Tier MM

[deadmeat69]

How many are happy with the Tier fighting MM, I for one am getting fed up of joining a game with lets say a tier 7 ship only to find I am against a tier 9, now its not that I only have low tier ships because my ships go up to tier 10 but it seems so unfair for any player to expect to have a fair game when they are so out gunned. Let me know your thoughts, but please remember that not every player is tier 10.

[SV_Kompresor]

It's perfectly fine as it is, except for tier 5 CVs from now on

[Krikkio82]

Voted YES but T5 and T8 MM is such a stupid thing. +2T matches every, I repeat EVERY game, 100%, allways. This is brainless.

 

 

[Nechrom]

If the spread is even, then I don't mind.

Too bad it's not with tier 5 and 6.

[ollonborre]

If the spread is even, then I don't mind.

Too bad it's not with tier 5 and 6.

 

This. +-2 MM is fine, but there has to be a more even spread, especially at tier 5-6.

[Shirakami_Kon]

Since I focused in playing BBs being uptiered is not the end of the world, but seeing how life is for tier 5, 6, or 8 cruisers lately that doesn't exactly encourage me to leave BBs and play cruisers more as I did when I started playing the game (hint hint).

 

I don't think that's the problem though, because at first the game was +2/-2 MM for everyone and it was fine. Even before I started playing it was +3/-3, so problem is not MM but something else.

[Culiacan_Mexico]

...Are you happy fighting against ships that are 2 tiers higher...

Some ships are better than others fighting at -2 tiers.  I feel kind of mixed about the issue.

[xXx_Blogis_xXx]

dont have any problem , so i not rly care

[TheCoolBird]

I'm kind of on the edge on if I like it or not, it really depends on my ship I find. When I was playing the Omaha I was almost constantly against tier 7s, which was just horrible. But in my Cleveland I find my self better equipped to go against some tier 8s. I find battleships suffer less though, while cruisers kind of feel the pain more when up tiered especially in tier 8. Tier doesn't mean everything though, it sometimes is down to the captain of the ship. 

[Krikkio82]

DD suffers the last. Cruisers suffers the most IMO.

If they will one day touch the MM i would suggest that cruisers may need a little help from MM. Not saying Cruisers are UP, just saying +2MM for a cruiser is often too tough and not enjoyable. T5 is worst example Omaha VS Fiji Myoko Nagato Colorado Minsk Gneisenau (even Pensacola is deadly VS omaha) can't do really nothing. Close to useless. 

[Krikkio82]

If I see in a T7 match a friendly Omaha run and stay hidden all match i'm happy. At least he did not gave free points to enemy team. I'm serious. 

[Kruzenstern]

The problem it not the +2 MM in general. but that you get to be the -2 guy almost all the time in the very popular tiers 5, 6 and 8...

[Krikkio82]

The problem it not the +2 MM in general. but that you get to be the -2 guy almost all the time in the very popular tiers 5, 6 and 8...

 

AGREED !!! Not allways in T6 but 4 real every fuc**** time in T8 and 5

[iJoby]

My answer was no, I play T5 T6 Mainly, T5 is ok, but T6 most, games Probably 80% are T8 games, I play the Mexico, slow but powerful ship, great for brawling, but the speed makes this ship  inadequate for T8, and many a time my team are 5-10km ahead of me, this leaves me open to CV and BB abuse, this also means a lot of damage to enemy ships is done before they get in my range (May be better with new range buff), but saying all that, many games played at T8 with the NM, I nearly always finish in the top 3.

 

The Cleveland is a different story, my best ever game 3620 Base XP was in a T8 game, I guess it's swing and roundabouts.

[MoveZig]

I'm okay with it, as long as the MM guarantees that after being uptiered two tiers, the next match you will be top-tier. Better yet, let players choose it as an option. Longer wait vs. being uptiered more.

[txtspeak]

I'm okay with it, as long as the MM guarantees that after being uptiered two tiers, the next match you will be top-tier. Better yet, let players choose it as an option. Longer wait vs. being uptiered more.

 

this right here is why I despise the game WT

They will do ANYTHING to reduce the wait time.

they would cut the gameplay in HALF to reduce the wait time from 5 seconds to 1 second.

and as a result I spent 9/10 games at the bottom of the match in tier.

guess why I quit?

[shockinhockin]

Am prefectly ok with it. Add more variety and various tatics to the gameplay and is a good thing.

 

If this was WOT when you literally can't pen anything and get one shotted then I'd agree with you. But here in WOWS we have HE and Torps ect and even AP still works on higher tier ships so I have no problem enjoying my time whatever tier I play agenst

[RUSSIANBlAS]

It's probably fine as if it was +/-1 then some ships would be pretty powerful. I'm thinking of the Atago specifically but I'm sure there's plenty of others.

 

There's ships that suck for their tier too I guess...

[Admiral_H_Nelson]

Am prefectly ok with it. Add more variety and various tatics to the gameplay and is a good thing.

 

If this was WOT when you literally can't pen anything and get one shotted then I'd agree with you. But here in WOWS we have HE and Torps ect and even AP still works on higher tier ships so I have no problem enjoying my time whatever tier I play agenst

 

Firstly, respect for your ability to cope so well and for being so relaxed about it.   Then I had a thought, and looked at your stats to confirm it.

You are a good player!  Good players CAN cope with being bottom tier better than the average scrub - by definition.

 

I am fine with +2/-2 matchmaking. However like others have said, it gets tiresome when you are bottom tier much more than top tier (and I keep stats to prove that this does indeed happen to me personally).  This drains the fun out of the game for average players who don't have the extra skills of a good player to compensate.

 

I believe that making tiers 5 & 6 such a drag for the average player is not going to help long-term player retention.

[jss78]

I'm not categorically opposed to +2/-2. In general though,  I'd gladly wait a few seconds longer to increase the LIKELIHOOD of getting a +1/-1. You could then use the +2/-2 more often e.g. during quiet hours.

 

But it seems to me that it's WG's paradigm to get the queue time down at any cost.

 

It's a real drag in specific tiers, and most particularly T5, where you so often end up as filler for T5-7 games. It's literally making me play T5 less.

 

Some people make the argument that the +2/-2 MM is desirable for ship diversity. I think with each new ship tree coming out, this is less of a concern.

 

TL;DR: I'm OK with +2/-2 used occasionally, but I'd hope to see a +1/-1 MORE OFTEN.

[txtspeak]

I would NEVER be OK with three tiers spread.

you should only ever face opponents two tiers higher or lower than yourself.

 

+/-3 mm would completely kill the game for so many.

even in rare intervalls when there are few players playing I would prefer that

[jss78]

I would NEVER be OK with three tiers spread.

you should only ever face opponents two tiers higher or lower than yourself.

 

+/-3 mm would completely kill the game for so many.

even in rare intervalls when there are few players playing I would prefer that

 

Edited my post for clarity. What I meant by "three-tier spread" is the current system at T5+, with a maximum of three adjacent tiers in a single game.

[Interceptor_One_EU]

If it were only 1 ship of each class that was 2 Tiers higher, then I'd be ok with it.

 

But allow me to quote my post from another Thread regarding what seems to be on the increase:

 

Last night in my T6 Nurenburg (which I just started in) the enemy Team consisted of:
1 T8 CV

4 T8 BB's and 1 T7 BB
1 T8 CA and 1 T7 CA and 1 T6 CA

1 T7 DD and 2 T6 DD's

This kind of matchup seems to be on the increase (happened in Tier 5 as well), not to mention constantly getting double carriers on the enemy team

(just when you decided to take off AA consumables/flags because you're not getting into any battles where there are planes).

 

This is supposed to be fair matchmaking for a player new to a Tier and not yet enough XP to gain Upgrades?

 

[knuffelchnde]

for me it is pretty annoying: playing 10 battles, I'll be low tier in 9 of them.  I get it, it seems that i'm better than the average player, but it's killing the fun for me. Making damage is so hard, you just feel useless. I mean what can you do with a König against a Gneisenau and Scharnhorst?  I sometimes just want to go off when i see the MM. I mean it's not my problem that other players are noobs. Just give me better players as enemies not only better ships...

[YukiEiriKun]

BB's should get their +3 MM back. Yes, it made divisioning hazardeous and we would get gazillion "OMG FailDivisions" threads, but they were very much plauable even with +3...