[TORAZ] Earl_of_Northesk Players 2,447 posts 14,711 battles Report post #576 Posted April 22, 2017 (edited) For you as well I guess? I did think it would be a bit silly if you had to test them with 'stock' captains. "These ships" kinda implies it's not only the contributors ones They all work the same. Edited April 22, 2017 by Earl_of_Northesk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
p3rh4n4 Players 67 posts 9,748 battles Report post #577 Posted April 22, 2017 Buuuuuullsh... We are not using 3 point captains. Thanks for clarifying. I didn't think about it too much, but even if it was 3 points, it wouldn't change my point, you can only know your OWN things like: skill-level, captain points, upgrades, premium consumbales, etc. Fellow teammates & enemies vary alot. First impressions can be missleading for sure. Personal impressions & on a small scale. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puxflacet Players 1,694 posts 3,784 battles Report post #578 Posted April 22, 2017 Maybe but at present I don't think that. I think that she will not be great for a lot of people, but for the ones that do like her tankiness and can play to that, she will probably downright awesome. everyone wanted a flavour. now you have pretty strong one, so enjoy it or spit it 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHATS] Webley_Mark WoWs Wiki Team 12,258 posts 9,770 battles Report post #579 Posted April 22, 2017 None have 3 point captains, Just saying. Oh... If you say so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[P0RT] Admiral_H_Nelson Players 3,938 posts 23,206 battles Report post #580 Posted April 22, 2017 (edited) But HMS Hood, Oh Emm Gee, that is a ship I have been in love with since the 1990s.. Yes, I am that old, thankyouverymuch. You call THAT old? I made my first model of HMS Hood in 1965 (a plastic kit from "Airfix"). Isn't it ironic that the HMS Hood in game appears to be so tanky, when the real life combat history was so horrifyingly and tragically short? Edited April 22, 2017 by Admiral_H_Nelson 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sea_viper Players 240 posts 5,054 battles Report post #581 Posted April 22, 2017 (edited) http://www.navweaps.com/index_inro/INRO_Hood_p3.htm Even under a realistic analysis, Hood would survive much better if the 20 degree turn to port was not executed. To understand how squishy Hood was, you need to show a little bit more broadside. Once shells can punch through the 5 inch and 7 inch belt, Hood will eat tons and tons of damage, even some lucky citadel (like in real life) It is quite funny that both Warspite and Hood end up filling the Tank role. Where Warspite is a heal tank and Hood is a armor tank Edited April 22, 2017 by Sea_viper 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheCinC Quality Poster 1,695 posts 9,500 battles Report post #582 Posted April 22, 2017 You call THAT old? I made my first model of HMS Hood in 1965 (a plastic kit from "Airfix"). Isn't it ironic that the HMS Hood in game appears to be so tanky, when the real life combat history was so horrifyingly and tragically short? Thanks for making me feel a bit less old.. And by the standards of her day, she was well armoured. Too bad she did not go into action until 20 years later, when she was at a disadvantage. One paper design I would admit to being interested in, would be an upgraded HMS Hood. That one might have been able to compete with Bismarck on a much more equal basis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ARRSE] cracktrackflak Weekend Tester 947 posts Report post #583 Posted April 22, 2017 Thanks for making me feel a bit less old.. And by the standards of her day, she was well armoured. Too bad she did not go into action until 20 years later, when she was at a disadvantage. One paper design I would admit to being interested in, would be an upgraded HMS Hood. That one might have been able to compete with Bismarck on a much more equal basis. The long-running comparisons and analysis' of comparative armour are highly theoretical, though. There were too few BB vs BB engagements to generate any quantitative evidence, and the outcomes of BB engagements only demonstrated that ships could be demolished regardless of their armour. E.g. Bismarck is highly mythologised, and this transitions into the way she is presented in the game. In real life, however, when it came to the final gunfight she was knocked out within ten minutes, and failed to even land a hit on her opponents (certainly no sign of those ferocious in-game secondaries....). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HNS] Sonic_157 Players 727 posts 18,131 battles Report post #584 Posted April 22, 2017 Thanks for making me feel a bit less old.. And by the standards of her day, she was well armoured. Too bad she did not go into action until 20 years later, when she was at a disadvantage. One paper design I would admit to being interested in, would be an upgraded HMS Hood. That one might have been able to compete with Bismarck on a much more equal basis. Well, as you probably now, Hood was scheduled for a modernization refit but never made in time. See here for details. If WG ever releases a second BB line with Battlecruiser designs, we may find an "admiral-class" ship at tier 7. This design would be like Hood with A hull and her refit as B hull. Would be cool to see. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
creamgravy Players 2,780 posts 17,292 battles Report post #585 Posted April 22, 2017 certainly no sign of those ferocious in-game secondaries... I'll be knocking out a few of those secondaries when they finally release one of these badboys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheCinC Quality Poster 1,695 posts 9,500 battles Report post #586 Posted April 22, 2017 I'll be knocking out a few of those secondaries when they finally release one of these badboys. Cossack, Zulu, Punjabi? Could use a few more pixels.. To be honest, the night engagement between Bismarck and the DDs only affected the rest Bismarck's crew got, so they were worn out by the time the battle resumed in the morning. Although you gotta give respect to the Piorun, which signalled "I am a Pole" as she was attacking. Not sure if Bismarck's crew ever saw or understood that signal, but that's the spirit! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
creamgravy Players 2,780 posts 17,292 battles Report post #587 Posted April 22, 2017 Although you gotta give respect to the Piorun, which signalled "I am a Pole" as she was attacking. Not sure if Bismarck's crew ever saw or understood that signal, but that's the spirit! We get a Piorun achievement badge too! Can't wait for the campaign. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SLOTH] txtspeak Players 3,041 posts 5,653 battles Report post #588 Posted April 22, 2017 Still need HMS Electra Especially with Hood coming, Electra is a MUST. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheCinC Quality Poster 1,695 posts 9,500 battles Report post #589 Posted April 23, 2017 So it is a grindy campaign for some camos. Well, it is not as if I am going to play (m)any other ships once I've got my hands on HMS Hood, so.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
creamgravy Players 2,780 posts 17,292 battles Report post #590 Posted April 23, 2017 I'm still not 100% sure tbh, the Chinese 0.6.5 ST leak isn't very clear. https://sea-group.org/?p=2798&lang=en One of the missions on the first stage is to cause 60,000 damage with Hood, you need to complete all missions to get Bismark skin etc. It looks like the time limited Spee Campaign. Grind missions = Get Hood free at the end (many will need premium time to achieve this) Buy Hood = Grind those awesome looking skins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheCinC Quality Poster 1,695 posts 9,500 battles Report post #591 Posted April 23, 2017 I'm still not 100% sure tbh, the Chinese 0.6.5 ST leak isn't very clear. https://sea-group.org/?p=2798&lang=en One of the missions on the first stage is to cause 60,000 damage with Hood, you need to complete all missions to get Bismark skin etc. It looks like the time limited Spee Campaign. Grind missions = Get Hood free at the end (many will need premium time to achieve this) Buy Hood = Grind those awesome looking skins. I haven't seen anything yet about getting HMS Hood for free. Like I said, not bloody likely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tajj7 Beta Tester 1,210 posts 1,486 battles Report post #592 Posted April 23, 2017 Giving away such an iconic ship for free was always unlikely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
creamgravy Players 2,780 posts 17,292 battles Report post #593 Posted April 23, 2017 It's exactly like the Hunt for Graf Spee campaign with time locked missions > http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:The_Hunt_for_Graf_Spee I'm 100% certain you'll get Hood for free at the end ...but It looks a harder grind. The 'use Spee/Hood to do X' missions seem to be contained within the main campaign line, so there'll be no repeat of the mess from last time. These Hood specific missions are super easy though. 'Be in the top 5 XP earners 2 times', 'do 60,000 damage', 'Hit 3 citadels' etc. Only people that buy Hood will be able to unlock/grind the new Bismarck model and maybe the other 3 we haven't seen yet. Hood”The old birds”Skin sounds like the wreck version too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #594 Posted April 23, 2017 (edited) It is free in WG term. That means a lot of grind to get it or just buy it if you cannot suffer the grind. Edited April 23, 2017 by Darth_Glorious Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheCinC Quality Poster 1,695 posts 9,500 battles Report post #595 Posted April 23, 2017 Hood”The old birds”Skin sounds like the wreck version too. What? Broken in two? So you can pretend to have been sunk and then.. Ha-ha! Sneak attack! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puxflacet Players 1,694 posts 3,784 battles Report post #596 Posted April 23, 2017 what is this? penalty for pink players? ewww...gross Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_DeathWing_ Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 2,625 posts 9,867 battles Report post #597 Posted April 23, 2017 what is this? penalty for pink players? ewww...gross It's beaten up Bismarck camo/skin for the upcoming campaign. You have it on reddit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giannisww Players 120 posts 4,619 battles Report post #598 Posted April 23, 2017 That camo looks cool Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DD445] KurtVonSteiger Weekend Tester 382 posts 38,087 battles Report post #599 Posted April 23, 2017 So, No life other than grind for some of us then? (provided HMS Hood is the pot of gold at the end of it) :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] G01ngToxicCommand0 Beta Tester 2,177 posts 23,318 battles Report post #600 Posted April 23, 2017 (edited) It's beaten up Bismarck camo/skin for the upcoming campaign. You have it on reddit. It looks like she has just been pulled from the bottom of the Atlantic and is in the present state of preservation. I wonder how the special camo for Hood will look like - a broken hull in 3 pieces? I can't see myself playing with a ship that looks like a wreck but it would be nice if that is how damage on ships in WoWS would look like when taking damage. Edited April 23, 2017 by atomskytten Share this post Link to post Share on other sites