HMS Hood Teaser

[Sea_viper]

 

It should have at least 65,000 hit points though, probably closer to 70,000 hit points, and the armour isn't that bad, essentially the same as Warspite, and unlike Warspite, it shouldn't have the unhistorical extended citadel not protected by the belt. Plus it will go at least 28 knots, hopefully they give it the full 31 knots. When talking about ingame gun accuracy, historical accuracy is usually irelavent, German battleships historically were accurate, but ingame they suck. 

The armor is not like the Warspite... The Citadel is as tall as the 12inch belt above water. With a 2inch turtle back of 30 degree from vertical (which is useless againt anything but splinters) it actually create a big weakness where shells pass the 7inch belt and 2inch slope into citaadel... even the under water protection is not better... Not to mention the ship is HUGE. Basically it have some spectacular potential of being one shot at any range like IRL. 

The armor acheme is so problematic that they realise it around 1920s... looking at the damage in Jutland(1914), even some of the 11inch and 12inch WW1 vintage German shells could reach the boiler room of Hood at Jutland ranges...

[Unintentional_submarine]

 

no, because AFAIK Captain john leach did not refer to PoW as a male, captain lindemann DID want Bismarck referred to as male

 

wrong again mein freund (according to this source)

http://www.kbismarck.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=55

here, have a look at this.

 

The captain of a ship has no control over how a ship is officially named. Captain Lindemann went against both protocol and tradition, so no wonder that Baron von Müllenheim-Rechberg slipped up, despite striving to honour his late captain. He used male, not because it was the correct thing, but in honour of someone he respected. What Lindemann did was an outlier and only really applicable to situations where the man himself was present.

 

 

 

If HMS Hood will get the armor of the mentioned ships then it's okay. I just hope we don't get an armor like Mutsu or any cruiser level armor.

 

Most likely better. Though she will lack the bow armour of three of those (only Amagi doesn't have a protected bow). And with the tapering armour up to the deck she will be quite nicely protected from smaller caliber guns, and be able to bounce a lot of shots when angled.

She will most likely be quite vulnerable when showing broadside, due to her length, but she will not be particularly vulnerable overall.

[txtspeak]

 

The captain of a ship has no control over how a ship is officially named. Captain Lindemann went against both protocol and tradition, so no wonder that Baron von Müllenheim-Rechberg slipped up, despite striving to honour his late captain. He used male, not because it was the correct thing, but in honour of someone he respected. What Lindemann did was an outlier and only really applicable to situations where the man himself was present.

I'm a hipster, so f*ck tradition and protocal XD

[Gojuadorai]

Is this source not reliable?

 

sry im german and its "die(female) Bismarck"

the only case where you have male gender  (i right now can think of ) would be is you  write about a ship class that is male "der(m) schlachtkeuzer Bismarck"

(wich would be battelcruiser, "das(n) schlachtschiff [battleship] Bismarck" is neutral)

 

as for the source it confuses me pretty much but unintentional sub seems to have a good explanation

 

[EDIT] german wiki entry  just for some backup https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bismarck_(Schiff,_1939)

 

[txtspeak]

 

sry im german and its "die(female) Bismarck"

the only case where you have male gender  (i right now can think of ) would be is you  write about a ship class that is male "der(m) schlachtkeuzer Bismarck"

(wich would be battelcruiser, "das(n) schlachtschiff [battleship] Bismarck" is neutral)

 

as for the source it confuses me pretty much but unintentional sub seems to have a good explanation

 

[Webley_Mark]

Logic? I don't know that pokémon.

 

[Aotearas]

 

ships in german are female 

so its:

die(f) Bismarck -> she

it also is:

die(f) Friedrich der(m) Große 

 

Let's not open that can of worms and talk about German pronouns. That matter is complicated.

 

If we'd talk about the given names only, then female is correct. If we're talking about the ship and its class then the class takes priority in choosing the pronoun and then it's neutral ("das Schlachtschiff") or male ("der Kreuzer") but never female (nevermind, there are female class pronouns "die Fregatte/die Korvette" ... I somehow forgot about those).

 

Just German things. We build our language like we build our tanks: overengineered, complex, prone to breakdowns and maintenance heavy.

[Admiral_H_Nelson]

Just German things. We build our language like we build our tanks: overengineered, complex, prone to breakdowns and maintenance heavy.

 

At least the German language is a real one - unlike the cobbled together mixture that makes up English.

German can import words from other languages, but AFAIK they still have to obey the rules.

 

English is all over the place! Sometimes it is simplified to the point of being dumbed-down (moronic even). Other times it is insanely complicated with subtle shades of meaning that even native speakers don't understand. Double meanings are everywhere, and you can make stupid jokes with it. e.g "For Sale: Electronic Mouse Trap" - Response: "No use to me. My house doesn't have any electronic mice that need catching".   This would never happen with some other languages. It would be quite clear that "Electronic" could only refer to the trap.

 

Sorry to go OT but I couldn't resist - the connection between the German and English languages is something that has interested me for a long time. Sadly, whenever there are similarities, it seems that English always has the dumbed-down version.

 

[Unintentional_submarine]

Don't feel bad about that.

In fact that is probably why English is relatively easy to get into in the first place. And then there is the large vocabulary. I mean it is crazy how many words you have that specify little nuances of things, where in many other languages we have to structure long sentences, that invariably come out as incredibly heavy and cumbersome, or downright feels a bit wrong. It isn't unusual for me to say to someone when I talk to them "hmm... In English they have this nice word, *the word*, for it. It seems to apply so well." Take a look at some user manual and look over the length and number of words used, usually English has less words used than most. Not always of course, but overall.

[Cosseria]

Well, personally I like German a lot for its ability to merge words into one: I mean, in which other language you can get things like"Electric seat heating fuse" into one single word?

BREMSFLÜSSIGKEITKONTAKTSCHALTER rulez.

[Phlogistoned]

Well, personally I like German a lot for its ability to merge words into one: I mean, in which other language you can get things like"Electric seat heating fuse" into one single word?

Swedish.  Here's  one for Google Translate to bite into; Hårdvaruinkompatibilitetsfel 

[piritskenyer]

Can you guys stop talking about language now? I mean it was fun and all, but... call the ship it and be done with it.

[Bismarck_chan]

I take a bit of a hiatus and nearly miss this??? GIMME NOW WG! HEFF ALL MY POUND STERLING/MONIEZ!!

 

 

Let's not open that can of worms and talk about German pronouns. That matter is complicated.

It's at times like these where we have to be glad that there wasn't a bigger Finnish Navy.

 

 

[RaptorWildfire]

Does this HMS HOOD comes with perk of implosion when hit by a BISMARCK shell?)

[Gnirf]

 

To me, she is the worst battleship of its tier, the best beign the Arizona. Fuso, New Mex and Bayern are all better.

 

Heretic!

 

 

To be serious I have them all, i think that the term worst is wrong, the others (Bayern I am not so found of , German dispersion) are good and easy to perform with but I like my Warspite, I do not care if the others are better in your opinion I play these ships a lot all of them. I even have Dunkerque which I think is the worst T6 BB, but gives a unique playstyle. I would say that they all are good but some are better, and it also has a lot to do with MM but all struggle at T8, large maps slow speed.

 

 

[G01ngToxicCommand0]

 

Heretic!

 

 

To be serious I have them all, i think that the term worst is wrong, the others (Bayern I am not so found of , German dispersion) are good and easy to perform with but I like my Warspite, I do not care if the others are better in your opinion I play these ships a lot all of them. I even have Dunkerque which I think is the worst T6 BB, but gives a unique playstyle. I would say that they all are good but some are better, and it also has a lot to do with MM but all struggle at T8, large maps slow speed.

 

 

 

There are no 'bad' BB at tier 6 IMO, they all have their strengths and weaknesses but none have so glaring weaknesses that they can be considered bad.

[DreadArchangel]

Again with torpedoes? 

Then allow me this:

 

 

 

Yes it had 2 under the waterline on each side.

[DreadArchangel]

I don't like battlecruisers cuz they can't play like battleships due to lack of armor. They don't have real place in the game.

 

ROFLMAO.

[Blitzkrieguk]

Yes it had 2 under the waterline on each side.

 

Actually these were above water torpedo's. 

[Comrad_StaIin]

Yes it had 2 under the waterline on each side.

 

looks above water to me

[Babykim]

 

Heretic!

 

 

To be serious I have them all, i think that the term worst is wrong, the others (Bayern I am not so found of , German dispersion) are good and easy to perform with but I like my Warspite, I do not care if the others are better in your opinion I play these ships a lot all of them. I even have Dunkerque which I think is the worst T6 BB, but gives a unique playstyle. I would say that they all are good but some are better, and it also has a lot to do with MM but all struggle at T8, large maps slow speed.

 

 

 

Well, tastes differ then. I actually like the Dunkerque a lot!

[Affeks]

 

Well, tastes differ then. I actually like the Dunkerque a lot!

 

Not only do I like Dunkerque, I also think its one of the better tier 6 BBs. The speed it has far outweighs the lack of broadside armor thickness. I mean if you show broadside you get punished in any BB anyways, so if you manage to work around that (and its easy with the high speed) then Dunkek is really good and plays in higher tiers much better than the slow USN BBs imo

[GhostRiderMax123]

 

New feature: any shell from a Bismarck that scores a penetration on Hood will cause an instant detonation, regardless of Juliet Charlie flags. 

 

Personally I take issue with all this whole "Hood detonation" thing......just remember the very large loss of life when the Hood went down. I know its all done as a bit of a joke and that noting is meant by it but still people died.

 

I'm not going to go as far as to say that those who keep bringing this up should be ashamed of themselves but the least that could be done is to show some respect for the dead. 

 

Anyhow I'm looking forward to having the Mighty Hood in my port

[Aotearas]

 

Personally I take issue with all this whole "Hood detonation" thing......just remember the very large loss of life when the Hood went down. I know its all done as a bit of a joke and that noting is meant by it but still people died.

 

I'm not going to go as far as to say that those who keep bringing this up should be ashamed of themselves but the least that could be done is to show some respect for the dead. 

 

Anyhow I'm looking forward to having the Mighty Hood in my port

 

I find it a wee bit hypocritical to cite the sanctity of life and respect for the dead against making jokes about detonating the Hood, whilst gleefully mentioning of having the ship in port.

 

Because unless you'd buy it just to look at it in the port, playing it would mean her sinking every now and then, with all the implied loss of crew over and over. You'd be diluting the memory of the ship with that just as much as those joking about ingame detonations, just by superficially different means.

 

 

History is as much about respect as it is about acceptance. Things happened and all we can do about that is remember. The only disrespect would be to misrepresent, deny or outright falsify history and denounce the courage of those sailors that fought and died. No one's doing that here, so there's no harm done.

[GhostRiderMax123]

 

I find it a wee bit hypocritical to cite the sanctity of life and respect for the dead against making jokes about detonating the Hood, whilst gleefully mentioning of having the ship in port.

 

Because unless you'd buy it just to look at it in the port, playing it would mean her sinking every now and then, with all the implied loss of crew over and over. You'd be diluting the memory of the ship with that just as much as those joking about ingame detonations, just by superficially different means.

 

 

History is as much about respect as it is about acceptance. Things happened and all we can do about that is remember. The only disrespect would be to misrepresent, deny or outright falsify history and denounce the courage of those sailors that fought and died. No one's doing that here, so there's no harm done.

 

While I can understand were you are coming from the Hood in game (when it arrives) is not "real" and when the in game Hood is sunk there will be no large loss of life, unlike the events that unfolded on the real HMS Hood on that fateful day.

 

Yes I understand that that what I said could be regarded as a little hypocritical but regardless of that when the Hood arrives in game I will sail it with pride and as a mark of respect for her crew. I can say the same for my Bismarck and Yamato. 

 

Lastly I feel as if I should explain the reason for my original post. Every time I see a topic with regards to HMS Hood regardless of if it is on this forum or any other at least one person (sometimes more) always brings up Bismarck and detonations in such a way that some people may just take offense. Now don't get me wrong I am quite prepared to be offended this is the internet after all and I also understand that most of the time it's done with "tongue in cheek" and that very little if anything is meant by it but when you see it mentioned several times in one thread or mentioned every time the Hood is mentioned, well one cant help but get a little annoyed with it.

 

Personally I like to make a point of not making jokes about such things regardless of how it may be interpreted.