HMS Hood Teaser

[Exocet6951]

Well she's been nerfed heavily in her long range AA fire according to Notser so air dropped torps will be a major problem and there's the turret rotation speed... Notser has hinted this could be the trait for RN BBs... As for the upgraded repair of 60%, listen to the small print in Notsers recent review, it's not as good as the Warspite.

 

For me this doesn't feel appealing as the style there seems to be only one style of game play which is very limiting. Keep the enemy 10-15km away and don't brawl. How long before Hood players are accused of yet more camping.

 

Dear WG, give us the post refit Hood!

 

Oh the repair not as good as the Warspite, but still better than everyone else?

How terrible.

 

Oh the defensive AA isn't as good as before, but the UP rockets can still be boosted to x25 their damage with it on, as well as range being able to be boosted using common captain skills and modules? A separate consummable that literally no other BB has?

How terrible.

 

 

As said previously, it's amazing how people are able to turn a positive thing (upgraded repair party) into a negative thing (not as good as Warspite).

[fallenkezef]

 

Oh the repair not as good as the Warspite, but still better than everyone else?

How terrible.

 

Oh the defensive AA isn't as good as before, but the UP rockets can still be boosted to x25 their damage with it on, as well as range being able to be boosted using common captain skills and modules? A separate consummable that literally no other BB has?

How terrible.

 

 

As said previously, it's amazing how people are able to turn a positive thing (upgraded repair party) into a negative thing (not as good as Warspite).

You teally do not like the Brits. Did we invade your country at some point?

[mtm78]

Stop being such a teaboo ffs

 

I wouldn't mind having a post refit Hood... at tier 8  

 

edit: as to people crying; go watch someone good play the ship on Twitch and stop those salty tears. 

 

 

[iFax]

Stop being such a teaboo ffs

 

I wouldn't mind having a post refit Hood... at tier 8  

 

edit: as to people crying; go watch someone good play the ship on Twitch and stop those salty tears. 

 

 

 

I couldn't agree more!

[cro_pwr]

Well she's been nerfed heavily in her long range AA fire according to Notser so air dropped torps will be a major problem and there's the turret rotation speed... Notser has hinted this could be the trait for RN BBs... As for the upgraded repair of 60%, listen to the small print in Notsers recent review, it's not as good as the Warspite.

 

For me this doesn't feel appealing as the style there seems to be only one style of game play which is very limiting. Keep the enemy 10-15km away and don't brawl. How long before Hood players are accused of yet more camping.

 

Dear WG, give us the post refit Hood!

 

Well, first things first. Being 10-15 km away from enemy in a BB IS NOT CAMPING. Its the optimal range for 99% of the BBs in this game. So yea, you should recheck your facts.

Now lets proceed. Hood is tier 7 BB. That means that he has Colorado, Nagato and Gneisenau as a t7 tech tree counterparts. Once again, both Nagato and Colorado work best at 10-15 km, only Gneisenau would like to close the distance to torp you.

Now, I didn't play with or against the Hood, and I don't know how well she will fare against Nagato (will Nagato be able to punch trough Hood and vice versa), but, with this new and improved guns, she will s**t all over Colorado, scoring massive AP salvos wherever she hits allready quite squishy Colorado. (Bayern can pen him even when bow on, Hood will have an even easier time doing so, even when hitting superstructure/deck).  And I belive that with that kind of AP, Hood will score a massive hits on Gneisenau, which is quite a problem to do for Nagato  / Colorado, if Gnei is angled.

Let alone that it will wreck any cruiser she hits, since angling simply won't help you, no matter what CA you are sailing.

All that combined with being t7, aka currently the best tier ATM, that will MOST OF TIME be top tier, and will only meet t9 once in a blue moon, I can't even fathom how the heck do you people think this ship will be weak.

And once again, combine all of that with a great tankines of the ship, and you will have a monster that will hardly ever have a bad game if you aren't complete potato.

[fallenkezef]

Some interesting, for lack of a better term, people here. I find it funny to be called a teaboo while actively arguing AGAINST the stupid bias claims in the whiny brit bias thread

[mtm78]

I couldn't agree more!

 

You do realize the Hood pre buff was already doing excellent in a good players hand? So my comment was not intended to be read like: it was not competitive and needs refit, but that IF people cry about wanting a refit to be implemented in the game she would have to be up tiered as she would be faceroll on tier 7?

 

Well, first things first. Being 10-15 km away from enemy in a BB IS NOT CAMPING. Its the optimal range for 99% of the BBs in this game. So yea, you should recheck your facts.

Now lets proceed. Hood is tier 7 BB. That means that he has Colorado, Nagato and Gneisenau as a t7 tech tree counterparts. Once again, both Nagato and Colorado work best at 10-15 km, only Gneisenau would like to close the distance to torp you.

Now, I didn't play with or against the Hood, and I don't know how well she will fare against Nagato (will Nagato be able to punch trough Hood and vice versa), but, with this new and improved guns, she will s**t all over Colorado, scoring massive AP salvos wherever she hits allready quite squishy Colorado. (Bayern can pen him even when bow on, Hood will have an even easier time doing so, even when hitting superstructure/deck).  And I belive that with that kind of AP, Hood will score a massive hits on Gneisenau, which is quite a problem to do for Nagato  / Colorado, if Gnei is angled.

Let alone that it will wreck any cruiser she hits, since angling simply won't help you, no matter what CA you are sailing.

All that combined with being t7, aka currently the best tier ATM, that will MOST OF TIME be top tier, and will only meet t9 once in a blue moon, I can't even fathom how the heck do you people think this ship will be weak.

And once again, combine all of that with a great tankines of the ship, and you will have a monster that will hardly ever have a bad game if you aren't complete potato.

 

Normalization change is faceroll.. but fuse buff is even more faceroll... make BB AP even more effective against DD's plox WG we need less DD's ok  

 

Some interesting, for lack of a better term, people here. I find it funny to be called a teaboo while actively arguing AGAINST the stupid bias claims in the whiny brit bias thread

 

Yeah, if you think ' anti bias '  is going after the people who are ACTUALLY going against the teaboo bias asking for buffs to ships they haven't even played yet The Brits are the whiny one's here, not the one's pointing out they are prematurely crying and being worse then the wehraboos. 

[fallenkezef]

 

You do realize the Hood pre buff was already doing excellent in a good players hand? So my comment was not intended to be read like: it was not competitive and needs refit, but that IF people cry about wanting a refit to be implemented in the game she would have to be up tiered as she would be faceroll on tier 7?

 

Normalization change is faceroll.. but fuse buff is even more faceroll... make BB AP even more effective against DD's plox WG we need less DD's ok  

 

 

Yeah, if you think ' anti bias '  is going after the people who are ACTUALLY going against the teaboo bias asking for buffs to ships they haven't even played yet The Brits are the whiny one's here, not the one's pointing out they are prematurely crying and being worse then the wehraboos. 

Cone on, every fanboy does that. You should see the Russian and Jerry fanboys on the WT forums. Hype is hype. 

[Exocet6951]

You teally do not like the Brits. Did we invade your country at some point?

 

Some interesting, for lack of a better term, people here. I find it funny to be called a teaboo while actively arguing AGAINST the stupid bias claims in the whiny brit bias thread

 

I just don't enjoy the constant British persecution complex and constant whining on WG forums.

I saw it on WoT, I saw in on WoWP, I saw in on WoWS, it's getting old.

It's unfounded drivel and it gets on my nerves.

 

And this is just yet another damn slap in the face.

A ship performing well prebuff, well within the average, with advantages and disadvantages over the curret tier7 BB roster, with every ST and CC telling us it fits fine at tier7, and that it even performs damn well....aaaand weeks of whining later, still tier7, only with uber buffs.

Yeah, that's really making me giddy alright.

 

[GhostRiderMax123]

Stop being such a teaboo ffs

 

I wouldn't mind having a post refit Hood... at tier 8  

 

edit: as to people crying; go watch someone good play the ship on Twitch and stop those salty tears. 

 

 

 

HMS Vangaurd at tier 8 would be far better........

[fallenkezef]

 

 

I just don't enjoy the constant British persecution complex and constant whining on WG forums.

I saw it on WoT, I saw in on WoWP, I saw in on WoWS, it's getting old.

It's unfounded drivel and it gets on my nerves.

 

And this is just yet another damn slap in the face.

A ship performing well prebuff, well within the average, with advantages and disadvantages over the curret tier7 BB roster, with every ST and CC telling us it fits fine at tier7, and that it even performs damn well....aaaand weeks of whining later, still tier7, only with uber buffs.

Yeah, that's really making me giddy alright.

 

The hardcore whiners are a minority. The lesser speckled teaboys. The great crested teaboys like myself acknowledge our kit was never the best, what makes the British superior is the meat not the metal

[Toivia]

Well she's been nerfed heavily in her long range AA fire according to Notser so air dropped torps will be a major problem and there's the turret rotation speed... Notser has hinted this could be the trait for RN BBs... As for the upgraded repair of 60%, listen to the small print in Notsers recent review, it's not as good as the Warspite.

 

For me this doesn't feel appealing as the style there seems to be only one style of game play which is very limiting. Keep the enemy 10-15km away and don't brawl. How long before Hood players are accused of yet more camping.

 

Dear WG, give us the post refit Hood!

 

Well first, Notser's only been commenting on the changes, he hasn't tried them yet afaik. So the huge nerf he proclaimed on the AA might be a bit too premature. And he still repeatedly stressed how the new AP she'll get will basically make her guns OP (and Lord help us if regular RN BBs get it too). Here as well, I'd rather wait for some replays first (although I feel he's right here).

And crying about the heal is just stupid, it was already a very good tank, now it's even better. It basically should have bad guns with such survivability, not lolpen ones.

 

EDIT: I'm not saying the Hood didn't need any buffs, but it sure as heck doesn't need Warspite heal, lolpen guns, awesome AA and great speed + decent manoeuvrability.

[mtm78]

Cone on, every fanboy does that. You should see the Russian and Jerry fanboys on the WT forums. Hype is hype. 

 

But enough is enough, it's like people who complain that Bismarck should be a tier X because it's the best BB ever built ( I recall reading that on this forum ... ). 

 

HMS Vangaurd at tier 8 would be far better........

 

Wouldn't she be in the tech tree? And WG can mix classes, South Dakota class is tier 8 just as North Carolina class on the USN line

 

edit: also see my previous post, I'm not saying she should be tier 8, just that if the teaboos have their way with buffs she has nowhere else to be than in tier 8. 

 

The hardcore whiners are a minority. The lesser speckled teaboys. The great crested teaboys like myself acknowledge our kit was never the best, what makes the British superior is the meat not the metal

 

With superior you mean; "in need of lots of allies to beat ze Germans" right?

 

 

We all know it was teamwork which won the war, not just Earl Grey no sugar teaboos ;) 

[Exocet6951]

The hardcore whiners are a minority. The lesser speckled teaboys. The great crested teaboys like myself acknowledge our kit was never the best, what makes the British superior is the meat not the metal

 

And I respect that, I even remember your name on the WT as being one of reason.

 

I just don't enjoy the very vocal minority which is constantly present. And I'm not exagerating about the "constantly" part, in the first page of the main "gameplay" section, 3 topics are pages and pages of "British ships weak, insult to RN, pls buff"

 

 

I don't mind reasoned arguments about the Hood, like "well, I think the AP shells have a tendency to shatter a bit, I think a slight buff to the krupp value wouldn't be too much"

What I do mind is "omg Hood looks awful, everything about it screams tier6, downtier now or I won't buy! Disgrace to RN!"

Hell, I've made the first argument, that's mine. The prebuff Hood could have still used some tweaks around her AP shells. 

 

But this buff is just way overboard, and proof that WG would do anything to tap into that "fanboy" market.

That's what they did with the Bismarck, that's what they're doing with the Hood.

 

[iFax]

Who's crying? I sure as hell ain't.

 

Why should it have bad guns? What was so bad about the RN 15" guns?

 

Lastly how do you know it's a very good tank?

[GhostRiderMax123]

 

Wouldn't she be in the tech tree? And WG can mix classes, South Dakota class is tier 8 just as North Carolina class on the USN line

 

edit: also see my previous post, I'm not saying she should be tier 8, just that if the teaboos have their way with buffs she has nowhere else to be than in tier 8. 

 

 

Well HMS Vanguard was the last of the Battleships built. I'd have though that WG would use that as an exsuse to make her a premium and have one of the early Lion class designs or A KGV BB as the tree tier 8.

 

Honestly I'd just like to see how these latest changes will effect the Hood. As long as she is balanced I'm happy. I wouldn't be supprised if she was powerful for her tier though as good premiums sell.

 

 

 

[mtm78]

Who's crying? I sure as hell ain't.

 

Why should it have bad guns? What was so bad about the RN 15" guns?

 

Lastly how do you know it's a very good tank?

 

Bro do you even twitch bro? 

Bad guns my arse. Don't go on what other SAY, go WATCH good players play the ship  

 

I wouldn't be supprised if she was powerful for her tier though as good premiums sell.

 

Well yeah, but broken premiums cause harm due to excess salt from the ships it encounters in her imbalanced broken state. 

[Exocet6951]

Who's crying? I sure as hell ain't.

 

Why should it have bad guns? What was so bad about the RN 15" guns?

 

Lastly how do you know it's a very good tank?

 

First of all, you might not be crying, but 3 topics on the subject doesn't lie. Many people are crying that the Hood is awful and should be tier6.

I even saw more than one person say that she's more of a contemporary to the Kongo,and should be tier5. In all seriousness.

 

Also, it doesn't have bad guns. The AP shells lack of bit of penetration, but that could have easily been worked around. My only concern for her was shells shattering too often. Fix that, and the guns would have been just right.

 

 

To your last point:

 

 

That's pre-buff, so no top kek 60% regular pen repair.

 

Imagine a German BB that can heal 60% of regular penetration damage and has 20% more total HP. Yeah, fun to fight..../sarcasm

[fallenkezef]

What makes me laugh is that the Hood irl was a failure that should not of been built. No kessons learned from the 3 BC's we lost at Jutland

[GhostRiderMax123]

 

Bro do you even twitch bro? 

Bad guns my arse. Don't go on what other SAY, go WATCH good players play the ship  

 

 

Well yeah, but broken premiums cause harm due to excess salt from the ships it encounters in her imbalanced broken state. 

 

True but if premium ships don't sell well then WG would possbily have issues with funding the game or would have to rely on premium items ect.

 

Now I'm not saying that all premiums should be OP......no one wants that but they should at least be balanced ect or have something (non game breaking) that makes them worth getting and playing over other ships. Yes we have the whole xp and money earner thing with premims but should that be the only reason to have a pemium ship? Now thats a question. 

 

Come to think of it this subject really is a tin of worms when it comes down to it but I suppose thats the joy of "free to play" games and premium items WoWS is not the only game with this issue, we just hear more about it because we get to see videos of the ships before they are made avalable to the masses. 

 

 

First of all, you might not be crying, but 3 topics on the subject doesn't lie. Many people are crying that the Hood is awful and should be tier6.

I even saw more than one person say that she's more of a contemporary to the Kongo,and should be tier5. In all seriousness.

 

Also, it doesn't have bad guns. The AP shells lack of bit of penetration, but that could have easily been worked around. My only concern for her was shells shattering too often. Fix that, and the guns would have been just right.

 

 

To your last point:

 

 

That's pre-buff, so no top kek 60% regular pen repair.

 

Imagine a German BB that can heal 60% of regular penetration damage and has 20% more total HP. Yeah, fun to fight..../sarcasm

 

Personally Hood is a tier 7 ship. As to how it performs......I'll wait until I've played a few matches with her before making my mind up on the subject.

 

 

 

[GhostRiderMax123]

What makes me laugh is that the Hood irl was a failure that should not of been built. No kessons learned from the 3 BC's we lost at Jutland

 

The RN did lean some lesons from the three BC's lost at Jutland. They gave the Hood more armor ect. Ultimatly though the reason three BC's were lost had more to do with bad ammo handling and using ships for a role they were not built for. The BC was never really intended to fight in the line of battle with the battleships they were intended to be used in the trade defence role and to hunt down and kill cruisers and to run away from anything bigger. of course that was their inteded use when John "jackie" fisher was in charge. However once he left the Admiralty in 1911 (he did come back in 1914 but left again in 1915) things changed.....one of the changes was the use of the BC's

[mtm78]

The BC was never really intended to fight in the line of battle with the battleships they were intended to be used in the trade defence role and to hunt down and kill cruisers and to run away from anything bigger. of course that was their inteded use when John "jackie" fisher was in charge.

 

qft,

 

Hood should have never been the lead ship engaging Bismarck, it was only done because she was the 'flagship' and because PoW was not in real fighting condition. 

[fallenkezef]

 

qft,

 

Hood should have never been the lead ship engaging Bismarck, it was only done because she was the 'flagship' and because PoW was not in real fighting condition. 

Aue. The Germans had the better idea, smaller guns and more armour for similar speed. The BC's would of been more effective with 12inxh guns and better armour

[44smok]

Um, no one noticed yet this makes Hood defenseless against long torp drops. And it's not like she has the maneuverability to avoid them. A free frag to any half decent CV. Don't even mention Kaga...

[mtm78]

I posted about that in the other thread, 2.1km max range on specced AAA setup... so it basically only counters USN DB's  

 

wait.. 1.5 base + 20% aft + 20% AA range mod right? Not that anyone would spec it for that not when it's still useless.