Spectre__ Beta Tester 109 posts 8,365 battles Report post #1 Posted April 3, 2017 This reminded me the old days of CBT/OBT Well yea pointless thread , but at least we are closing to 50% BB population . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] Nechrom Beta Tester 4,870 posts 10,112 battles Report post #2 Posted April 3, 2017 Absolutely! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TADE] Unfortunate_Son Players 236 posts 29,562 battles Report post #3 Posted April 3, 2017 WG conclusion from both posts: 'There still are too many cruisers.' 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KLUNJ] beercrazy [KLUNJ] Beta Tester 1,509 posts 11,905 battles Report post #4 Posted April 3, 2017 you do realise wg don't get sarcasm and see threads like this as justified reasons to buff bbs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XbodzioXplX Players 6,008 posts 7,043 battles Report post #5 Posted April 3, 2017 WG conclusion from both posts: 'There still are too many cruisers.' Rather "we need to do something with CVs". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] eliastion Players 4,795 posts 12,260 battles Report post #6 Posted April 3, 2017 (edited) WG conclusion from both posts: 'There still are too many cruisers.' No. Their conclusion would be "there are too few cruisers, how can we buff BBs to fix that?" No, seriously, I try to complete the last stage of weekly mission (cruiser required, just had a game with all conditions other than the 200 ribbons met -_- ) and it's really painful compared to either a BB (I'm big, I have big guns, nobody can hurt me) or a torp-based DD (big dumb BBs to hunt everywhere)... Edited April 3, 2017 by eliastion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Culiacan_Mexico Players 2,844 posts 14,993 battles Report post #7 Posted April 3, 2017 No. Their conclusion would be "there are too few cruisers, how can we buff BBs to fix that?" I think you get it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ORSA] P4RDUS Players 380 posts 11,700 battles Report post #8 Posted April 3, 2017 I have uninstalled this crap right after the new stupid update, eventhough i have premium time of 28 days. I will install again in 2 weeks only for league of the sea organisation and probably uninstall later again. As a cruiser and destroyer captain, i think i am not wanted by wargaming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giannisww Players 120 posts 4,619 battles Report post #9 Posted April 3, 2017 I had a game once where it was all bbs in each team 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[XTREM] walter3kurtz Players 1,037 posts 10,829 battles Report post #10 Posted April 3, 2017 I have uninstalled this crap right after the new stupid update, eventhough i have premium time of 28 days. I will install again in 2 weeks only for league of the sea organisation and probably uninstall later again. As a cruiser and destroyer captain, i think i am not wanted by wargaming. How DD captains have a problem with lots of BB in game, I will never understand. And in most cruisers I farm sweet BB tears as well. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Culiacan_Mexico Players 2,844 posts 14,993 battles Report post #11 Posted April 3, 2017 ... DD captains have a problem with lots of BB in game... I am a DD main, lots of BBs is great for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ORSA] P4RDUS Players 380 posts 11,700 battles Report post #12 Posted April 3, 2017 Yes, DDs should love it, if a lot BBs in a match. But if you are not a russian DD than it is a big NO. A BB can hit anything reliably at 10 km. They can do it even at further ranges. But can not say the same for DDs. Your main damage output namely the torpedos are very easy to dodge, not reliable at all, they are simply crap. Good luck if you fire your guns, if you are not russion. They are slow, after armor buff (actually a nerf) they get penetration damage, they lose a lot of speed while turning. They always have to risk the ship to do something and they usually die while trying. They are being punished so hard for trying something, even for caping. Cruisers? You have to keep distance, be a coward. Because a BB can pen you no matter what. All cruisers should do that otherwise you have no chance to survive. Seems totally balanced to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Kenliero Players 2,478 posts 11,195 battles Report post #13 Posted April 3, 2017 WG1: "we need to buff DD's... but how do we do that?" WG2: "Hey. I heard DD players like it. If there are many BB's to kill" WG1: "Ok, so we need to buff BB's, so that we have more of them for DD's to kill?" WG2: "Hmm yeah, that should work... but how do we buff them?" WG1: "Well, I suppose DD players need to find them first, so we need to make BB concealment worse.." WG2: "How do you want to do that?" WG1: "Well... if we increase their weaponrange, they should have worse debuff, right?" WG2; "Yeah, true... let's do that!" 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KLUNJ] bushwacker001 [KLUNJ] Players 2,870 posts Report post #14 Posted April 3, 2017 (edited) Yes, DDs should love it, if a lot BBs in a match. But if you are not a russian DD than it is a big NO. More like a 'big' load of crap. Edited April 3, 2017 by bushwacker001 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FIFO] ilhilh [FIFO] Beta Tester 2,451 posts 7,514 battles Report post #15 Posted April 3, 2017 @ OP - you would do better complaining about how many BBs there were if you were not sat in one yourself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_ramrus_ Weekend Tester, In AlfaTesters 618 posts 10,023 battles Report post #16 Posted April 3, 2017 I do want more BBs in tech tree. Hell, make it double line at t4-6 for RN and USN BBs. I'd be willing to tolerate those BB games if it meant more mid tier BBs to put in my port. There are more BBs lines yet to be implemented into the game than there are in the game. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ParEx Weekend Tester, In AlfaTesters 1,449 posts 7,711 battles Report post #17 Posted April 3, 2017 @ OP - you would do better complaining about how many BBs there were if you were not sat in one yourself. I guess your irony-detector is broken and needs to be readjusted Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Culiacan_Mexico Players 2,844 posts 14,993 battles Report post #18 Posted April 3, 2017 ...Yes, DDs should love it, if a lot BBs in a match. But if you are not a russian DD than it is a big NO. A BB can hit anything reliably at 10 km. They can do it even at further ranges. But can not say the same for DDs. Your main damage output namely the torpedos are very easy to dodge, not reliable at all, they are simply crap... IMO. While Japanese main line DDs are not in a good place right now nor are they easy, I am not sure they are that bad. Almost. For me, the biggest problem with Japanese torpedoes is detection range; and the fact that WG has added so many thing to detect them and the DD. SO says you need to get close and be aggressive, yet WG add lots of things to the game to force you not to be. Lots of BBs means less CA/CL and DDs. So more BBs the better. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ALONE] Smeggo Modder 2,485 posts 15,343 battles Report post #19 Posted April 3, 2017 Well-behaved MM always waits till he finds 4 cruisers. Mostly a poor Hipper. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BUSHI] CuddlyPanda Players 352 posts 3,883 battles Report post #20 Posted April 3, 2017 Behold and be amazed. Gaze your eyes upon the cruiser fleet! (older pic obviously) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThinderChief Players 1,071 posts 31,535 battles Report post #21 Posted April 3, 2017 (edited) IMO. While Japanese main line DDs are not in a good place right now nor are they easy, I am not sure they are that bad. Almost. For me, the biggest problem with Japanese torpedoes is detection range; and the fact that WG has added so many thing to detect them and the DD. SO says you need to get close and be aggressive, yet WG add lots of things to the game to force you not to be. Lots of BBs means less CA/CL and DDs. So more BBs the better. I got my best results with them, it's a question of chosing a ship you can get on with and which allows you to develop the playstyle you want, then gear her up with mods and captain skills. Originally I was very focused on the USN DD line mainly for the aura of their achievements during WWII, i wanted a Fletcher at all cost but guess what? I hate the Fletcher as much as i hated the Atlanta, and personally i hate even the idea of using a radar on a DD. So instead i decided to focuse on learning how to use the Kagero properly, but as far as i'm concerned, it's the end of my love affair with USN DDs or anything remotely geared up as bias gunship... IJN DDs are good. And since it's the right topic, MORE BBs = MORE targets. Edited April 3, 2017 by ThinderChief Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NIKE] Xevious_Red Beta Tester 3,412 posts 7,888 battles Report post #22 Posted April 3, 2017 Been playing the kagero recently, since it can't stealth fire anymore ive changed my play style. Used to sit ~10km away and use torps and stealth fire, I got ok results but nothing marvelous. With no more stealth fire I swapped to a torps 99% option, and sneaked as close as possible. Launching from 5.5km broadside of a target you get a lot more hits. The torps still get spotted early, but that means theres only the reaction time for them to move in, rather than any unfortunate course changes while the torps are enroute. Most tier 8+ BB cant react that quickly and you aim the second volley at where they'll be if the dodge. So for me when in an IJN DD lots of BB = lots of targets and less radar/6 min spotters/HAS. In terms of game balance its out of whack and should he corrected, but for me in an IJN DD its the land of opportunity. Maybe it'll change at tier 9/X I just got the yugamo but its still stock atm. However the tier 8 kagero has been the most fun for me over the last few days 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POI--] dasCKD Quality Poster 2,376 posts 19,148 battles Report post #23 Posted April 3, 2017 Maybe it'll change at tier 9/X I just got the yugamo but its still stock atm. However the tier 8 kagero has been the most fun for me over the last few days Keep the Yuugumo. The Shima is awful. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EmilyFara Players 1,091 posts 2,423 battles Report post #24 Posted April 3, 2017 Weirdly I have seen the same thing as well. 50% BBs in 1 match. The weirdest matchup was only 2 tier 8 BBs and 2 DDs in total in a tier 10 match. Rest were all CA's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
albinbino Players 662 posts 11,080 battles Report post #25 Posted April 3, 2017 Yesterday i had 2 battles in tier 6 where there was no BBs at all, only cruisers and DDs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites