[SPAM-] Youti_God_of_Pantsu Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 3,020 posts 40,532 battles Report post #76 Posted March 28, 2017 You want stats of hood https://sea-group.org/?p=2586&lang=en Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SmartassNoob Players 723 posts 5,774 battles Report post #77 Posted March 28, 2017 That listed "historical data as of 1940" is BS. It claims that it could do 31 knots, but really it could only do 28ish. Also, your source claims that it will have no torpedoes in the game. And what exactly does "Maximum speed Section 32" mean? According to your source: "Firing range 17.57 meters"? Really? The main guns will shoot to a whole 17 and a half meters? At least it confirms rocket launchers at 1.5 km, which means that Hood is invincible to HE bombers, but not to torpedo bombers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UTW] ShinGetsu Weekend Tester, In AlfaTesters 8,985 posts 7,359 battles Report post #78 Posted March 28, 2017 The stats are acceptable, though the guns are pretty awful in term of rotation (enjoy 60seconds) and velocity (731.5m/s), but... WHY THE FREAKING AA BARRAGE ? WTF WG ? I so f*cking KNEW they would do it at one point... I KNEW they would be this stupid... Why am I even surprised ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHATS] Webley_Mark WoWs Wiki Team 12,258 posts 9,688 battles Report post #79 Posted March 28, 2017 (edited) You want stats of hood https://sea-group.org/?p=2586&lang=en Damn it... I was too slow! Too bad the ship doesn"t have the Warspite Repair Party. But, we have the defensive fire AA. That listed "historical data as of 1940" is BS. It claims that it could do 31 knots, but really it could only do 28ish. The Hood managed to reach 32 knots during her trial. Her 28 knots were only done during her last days. Edited March 28, 2017 by Webley_Mark Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SmartassNoob Players 723 posts 5,774 battles Report post #80 Posted March 28, 2017 And were those trials in 1940? No! And when were those last days? And why exactly is defensive AA fire a good thing on a BB that already carries multiple rocket launchers that due to their extra short range will likely be super powerful? Those few torpedo launchers would have been a way better option to increase the combat effectiveness. Or is it that they decided to make the rockets only fire when they're activated as a consumable? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHATS] Webley_Mark WoWs Wiki Team 12,258 posts 9,688 battles Report post #81 Posted March 28, 2017 And when were those last days? Well... 1940's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #82 Posted March 28, 2017 The stats are acceptable, though the guns are pretty awful in term of rotation (enjoy 60seconds) and velocity (731.5m/s), but... WHY THE FREAKING AA BARRAGE ? WTF WG ? I so f*cking KNEW they would do it at one point... I KNEW they would be this stupid... Why am I even surprised ? I predicted the Defensive AA consummable Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHATS] Webley_Mark WoWs Wiki Team 12,258 posts 9,688 battles Report post #83 Posted March 28, 2017 I predicted the Defensive AA consummable Me too! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuccaneerBill Players 513 posts 11,276 battles Report post #84 Posted March 28, 2017 Lol also says its Mk XXIIB shells which I thought she couldn't fire. Plus 910m turning circle and only 16% torp damage protection? Thought torp protection would be better with her crushing tubes. 1.8 sigma is truly sad though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuccaneerBill Players 513 posts 11,276 battles Report post #85 Posted March 28, 2017 (edited) Tbf looking at her state, Hoods gonna need that def AA!! Huge, large turning circle, no torp defence, poor AA. Edited March 28, 2017 by BuccaneerBill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #86 Posted March 28, 2017 Look like RN BB trait is better shell ricochet angle. So KGV with 14 inches guns can be at tier 8 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FK] Combat_Hamster Players 438 posts 33,869 battles Report post #87 Posted March 28, 2017 The slow turret traverse you can sort of live with on Warspite, but not on a ship with a 910m turning circle......reminds me of original Yorck...and why no TT when Mutsu has them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuccaneerBill Players 513 posts 11,276 battles Report post #88 Posted March 28, 2017 Not really. The game is so unrealistic in the way it represents armour that any big ship, BB or BC, would be the same: show broadside=deleted, angle=safe. Having said that, I think BCs are very cool and would love a full line of them, they would still have a unique feel due to their combination of speed and armament, although the line would be really blurred at the higher tiers (see Amagi, Iowa). Having said THAT, you guys need to stop dreaming about this RN BC line. Realistically, it won't come for years if at all, so save yourselves the disappointment and accept we will be getting a BB line, probably not mixed (except maybe to fill out one of the top tiers) and we maybe, just maybe, might get another premium besides Hood. Going with the one line assumption, G3 (with fictional AA upgrades) would make a possible T9 with Lion as T10 so as not to use two different Lion class proposals. Well with BCs weaker armour, even more so, especially if they raise the cit for them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHATS] Webley_Mark WoWs Wiki Team 12,258 posts 9,688 battles Report post #89 Posted March 28, 2017 and why no TT when Mutsu has them? Because they are fix one - WG 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhostRiderMax123 ∞ Players 769 posts 3,782 battles Report post #90 Posted March 28, 2017 You want stats of hood https://sea-group.org/?p=2586&lang=en How accurate is this? Should we trust that these will be the Hood's in game stats or is this an assumption of the Hood's in game stats? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #91 Posted March 29, 2017 (edited) They did it. They gave a BB Def AA. Jesus f Christ... Though to be fair her AA is thoroughly lacking otherwise. She's at best gonna be a nuisance to CVs, nothing more. (Assuming this is accurate ofc) Edited March 29, 2017 by El2aZeR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #92 Posted March 29, 2017 The stats are acceptable, though the guns are pretty awful in term of rotation (enjoy 60seconds) and velocity (731.5m/s), but... WHY THE FREAKING AA BARRAGE ? WTF WG ? I so f*cking KNEW they would do it at one point... I KNEW they would be this stupid... Why am I even surprised ? Hey be happy it's not on a Russian BB. Although it opens the door now for other BB with Defensive AA... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #93 Posted March 29, 2017 How accurate is this? Should we trust that these will be the Hood's in game stats or is this an assumption of the Hood's in game stats? Those stats are accurate, at least for now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zepheris_ Beta Tester 168 posts 2,587 battles Report post #94 Posted March 29, 2017 Whoop Whoop, It's on my shopping list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
creamgravy Players 2,780 posts 17,292 battles Report post #95 Posted March 29, 2017 It'll be fun to yolo Hood in a tier 8 DD or cruiser. 8 slow guns, 1.8 sigma, useless secondaries and no torpedoes. Though to be fair her AA is thoroughly lacking otherwise. She's at best gonna be a nuisance to CVs, nothing more. Na, you'll melt T7 squads at range with most AA builds and defensive fire. Fun and engaging for the CV player and totally historic too. Hood vs Hiryu A6M5c planes DPM Stock range (km) Max range (km) Stock BFT mAA BFT + mAA Stock + dAAF mAA + dAAF Max + dAAF 102 mm/45 Mk XIX 66.5 5 7.2 6.42% 7.71% 9.88% 11.86% 19.27% 29.65% 35.57% 40 mm Vickers 2-pdr. Mk VIII 59.3 2.5 3.6 12.15% 14.58% 15.60% 18.73% 36.44% 46.81% 56.18% 178mm rockets (not inc dAAF) 50.0 1.5 2.2 16.98% 20.37% 20.43% 24.52% 41.27% 51.64% 61.97% 12.7 mm Mk III 8.8 1.2 1.7 17.83% 21.39% 21.28% 25.54% 42.12% 52.49% 62.99% A 30% chance to shoot down planes every second at 7.2km = RIP CV squads. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sea_viper Players 240 posts 5,054 battles Report post #96 Posted March 29, 2017 Umm... nah, its not that bad.. Atleast it is not Cleveland/Alanta bad Oh a more serious note, with that turning radius and length, a CV should be able to plant 1~2 torps even under dAA, eventhough that would mean pay one squad in and one squad out giving that she doesn't start turning really early. (Which is likely... you see... that Citadel size~) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLOBS] Spellfire40 Beta Tester 5,330 posts 13,776 battles Report post #97 Posted March 29, 2017 Tbf looking at her state, Hoods gonna need that def AA!! Huge, large turning circle, no torp defence, poor AA. No BB need Def AA. Imperator and Mutsu can do just fine with a weakness.its that German BBs need hydro BS all over again.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
creamgravy Players 2,780 posts 17,292 battles Report post #98 Posted March 29, 2017 a CV should be able to plant 1~2 torps even under dAA, I wouldn't expect any bombers to stay alive long enough to drop on a Hood with AFT and mAA. Maybe 1 or 2 Siapan Douglas AD1s? We're talking Flint/Atlanta levels of long range AA here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CPC] Psychocouac Alpha Tester 390 posts 7,502 battles Report post #99 Posted March 29, 2017 The Hood. The only BB that CV will autodrop torps and not manual. With that lenght and turning radius you'll stay less in the AA bubble and lose less planes (maybe). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sea_viper Players 240 posts 5,054 battles Report post #100 Posted March 29, 2017 Actually, I think the correct implementation is to have dAA only applied to UP, in this way the panic range is 2.2km Max, with no bouns to 102mm guns... what will happen is that any CV can set their maual drop well before planes get paniced... which will correctly reflect the absolute uselessness of UP (I doublt it can panic auto torp drop too!) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites