Reduce the amount of DD's per game

[stoet]

Dear WG,

 

Hope you will read this.

 

Lately im getting games with 12 vs 12 , with 5 DD's per team.

This is just no fun ...

 

Getting 2 or 3 DD's is bareable and playable.

Having 5 DD's per team, means u ALWAYS get spotted, you can't aim because you always have to watch the incl walls of skill(15 shima torps per time).

 

And everytime this happends, chat explodes with people complaining about it.

Noone in the community will mind waiting 10 seconds longer in que to get more balanced teams.

 

Then also we got the Tier differences.

I end up as a T8 cruiser with T10 BB's.

But as a T10 BB i also end up against T8 cruisers.

 

Both options are no fun.

 

As a T10 against T8 it's easy to kill them. with my montana killing a T8 cruiser is just funny... but it's no fun to play. it's to easy.

Tho as a T8 cruiser ( or destroyer ) playing against T10 ships is no fun either. 

Sometimes i end up playing my own tech tree ships just 2 tiers higher, and thats alot of difference in dammage, HP and firing range.

 

Agains... Noone will bother to wait an extra 20 second in que for more balanced teams. 

Simply make the Tier differences only +1 instead of +2.

 

Truely hope you will read this WG.

I know alot of the community thinks like this, and i hope you guys will do something with this.

 

Kind regards,

 

Stoet.

 

[LilJumpa]

They are working on it. Read the patchnotes.

[ColonelPete]

2-3 DDs barely playable?

 

Are you from Sail Straight Inc.?

Better move to WASD Enterprise, then even 12 DDs are no problem.

[JozaVrabac]

Crusier players have to go against 5+bb's and they don't conplain, so don't you!!!! 

 

[JozaVrabac]

They are working on it. Read the patchnotes.

 

Ahhhh, they spoilng us agin: 

[AgarwaenME]

And this is the sort of utter.. *insert whatever 5 letter word you want", that WG is catering to.

OP, you're a parody of what's worst in the wows playerbase.

[ajb13]

Oh damn, sarcasm detector is on the blink, can someone help me out here?  Is this guy for real?

[stoet]

Crusier players have to go against 5+bb's and they don't conplain, so don't you!!!! 

 

im not complaining as a BB, it's for all classes. 

2-3 DD's per game is good.

having 5 is just .... insane. no matter what class u are playing.

As a cruiser u can do something against a BB. but 5 BB's per team if more fair as having 5 DD's.

2-3 DDs barely playable?

 

Are you from Sail Straight Inc.?

Better move to WASD Enterprise, then even 12 DDs are no problem.

 

you sir, need to read before u reply  

 

Oh damn, sarcasm detector is on the blink, can someone help me out here?  Is this guy for real?

 

yes.... you love the games playing with 5 DD's per team ? getting a wall of torpedo's all the time.

it's just no fun to play.

 

They are working on it. Read the patchnotes.

 

patch notes are not saying anything about reducing the amount of DD's per team ? 

atleast i can't find anything about this.

if you could copy/paste me the info that would be cool  

[Elenortirion]

there is eally only one response I can give to this thread:

 

patch notes are not saying anything about reducing the amount of DD's per team ? 

 

atleast i can't find anything about this.

 

if you could copy/paste me the info that would be cool  

 

he is refferign to stealth fire removal which is likely to kill off whatever DD population is left out there 

[Migulaitor]

1 A BB can delete a cruiser every 30 seconds with a reaction time lower than 10 seconds, a DD can delete somebody every 2 minutes if he sail in a line for a lot of time or get amushed (outplayed, deserve to pay) 

2  Also when you have 5 DDs per side almost half of them die in the first  5 minutes support yours so is the enemy DDs the ones who die.

3 

Having 5 DD's per team, means u ALWAYS get spotted, you can't aim because you always have to watch the incl walls of skill(15 shima torps per time).

 

Not always spotted, just follow your dds, they screen so you are not spotted and you dont take torps. BTW, you can not aim because a torp wall eery 2 minutes? Wow, maybe you are shaking after it, must be hard.

4 Git Gud (Especial comment for BBs complaining)

[ColonelPete]

 

you sir, need to read before u reply

 

I cannot change what you wrote.

If you meant someting else, you should try to rephrase your words.

[ajb13]

I'm afraid you're just going to have to wait a little longer, these things do take time you know. But with each patch they release we're moving closer towards the 12 BB Vs 12 BB nirvana that so many players are hoping to achieve, so just be patient and you will be rewarded.

[mtm78]

Dear WG,

 

Hope you will read this.

 

Lately im getting games with 12 vs 12 , with 5 DD's per team.

This is just no fun ...

 

Getting 2 or 3 DD's is bareable and playable.

Having 5 DD's per team, means u ALWAYS get spotted, you can't aim because you always have to watch the incl walls of skill(15 shima torps per time).

 

And everytime this happends, chat explodes with people complaining about it.

Noone in the community will mind waiting 10 seconds longer in que to get more balanced teams.

 

Then also we got the Tier differences.

I end up as a T8 cruiser with T10 BB's.

But as a T10 BB i also end up against T8 cruisers.

 

Both options are no fun.

 

As a T10 against T8 it's easy to kill them. with my montana killing a T8 cruiser is just funny... but it's no fun to play. it's to easy.

Tho as a T8 cruiser ( or destroyer ) playing against T10 ships is no fun either. 

Sometimes i end up playing my own tech tree ships just 2 tiers higher, and thats alot of difference in dammage, HP and firing range.

 

Agains... Noone will bother to wait an extra 20 second in que for more balanced teams. 

Simply make the Tier differences only +1 instead of +2.

 

Truely hope you will read this WG.

I know alot of the community thinks like this, and i hope you guys will do something with this.

 

Kind regards,

 

Stoet.

 

 

 

** goes to check profile

 

Montana wr 52%

Moskva wr 43%

Gearing wr 43%

 

Yup, clearly BB's are suffering from to many DD's in each battle

 

Let's turn it around OP... Each time I get 5+ BB's per battle, this is just no fun. Two or three might be barable, and might actually FORCE plebs players to learn to teamplay again. 

[stoet]

I'm afraid you're just going to have to wait a little longer, these things do take time you know. But with each patch they release we're moving closer towards the 12 BB Vs 12 BB nirvana that so many players are hoping to achieve, so just be patient and you will be rewarded.

 

im not asking for a 12 vs 12 BB fight.

 

im simply asking 3-4 BB, 5-6 Cruiser. 2-3 DD's.

maybe a CV every once in a while when someone is playing them.

 

but not 5 BB's 5 DD's and 2 cruisers.

thats simply no fun for any ship.

 

1 A BB can delete a cruiser every 30 seconds with a reaction time lower than 10 seconds, a DD can delete somebody every 2 minutes if he sail in a line for a lot of time or get amushed (outplayed, deserve to pay) 

2  Also when you have 5 DDs per side almost half of them die in the first  5 minutes support yours so is the enemy DDs the ones who die.

3 

 

Not always spotted, just follow your dds, they screen so you are not spotted and you dont take torps. BTW, you can not aim because a torp wall eery 2 minutes? Wow, maybe you are shaking after it, must be hard.

4 Git Gud (Especial comment for BBs complaining)

 

i agree a BB (with some luck) can dlete a cruiser quick. tho, you don't always have them in line of sight, or in "decent" firing range( deleting a cruiser on 20km is a little difficult).

yea, half of the DD's dies within a few minutes. because 

1) alot of torps are inc on them and they fail to dodge.

2) they're idiots and go in deep and get radared and killed.

 

going in a smoke screen with 5 DD's per side is dangerous... coz u know what will be coming for you. 

1 wall of torps, and even taking 1 or 2 isn't a problem.

5 DD's just simply means 5x a wall of torps, also means smoke every where. means ships firing out of smoke and loads of torps coming for you.

yes this is from both sides, we can do the same thing, but it not fun to play matches just being in smoke.

 

im not saying im pro.

im not a bad player either.

i get the game mechanics, but with 5 DD's, pressing WASD won't help you. 

 

got a game this evening, had 3x shima and 2x gearring against me, with we had 2x khaba, 1x shima and 1 gearing with us.

 

means the 3x shima will shoot 45 torps into randomness. gearrings could do the same(tho only 2x5) so 10 each.

shima in worst case having 20km. but normaly 12, or 16 if they used to commander skill to boost their 20km torps.(same speed as 12km just a lil less dammage but more range).

 

these torps are just not dodgable by just pressing WASD every one in a while, they;re randomly shot, not always aimed, so changing course won't help if you're just in line of the torps anyway.

 

 

[Comodoro_Allande]

Hmm, let's go the pragmatic solution:

 

-BB's capped, 3 per game

-DD's also capped, 3 or 4 (I have not it clear)

-Then the optional CV...

-...and the rest, cruisers

Also, DD matchmaking mirrored (same amount on each team) and, if possible, avoid the "2 Shimas-Benson vs Gearing-Kebab-Udaloi" thing, thats very, VERY annoying and it usually destroys the game balance 

[mtm78]

these torps are just not dodgable by just pressing WASD every one in a while, they;re randomly shot, not always aimed, so changing course won't help if you're just in line of the torps anyway.

 

So, you only have a semi decent win rate in your poor poor BB is just 'luck' right... You should have an higher one, I mean these game breaking torpedoes are just totally ruining your fun uhm actual expected performance right.

 

im simply asking 3-4 BB, 5-6 Cruiser. 2-3 DD's.

maybe a CV every once in a while when someone is playing them.

 

but not 5 BB's 5 DD's and 2 cruisers.

thats simply no fun for any ship.

 

The number off DD's is a reaction to the many many BB Kevin's, BB Kevin population is over 40%, playing cruisers with that many BB Kevin's isn't really fun and engaging so people pick either a BB to join BB Kevin, or they pick a DD and hope to farm BB Kevin's.

 

Want to change that? Start with asking for a limit on BB Kevin's, not DD's. 

[xXx_Blogis_xXx]

you can ask as much as you want , until for wg all fine with dds nothing will happen

[RUSSIANBlAS]

The OP...

 

Still, we all share the same game 

 

OP only thing i can suggest is to learn and play all classes. Then you'll likely learn to deal with most MM configurations. 

[JozaVrabac]

1 A BB can delete a cruiser every 30 seconds with a reaction time lower than 10 seconds, a DD can delete somebody every 2 minutes if he sail in a line for a lot of time or get amushed (outplayed, deserve to pay) 

2  Also when you have 5 DDs per side almost half of them die in the first  5 minutes support yours so is the enemy DDs the ones who die.

3 

 

Not always spotted, just follow your dds, they screen so you are not spotted and you dont take torps. BTW, you can not aim because a torp wall eery 2 minutes? Wow, maybe you are shaking after it, must be hard.

4 Git Gud (Especial comment for BBs complaining)

 

and its 4+ at beast per team so how you play against them without stealth fire in a crusier if you don't have smoke???  Ilands are none existant cuz you need to get in open water to get in range???

 

pls explain that to me !!! educate me how to play in a crusier against 4+bb's that camp and you don't have stealth fire?

[JozaVrabac]

 

im not asking for a 12 vs 12 BB fight.

 

im simply asking 3-4 BB, 5-6 Cruiser. 2-3 DD's.

maybe a CV every once in a while when someone is playing them.

 

but not 5 BB's 5 DD's and 2 cruisers.

thats simply no fun for any ship.

 

 

i agree a BB (with some luck) can dlete a cruiser quick. tho, you don't always have them in line of sight, or in "decent" firing range( deleting a cruiser on 20km is a little difficult).

yea, half of the DD's dies within a few minutes. because 

1) alot of torps are inc on them and they fail to dodge.

2) they're idiots and go in deep and get radared and killed.

 

going in a smoke screen with 5 DD's per side is dangerous... coz u know what will be coming for you. 

1 wall of torps, and even taking 1 or 2 isn't a problem.

5 DD's just simply means 5x a wall of torps, also means smoke every where. means ships firing out of smoke and loads of torps coming for you.

yes this is from both sides, we can do the same thing, but it not fun to play matches just being in smoke.

 

im not saying im pro.

im not a bad player either.

i get the game mechanics, but with 5 DD's, pressing WASD won't help you. 

 

got a game this evening, had 3x shima and 2x gearring against me, with we had 2x khaba, 1x shima and 1 gearing with us.

 

means the 3x shima will shoot 45 torps into randomness. gearrings could do the same(tho only 2x5) so 10 each.

shima in worst case having 20km. but normaly 12, or 16 if they used to commander skill to boost their 20km torps.(same speed as 12km just a lil less dammage but more range).

 

these torps are just not dodgable by just pressing WASD every one in a while, they;re randomly shot, not always aimed, so changing course won't help if you're just in line of the torps anyway.

 

 

 

[Ubertron_X]

The simple solution is to raise the minimum CA number in any given game from 2 to 4. Alternatively it can also be 0. Lift maximum numbers for BBs and DDs entirely.

 

This way you could take two unliked 5/2/5 battles and create one 4/4/4 (or 3/4/5 or 5/4/3) and one 6/0/6 (or 7/0/5 or 5/0/7) battle.

[Niibler]

* all credit on the bingo card by the original creator who I have no idea who is.

[Capra76]

OP: please go and add up the actual number of DD/BB games played:  http://maplesyrup.sweet.coocan.jp/wows/ranking/20170311/eu_week/average_ship.html

 

Last time I checked the ratio was closer to 2 BB for every 1 DD, because the USN built 175 Iowa class Battleships and only 4 Fletchers, right? 

[ajb13]

* all credit on the bingo card by the original creator who I have no idea who is.

 

​going to need a new card made soon, BBaby has had one of his wishes come true

[Capra76]

 

​going to need a new card made soon, BBaby has had every one of his wishes come true

 

FTFY.

 

Seriously, I think everything on that card has now been granted in one way or another, I wonder what'll be next (smoke firing most likely).