HMS Hood (1940 version) inbound as T7 Premium BB

[VC381]

Anyhow back on point as hood carries very similar guns and turrets as the warspite does. Should we expect the same range and awesomely slow turret traverse?

 

I hope not as ship with hoods speed but with warspites turret rotation speed may well be rather frustrating as I'm guessing with hoods armour that mobility will be your friend to survive. So you probably won't ever be able to point the guns at anything useful.

 

Thoughts ?

 

I expect the same shells (so penetration, damage etc) and turret traverse as Warspite but more range. Speed does not make slow turret traverse frustrating, tight turning does. Hood is going to have a huge turning circle due to her length, dodging won't be a big thing. Her armour is nothing to sneeze at, especially at the artificially short battle ranges in game; her weakness was to long range fire, while her belt is equivalent in overall protection to Nagato (in fact better due to the way it's angled) and her citadel would be very low, almost completely below the waterline. Her turrets all have excellent arcs of fire, her "friend to survive" will be angling just like every other BB.

[Hans_the_Hawk]

Super happy about Hood coming into game at the predicted by many Tier 7 premium.

 

Still find it hard to believe that some people think the KGV class will be tier 7 in the tech tree, it won't be.

KGV class will be with its contemporaries at tier 8 (Bismark, Roma, North Carolina) either with 4,2,4 14"s or 3x3 15"s

 

It is possible that one or two of the class will appear as tier 7 premiums at some stage, if so they will def have the 4,2,4 14"s and some other nerfs required as otherwise it'll be OP at 7.

 

This has been discussed at length before in two other threads.

[FluffyRedFox]

I'm throwing money at the screen but its not appearing in my port 

Hopefully this means that Brit BBs aren't too far behind French cruisers.

 

[Blue_sonic98]

Can the players use her naval rockets?

[Listy]

Bet those AA rockets are gonna be hilariously OP.

[...]

"Permanently panics squadrons within your AA bubble"

 

Your sarcasm has a point...

 

A plane that is dodging an floater mine isn't concentrating on getting its attack off, and thus the scatter of the attack is higher. So maybe a higher panic generation on attacking aircraft for a period (IE: the duration of the mine descending).

Plus you're attacking Mighty Hood, and she's got a bit of a name for herself...

[Dazo_2015]

 

Zerra has uploaded a you tube video stating that HMS Hood will be released as a Premium Tier 7 Fast Battleship. In reality, with the outbreak of the war the refit/conversion of HMS Hood to a fast battleship was canceled.

 

In 1940 however the Hood was given modifications (suppose) to upgrade her to bring her in line with modern capital ships but the job was rushed, incomplete and therefore 'sub-par'

 

Maybe wargaming will give us a version of HMS Hood as she SHOULD have been modified.

 

We all know the Stern deck and Amidships were not fully uparmoured, and was the reason why she blew up. (the forward magazine were much better protected than the after magazines)

 

Zerra seemed very impressed with the Hoods  Anti Aircraft rockets. (The UP mountings) In reality they were not very effective and they were problematic. Attacking pilots could see the rocket barrage coming so simply broke off their attack and avoided them entirely.

 

Any of the Hoods crew on the foredeck had to duck quickly or they would get hit in the face as the ship sailed through its own barrage. The most exposed crew (who were now ducking for cover) were of course the ships AA gunners. This gave any following enemy aircraft a much easier attack run. UP mountings also had a slower reload than AA guns.

 

However, in the game we don't have any crew to worry about and Aircraft don't break off their attack runs just because the pilot can see an AA barrage incoming. Attacking planes just continue their attack run, hit or miss.

 

If this were the case, then the UP mountings (in game) would work how they were envisioned to work, not how they actually worked and this would give HMS Hood the 'KILLER 100 AA' that Zerra described in his video.

 

Also Kalorn, in his talk with Earl Grey about British Battleships suggested that both HMS Hood and HMS Vanguard should (in game) have the Supercharges that their 15 inch guns could have been equipped with but did not have in real life.

 

Wargaming have already given HMS Hood its upgraded engines of 150,000 shaft Horse power.

 

So, if Hood also has:

1)Supercharges for its 15 inch guns,

2)Fully upgraded deck armour,

3)and AA Rockets that work how they SHOULD have worked instead of how they actually worked...........

 

Then HMS Hood would truly be a magnificent Tier 7 ship and worthy of the Moniker, "The Mighty Hood".    I cant wait to play her.   

 

As post script, Kalron also suggested that KGV be a Tier 8 BB and be armed with the 9 x 15 inch guns that it could have been equipped with, and put Duke of York with 10 x 14 inch guns as a Tier 7 premium.

 

(presumably so it could fight Scharnorst like it did in real life.)

 

The KGVs were going to be given 12 x 14 inch guns but the number was dropped to 10 guns to save weight.

 

I would like to see more options for the KGV class for example, a stock ship having 10 x 14 inch guns and having the option of upgrading to either 9 x 15 inch OR 12 x 14 inch guns (with the guns rate of fire being what it was meant to be, not what it actually was in real life.)

 

In reality the quad turrets jammed when run at a high rate of fire so they had to slow them down. Long reload time and only 14 inch guns is why so many people say KGV does not deserve to be Tier 8 when in every other respect (except for firepower) KGV is a Tier 8 ship.

 

 

[G01ngToxicCommand0]

 

I expect the same shells (so penetration, damage etc) and turret traverse as Warspite but more range. Speed does not make slow turret traverse frustrating, tight turning does. Hood is going to have a huge turning circle due to her length, dodging won't be a big thing. Her armour is nothing to sneeze at, especially at the artificially short battle ranges in game; her weakness was to long range fire, while her belt is equivalent in overall protection to Nagato (in fact better due to the way it's angled) and her citadel would be very low, almost completely below the waterline. Her turrets all have excellent arcs of fire, her "friend to survive" will be angling just like every other BB.

 

Very good points there.

[Hans_the_Hawk]

Zerra has uploaded a you tube video stating that HMS Hood will be released as a Premium Tier 7 Fast Battleship. In reality, with the outbreak of the war the refit/conversion of HMS Hood to a fast battleship was canceled.

 

In 1940 however the Hood was given modifications (suppose) to upgrade her to bring her in line with modern capital ships but the job was rushed, incomplete and therefore 'sub-par'

 

Maybe wargaming will give us a version of HMS Hood as she SHOULD have been modified.

 

We all know the Stern deck and Amidships were not fully uparmoured, and was the reason why she blew up. (the forward magazine were much better protected than the after magazines)

 

Zerra seemed very impressed with the Hoods  Anti Aircraft rockets. (The UP mountings) In reality they were not very effective and they were problematic. Attacking pilots could see the rocket barrage coming so simply broke off their attack and avoided them entirely.

 

Any of the Hoods crew on the foredeck had to duck quickly or they would get hit in the face as the ship sailed through its own barrage. The most exposed crew (who were now ducking for cover) were of course the ships AA gunners. This gave any following enemy aircraft a much easier attack run. UP mountings also had a slower reload than AA guns.

 

However, in the game we don't have any crew to worry about and Aircraft don't break off their attack runs just because the pilot can see an AA barrage incoming. Attacking planes just continue their attack run, hit or miss.

 

If this were the case, then the UP mountings (in game) would work how they were envisioned to work, not how they actually worked and this would give HMS Hood the 'KILLER 100 AA' that Zerra described in his video.

 

Also Kalorn, in his talk with Earl Grey about British Battleships suggested that both HMS Hood and HMS Vanguard should (in game) have the Supercharges that their 15 inch guns could have been equipped with but did not have in real life.

 

Wargaming have already given HMS Hood its upgraded engines of 150,000 shaft Horse power.

 

So, if Hood also has:

1)Supercharges for its 15 inch guns,

2)Fully upgraded deck armour,

3)and AA Rockets that work how they SHOULD have worked instead of how they actually worked...........

 

Then HMS Hood would truly be a magnificent Tier 7 ship and worthy of the Moniker, "The Mighty Hood".    I cant wait to play her.   

 

As post script, Kalron also suggested that KGV be a Tier 8 BB and be armed with the 9 x 15 inch guns that it could have been equipped with, and put Duke of York with 10 x 14 inch guns as a Tier 7 premium.

 

(presumably so it could fight Scharnorst like it did in real life.)

 

The KGVs were going to be given 12 x 14 inch guns but the number was dropped to 10 guns to save weight.

 

I would like to see more options for the KGV class for example, a stock ship having 10 x 14 inch guns and having the option of upgrading to either 9 x 15 inch OR 12 x 14 inch guns (with the guns rate of fire being what it was meant to be, not what it actually was in real life.)

 

In reality the quad turrets jammed when run at a high rate of fire so they had to slow them down. Long reload time and only 14 inch guns is why so many people say KGV does not deserve to be Tier 8 when in every other respect (except for firepower) KGV is a Tier 8 ship.

 

 

Nice post, i agree with you on all points. However 

 

"In reality the quad turrets jammed when run at a high rate of fire so they had to slow them down. Long reload time and only 14 inch guns is why so many people say KGV does not deserve to be Tier 8 when in every other respect (except for firepower) KGV is a Tier 8 ship."

 

You use the term "In reality", so no need to have a slow reload and therefore any argument against Tier 8 placement for KGV , because  "in reality" Russian paper ships would have never worked, Gneis wouldn't have 15"s etc etc etc.

 

I'll eat my paper hat if KGV class isn't tier 8

[Webley_Mark]

I'll eat my paper hat if KGV class isn't tier 8

 

Do you want some salt with that?

 

Anyway, King George V isn't the subject!

[Rabid_Turnip]

So stoked to see the Mighty Hood coming...just take my money already!

[Webley_Mark]

[Dazo_2015]

 

Nice post, i agree with you on all points. However 

 

"In reality the quad turrets jammed when run at a high rate of fire so they had to slow them down. Long reload time and only 14 inch guns is why so many people say KGV does not deserve to be Tier 8 when in every other respect (except for firepower) KGV is a Tier 8 ship."

 

You use the term "In reality", so no need to have a slow reload and therefore any argument against Tier 8 placement for KGV , because  "in reality" Russian paper ships would have never worked, Gneis wouldn't have 15"s etc etc etc.

 

I'll eat my paper hat if KGV class isn't tier 8

 

Thanks Hans.

 

So lets have HMS Hood and all the RN BB's in game as they should have been. At their full potential. Anyone know how long before the Hood arrives?

[_Maou_]

 

Thanks Hans.

 

So lets have HMS Hood and all the RN BB's in game as they should have been. At their full potential. Anyone know how long before the Hood arrives?

My assumption is that it will take about a month or two for her to arrive (testing,balancing and etc) so i believe she should be in our hands around the beginning of May

I plan on buying her the first min she arrives haha 

[Webley_Mark]

Anyone know how long before the Hood arrives?

 

Two months. At least.

 

But I bet, we'll be abble to buy her on the 15th of May.

[Listy]

 

Two months. At least.

 

But I bet, we'll be abble to buy her on the 15th of May.

 

Not the 24th of May?

[Webley_Mark]

Not the 24th of May?

 

Well, I would prefer seing her release on the day she was comissioned rather than the day she sunk.

[sharpie65]

 

Well, I would prefer seing her release on the day she was comissioned rather than the day she sunk.

 

Sooner rather than later, but if it's anything like what happened with Graf Spee it could be early June we see Hood as a playable ship.

[Webley_Mark]

Sooner is always better. Always.

 

An speaking of sooner, I bet we'll have the Hood introduced in the 0.6.4 update. Meaning weell have the stats of her soon.

[damo74]

 

I don't think so, the tier 7 will be Admiral, the class of Hood.

I think it's more likely that the Nelson class will be the tech-tree T7.

 

Can't wait to get my hands on the Hood though. Such a beautiful ship.

[shockinhockin]

I agree with the above. Hood was the only ship of the class competed where as there where 2x nelsons constructed that saw service. Would be daft to omit 2 completed battleships for a ship class that didn't exist except for hood

 

Makes perfect sence to have hood as tier 7 prem and the nelson / Rodney as t7 silver line

[piritskenyer]

I think it's more likely that the Nelson class will be the tech-tree T7.

 

Can't wait to get my hands on the Hood though. Such a beautiful ship.

 

T7 BB that is. That would mean that Admiral class can still be the T7 BC

[Webley_Mark]

A branch full of BC. The dream.

 

[BuccaneerBill]

A branch of full BC would certainly be edge of the seat stuff. Always on the edge of being deleted.

[Nightdare]

Great, even more torps in the water

[VC381]

A branch of full BC would certainly be edge of the seat stuff. Always on the edge of being deleted.

 

Not really. The game is so unrealistic in the way it represents armour that any big ship, BB or BC, would be the same: show broadside=deleted, angle=safe.

 

Having said that, I think BCs are very cool and would love a full line of them, they would still have a unique feel due to their combination of speed and armament, although the line would be really blurred at the higher tiers (see Amagi, Iowa).

 

Having said THAT, you guys need to stop dreaming about this RN BC line. Realistically, it won't come for years if at all, so save yourselves the disappointment and accept we will be getting a BB line, probably not mixed (except maybe to fill out one of the top tiers) and we maybe, just maybe, might get another premium besides Hood.

 

Going with the one line assumption, G3 (with fictional AA upgrades) would make a possible T9 with Lion as T10 so as not to use two different Lion class proposals.