oh wait...

 

 

But you got the point.

[TheCinC]

Did the option to have 'national voices' get removed?

Can't find it any more.

I preferred having my captains shout at me in their native language, now even the Russian skippers sound like stuck-up Brits.

[Spunyarn]

Noticed that. There are two drop-down boxes for options, "Voiceover Language" and "Voiceover Modification", and although the Public Test server seems to still have all the options for the former (so you could make them sound like Pirates) it only has "Standard" as an option for the latter rather than that, "National", and all the ARP voices. I know there is a bug with the ARP ships where if you are in one of those everyone sounds like that ship's mental model, so maybe they killed the bug by killing all the voice options but "Standard"?

[LetsRockAndRoll]

If they gave Mogami MK's range I would probably never play MK again unless in a division with a CV where I know my AAA will make a difference. The smoke on MK does not outweigh the beauty and the fun of all those 155mm shells.

 

ps my 2 ( extremely low sample size ) did not see those instant deletion / stray citadels everywhere salvo's, but perhaps I was lucky idk Mogami A hull was always squishy but that was in my belief more the bad rudder shift making dodging hard. And, there weren't 6+ BB's in either of my game's so I actually could angle pretty well and track the BB's who were aiming for me. 

 

I'm probably going to suffer the wrath of the rng gods for this, but my Mogami on PTS has yet to be deleted or take a citadel hit. In fact I was very surprised when I went 1 on 1 with a Neptune at 10/12 km at how little damage I took and how fast he melted. I suppose the true test will be randoms on the live server as most people on PTS just want to patrol the border in a Yamato for some reason.

 

[mtm78]

 

 I had the same encounter with a Neptune, he cought me pretty flat and did 6k salvo but the moment I angled correctly it was <1k. As you say though, I think the guy was a shitter as his aim was terribad and I expect to eat way more dmg facing even EU randoms. 

[atogamer]

uss iowa missouri and montana still need thier citadel lowered

 

[TheCinC]

Noticed that. There are two drop-down boxes for options, "Voiceover Language" and "Voiceover Modification", and although the Public Test server seems to still have all the options for the former (so you could make them sound like Pirates) it only has "Standard" as an option for the latter rather than that, "National", and all the ARP voices. I know there is a bug with the ARP ships where if you are in one of those everyone sounds like that ship's mental model, so maybe they killed the bug by killing all the voice options but "Standard"?

 

I hope not..

[mtm78]

uss iowa missouri and montana still need thier citadel lowered

 

 

Won't happen this patch, think S_O said 6.6.